Spotify Says Apple One Bundle Will Cause 'Irreparable Harm to Developer Community'

Spotify needs to fight, let them fight, even if they don’t win, it’s awareness of the conundrum.

I have a better experience with Spotify vs. Apple Music so they will still get the $10 per month. I am not going to spend more money for services I won’t use. Sorry Apple, nice try. Still keeping the $1 iCloud storage.
 
ouimetnick said:
Cry me a river. This is no different than than Amazon Prime.
Why doesn’t Spotify get into the streaming tv business making original content like Apple did a few years ago?

Why doesn’t Spotify create their own news service like Apple did a few years ago?

Why doesn’t Spotify have their own subscription gaming platform like Apple (or Steam)?

Why doesn’t Spotify have a fitness subscription like Apple just came out with?

Maybe if they spent a little less on lawyers and complaining and instead invested that money into branching into other services, they could be a real competitor instead of crying.
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I don't get this mentality. Every corporation should become a mega-corp and just do everything? Should your local mom & pop bookstore start selling groceries and electronics to compete with walmart? Is the american dream to become the sole corporation that sells everything to everyone, everywhere?
 
Fuser55 said:
So silly to compare this to Amazon or the bundles that Spotify offers. It gives a clear competitive advantage to Apple on Apple devices, whereas competitors still have to cough up extra percentage. These comments are just pandering to Apple.
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Apple makes the echo which Apple Music and Spotify is available, so when Amazon bundles, It gives a clear competitive advantage to Amazon on Amazon devices
 
gsmornot said:
Spotify has and always will be in an uphill battle for survival. They offer a great music service but its all they offer. So difficult to compete when all you do is one thing.
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Yep, one trick pony.

Don't worry Spotify, Apple will buy you out one day ;)
 
willyx said:
Spotify cannot match Apple in price with any bundle because they have to pay Apple 30% on top of it. So either they can deploy a service that is 30% better or they're screwed.

Comparisons with Amazon Prime are laughable. Apple One is a first party service with preeminence all over iOS devices in terms of positioning, communication and integration with the ecosystem, apart from the mentioned price advantage.

And let's not start with Apple's "special deals" with Amazon that other developers are not getting.

Spotify is right in their claim and Apple is due for the regulatory hammer.
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Come on, study up on a subject. Spotify does not pay apple 30% on anything but a small (as in really, really small, tiny, fractions) fraction of people who don't get their service on the web. Hint. get a subscription to Spotify on Spotify, download Spotify app on your iPhone, play Spotify all you want (with your 1 license on 1 device at a time) and Spotify pays Apple $0 (that's zilch, nothing , nada, no dinero). Hoy this argument is so nonsensical, I wish people would stop repeating it for the sake of repeating it.
 
TantalizedMind said:
It’s not consumer friendly. Apple Music used to cost me $10 a month which was already higher than I wanted to pay. Now Apple wants me to pay $15 a month just for Apple Music because I wouldn’t be using the other services.

Apple One may make sense for some but for me it’s trash.
This plus the lack of X-Cloud support.... ANDROID is looking better and better each day.

I never everrrrrrr thought about leaving Apple before and here we are.:(
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You can still buy Apple Music for $10 a month or get annual subscription for $99 which is only $8.25 a month
 
Meh.

The flavor du jour is accusing Apple of being a monopoly when other tech companies (Sony, Microsoft, Google, Amazon) all do the same things. At some point all "big tech" will have to be disbanded, just like other big industrial monoliths did at the turn of the last century, not just Apple.

Spotify is much better than Apple Music though. Especially if you use non-Apple smart speakers.
 
futbalguy said:
Guys, this is anticompetitive. All of the tech giants are copying smaller companies products and then bundling them together with their existing products and platforms and selling them super cheap. They are using their domination in one market to enter and crush smaller competitors in another. Then the prices will rise.
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Which is how Spotify should word it if they want to actually make a point.
 
Apple should just start charging itself 30% from the sale of its own apps and packages that people purchase... Then it's even :)
 
Omg. What a bunch of babies! 😂 I cannot believe Spotify is upset that Apple, the maker of the iPhone and iOS, provides services that are tailed to said trademarked device, and they make money. Yes. It’s a business. Spotify, you can easily leave the App Store. Just end your contract. There are options. No company is forcing anyone to do anything. Oh wait, maybe it’s because the 70% profit you’d still make off your app from an iOS device still is the a majority of your income 😂
These companies are ridiculous.
You can also, make and market your own phones. Let’s see how that turns out
 
KidAKidB said:
Amazon Music is hardly a huge player in the music field. Apple Music is #2 and by bundling it Apple is leveraging itself to an unfair advantage.
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So you draw the line between Apple offering their own paid music and video streaming service which is ok, but selling both together at a discount is going too far? That seems like a somewhat arbitrary distinction.

If one wanted to be more clear cut, one could argue that platform owners shouldn’t be allowed to offer paid services.

Or that music and video streaming services shouldn’t be allowed to be offered by the same company (thus prohibiting, eg, Netflix to merge with Spotify). Such laws exist for some business categories and countries, eg, that an accounting firm isn’t allowed to also offer business consulting (or at least not to the same company).
 
willyx said:
Spotify cannot match Apple in price with any bundle because they have to pay Apple 30% on top of it. So either they can deploy a service that is 30% better or they're screwed.
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Spotify doesn’t have to pay anything to Apple if the subscription is made outside AppStore. I suspect that almost everybody does exactly that i.e. pays directly to Spotify.

Sure, it’s a handicap that they can’t advertise this possibility in the app itself.
 
Services bundles like Amazon Prime and Adobe suite are commonplace and bring convenience to customers. Apple One is no different. YouTube Premium and YouTube Music bundle also challenge Spotify in the same way.

So do every companies need to market all their services one by one - say 4.99 for YouTube Premium and 5.99 for YouTube Music - just because Spotify does not want to, or doesn’t have the capital to provide competing services?

If consumers rather buy all their groceries from supermarkets than going store by store in wet market, then that’s how things will go. Spotify can work with Netflix, Dropbox, Gameloft and Headspace to create a bundle to respond - and consumer will compare and consider them.
 
Oh Spotify, shut up. This is a nonsense. Really hope Apple destroys these ridiculous arguments in court and settles this once and for all.
 
jclardy said:
I don't get this mentality. Every corporation should become a mega-corp and just do everything? Should your local mom & pop bookstore start selling groceries and electronics to compete with walmart? Is the american dream to become the sole corporation that sells everything to everyone, everywhere?
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If the company (Spotify in this case) is going to bitch and moan about it, then yes, otherwise shut up, be thankful you have the opportunity to use someone’s platform to make money and get on with life. I do disagree with the App Store being the only way to load apps, and Apple’s in app policies, but just because Apple wants to provide a bundle like amazon does, why does Spotify get upset at Apple but not amazon or google?
 
Maybe they piss*d because even Apple do not use Google Pay in Apple Music on Android App. Common Apple, let's share 30% of revenue, it's easy ;)
 
I agree with Spotify on this, Apple is using its dominant position to control competitors and favor itself to build up the subscriber base (before one of the many countries with anti-trust cases against Apple force action). Reminds me a lot of the standard oil anti-trust case.
 
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