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Spotify Shares Its Vision for In-App Purchases Ahead of EU Regulation
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The law decides what the rules are. Same as all that bending over Apple does for China.
That would be a great way to make the EU look even more power-hungry and overreaching than they already appear to be. For people who don't like people having a lot of overreaching power...they seem to have a lot of overreaching (and seemingly unchecked) power. Someone should step in and keep the EU in check, instead.
I guess it depends on the definition and "rule book" like if it simply would say "they need to allow apps to be downloaded elsewhere" then Apple is not breaking any rule by still charging for that possibility or reviewing such apps
It's only 30% the first year, 15% thereafter. I suspect Apple can make up most of that in new fees for subscription apps across the board.
I suspect it will go in their, not the artists, pocket. Apple could offer higher rates for exclusives and try to get artists to abandon Spotify.
Yay a worse experience for the costumer!
And no easy cancelation of subscription or refund requests. Just what we needed!
By the way, apple will still get 97% of the 30% it already gets.
And no easy cancelation of subscription or refund requests. Just what we needed!
By the way, apple will still get 97% of the 30% it already gets.
Just closed my Spotify account. Don't need this whining in my life.
Apple doesn't need any further compensation for that. Developers pay 99 dollars a year for the Developer Program, which according to Apple includes "all the tools, resources, and support you need to create and deliver software to over a billion customers around the world on Apple platforms"
Apple should stop acting so entitled. Without millions of developers Apple would sell zero products and wouldn't be making tens of billions of dollars a year in profits from hardware sales, app commissions and ad revenue.
They should however NEVER be able to decide what rules to follow outside of their platform or services.
If a payment happens on Spotifys webpage with their own payment service (also outside of Apples control), then why should Apple get a single cent from Spotify for doing so?
Or do you think it's fine for 'Audi' (example) to require a 27% tax (example) just because you are buying 4 new wheels for an Audi from a car dealer outside of Audi?
Of course no.
Disagree. Let's just compare music services here.
- Apple Music - comes pre-installed on the phone, icon on the Home Screen, free trial and subscription sign up in app at the push of one button, uses your Apple ID. Apple keeps 100% of the income.
- Spotify - you need to search and download the app, once downloaded you then need to go to a webpage to then register and sign up, enter payment details, log into the app and then you can use it. Spotify could have the subscription in app but 30% of their income would go to Apple, or they charge more to offset the cost but then Apple gets even more and their product is uncompetitive.
Also, why exactly don't these restrictions apply to the Mac?
Agreed.
lol!!!! No one forces you to play in Apples playground.
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Nobody has ever been forced to develop an app for iOS/iPad OS. Developers chose to develop an iOS app and don't want to play by the established rules.
And why would Apple have to host anything when it comes to 3rd party app stores?
If you install / sideload a 3rd party app store where Spotify can be installed from outside of Apples own App Store, then where does Apple hosts or store anything from this?
If there is a 3rd party app store (which will be allowed in the EU), then it's the 3rd party app store that has to store all apps there and not Apple.
Without Apple the "millions" (really??) of developers would not have Apple customers to buy their software.
Dude, it's a partnership that is based on a belief in mutual benefits. Just like society as a whole.
I bought my phone. I should decide the rules.
Correct. But why should Apple get any money from apps bought from 3rd party app stores with their own payment systems where apps and payments services from them are hosted on their own webpages / servers and not from Apple?
You people seems to totally forget what the whole point of a 3rd party app store is.
Exactly. You should be able to decide if you want to be in the gated community or not
lol…if everyone who thinks that Apple is wrong simply stopped buying iphones I suspect Apple would immediately cave in to customer demand.
The only reason that they continue to get away with it is because people don’t vote with their wallets.
Yep. Absolutely 100% against any form of HOA, and/or letting neighbors decide what I do with my house.
Attaboy! Mother Nature and Father Greed can be proud.
But, didn't Apple launch a 27% tax on alternative payment methods already?
On the contrary, I don't think they (HOA's) should even be legal, nor do I think Apple should be legally allowed to prevent me from doing what I want with my device.
Neither are the government, and therefor neither should have any authority.
Epic themselves proved that 12% for just a ridiculously simple store is a loss. Seriously their most simplest store that didn’t even have wish lists in the beginning is operating at a loss by only taking 12%. So Apple taking more is not a big issue.