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Spotify Says Apple One Bundle Will Cause 'Irreparable Harm to Developer Community'
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I mean I get that, but doesn’t Amazon have their own devices where they have their services bundled?
Into what? They are a device and services company. Are you saying that because they have a high valuation?
Why should Apple specifically point this out? This isn't replacing anything. 🙄
I think you’ve made quite a leap there.
Another example (if we need another one) of why the entire concept behind the anti-trust/anti-competitive laws are flawed and invites abuse. Companies that can't compete on the field of business based on their merits run crying to Big Brother hoping they can get some preferential treatment. Why is Spotify and Epic Games whining to Big Brother? Because its a lot easier than innovating and providing actual value to consumers. They can't win based on that so they try to sway public opinion and the court of law instead. Sadly, sometimes that works.
We have to remember that every company was once a tiny underdog. Microsoft was accused of being a monopoly, but they were once a tiny company going against IBM. Apple had to go against Microsoft. If the claim that monopoly kills competition is even remotely true, then Apple never should've existed (because of Microsoft) and Microsoft never should've survived (because of IBM). Just look at Internet Explorer, which once dominated 90%+ of the browsers market but now totally dead/forgotten. IBM was once the personification of a monopoly, but when was the last time you heard of them? The whole fiasco of the US vs. Microsoft was as foolish as all the drama today with Epic and Spotify.
So we arrive at the truth: Companies play the "monopoly" and "anti-competitive" card against another company when they can't compete. They can't compete based on the merits of their product so they pull on yours and the judge's heartstrings instead. It's pathetic. Business is supposed to be competitive, fierce, and cut-throat. If ya can't handle that then get a 9-5 job instead.
We have to remember that every company was once a tiny underdog. Microsoft was accused of being a monopoly, but they were once a tiny company going against IBM. Apple had to go against Microsoft. If the claim that monopoly kills competition is even remotely true, then Apple never should've existed (because of Microsoft) and Microsoft never should've survived (because of IBM). Just look at Internet Explorer, which once dominated 90%+ of the browsers market but now totally dead/forgotten. IBM was once the personification of a monopoly, but when was the last time you heard of them? The whole fiasco of the US vs. Microsoft was as foolish as all the drama today with Epic and Spotify.
So we arrive at the truth: Companies play the "monopoly" and "anti-competitive" card against another company when they can't compete. They can't compete based on the merits of their product so they pull on yours and the judge's heartstrings instead. It's pathetic. Business is supposed to be competitive, fierce, and cut-throat. If ya can't handle that then get a 9-5 job instead.
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Also, the cost to enter all these subscriptions is way more than the monthly fee. Can I get all the following on Windows or Android?
iCloud Storage, Apple Music, Apple Arcade, Apple TV+, Apple News+, Fitness+? I can get some, but others (like fitness) I need a watch, which needs an iPhone. So that alone is around $1,000 ENTRY fee then I have the monthly fees.
Why would you assume that? Dude chill out they are keeping the standalone price as $10, as I said before if you want it cheaper, by an annual pass for $100 thats only $8.25
Get real. You're whining about stuff that isn't true and you know it. No one is being forced to subscribe to this.
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Did you read the details about how the savings are calculated?
Savings based on standard monthly pricing for services purchased separately.
Yep. That'll allow each of the six family members to back up their 64gb devices with a few 128gb devices thrown in too or some additional storage.
Family plan with only two or three at 200gb is doable though - especially since music isn't backed up to iCloud
Not trying to take a stance on that accusation, but to all those people saying Spotify doesn’t try hard enough: it offers by far the best ux in its field, which is pretty much the only differentiator nowadays. Both Apple and especially Amazon could learn a lot from them.
In any case, it’s a tough business. I wonder how much there is to it, considering people mentioned that Spotify bundles themselves
In any case, it’s a tough business. I wonder how much there is to it, considering people mentioned that Spotify bundles themselves
Wait. Spotify are angry that consumers have more than one streaming platform to choose from now AND that they can enjoy more competitive pricing?
HOW UNFAIR.
Seriously Spotify, if your product is better and your pricing is competitive, people will use you. That’s how this works.
HOW UNFAIR.
Seriously Spotify, if your product is better and your pricing is competitive, people will use you. That’s how this works.
You bet it is. Notice all of the cryers about Apple’s 30% App Store fee are not saying one thing about Googles App Store fee which coincidentally is 30%. Don’t get it. Waaaaaaaah Apple comes out with something new and it’s going to hurt: insert company or developers name here.
I think Apple is legitimately being anti-competitive based on the actual legal definition, and how lawsuits were raised (and won) in the past. However, investment into “vertical integration” is naturally meant to, intentionally, create conpetitive advantages for yourself vs others, as well as cost-savings advantages.
If you can actually sue a company for successful vertical integration, you’re basically punishing a corporation for successfully investing in itself. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Insane.
If you can actually sue a company for successful vertical integration, you’re basically punishing a corporation for successfully investing in itself. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Insane.
Yeah I just do not understand it. Apple is a target because its Apple and its not fair.
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This is really no different to having the Spotify app on your iPhone. Spotify's app lets you listen to your music via your Spotify subscription, just as Apple Music lets you listen to music via your Apple Music subscription. In this case, Spotify as a service == Apple Music as a service. The Music app on its own is merely a means of listening to your library of songs. If Spotify have an issue with that, then they've completely lost the plot.
"Apple Music" is not installed by default on the iPhone. "Music" is an app that is installed on your iPhone, yes, and it allows you to play music from your own library after having synced it via iTunes/Music app. "Apple Music" as a service is just a part of the Music app, which you can either subscribe to or not.
This is really no different to having the Spotify app on your iPhone. Spotify's app lets you listen to your music via your Spotify subscription, just as Apple Music lets you listen to music via your Apple Music subscription. In this case, Spotify as a service == Apple Music as a service. The Music app on its own is merely a means of listening to your library of songs. If Spotify have an issue with that, then they've completely lost the plot.
Yep, that's the price of selling something on the App Store, and it's what Spotify agreed to when they signed their contract.
Seriously. I’m using 117 of 200GB just on my own and 90% of it is photo and video backups.
This is HILARIOUS!!!!! Spotify's upset because Apple's better, because Apple's innovating and offering something new ALL within their own ecosystem, and Spotify can't compete.
The only real harm is Spotify's reputation of maturity level saying they're being handed their own rear because they're exceedingly incompetent.
God they sound like whiny babies. Epic laid the ground work for this kind of behavior and now other inferior tech companies are following suite.
***PATHETIC***
The only real harm is Spotify's reputation of maturity level saying they're being handed their own rear because they're exceedingly incompetent.
God they sound like whiny babies. Epic laid the ground work for this kind of behavior and now other inferior tech companies are following suite.
***PATHETIC***
I'm using around 100GB myself, and my Mom's using 90GB, and I'm running dangerously close to that 200GB after that third family member, who is thankfully only using around 5GB.
500GB would be MORE than enough for me.
I agree. Costco cannot promote their Kirkland products? Microsoft cannot promote Halo? So its evil for Apple to promote their products?
you don't need to use an Apple One Bundle if you don't want, All of the individual subscriptions, including the new Fitness+ are all available as single services without doing a bundle. I for one am going to already save $10 or more per month with the new bundles for services I already have, plus I get some more for free. Amy not suit every I guess, but the last thing I would call this is "horrible news".