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Yet Spotify will still find something about Apple to moan about its like there second service next to music lol
 
Color me surprised that Spotify's vision is that they get to use Apple's App Store and reach for free without paying anything to Apple for it whatsoever.

(Note: that's not to say that there aren't many draconian policies Apple has on the App Store that deserve to be abolished, because there are and they do.)
 
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Apple built the playground but I own it. It should be my rules, not Apple's.
Apple owns the customer relationship and that's ultimately what this battle is about with Spotify - they want to use the platform to reach the customer but not pay Apple anything for it.

That's the beef here.
 
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Spotify better literally put their money where their mouth is, and pay their artists more. I really doubt the 30% “Apple tax”, is what was preventing them for paying their artists, especially since they don’t pay the 30% by not having any in app purchases.

Imagine if Spotify did that... I'd actually root for them.

But I have no illusions anything like this is on the cards. This is about Spotify's bottom line, no one else's.
 
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Apple owns the customer relationship and that's ultimately what this battle is about with Spotify - they want to use the platform to reach the customer but not pay Apple anything for it.

That's the beef here.
Are not they going to use sideloading? In this scenario Apple won't be doing anything. They just won't be involved.
 
I do struggle a bit to understand why Apple thinks this is so important for iOS but not macOS?
But of course less subscriptions and apps and stuff on macOS and less money to be lost, perhaps?
Apple would like to have macOS locked down in a similar way. Unfortunately, that horse has left the stable and it is hard to get it back in. . . Albeit, Apple did create the App Store in order to capture some of that "lost" revenue.
 
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Hey Spotify spend all that extra money to get sideloading but you are not getting a free ride using the greatest platform ever invented. It costs money to keep this the greatest platform for you so you are still going to pay for that privilege. Again a perfect analogy….”I demand Walmart let me use their shelf space to sell my product! I don’t care what overhead expense Walmart has!”….this Spotify Epic nonsense has to stop and the Supreme Court did stop it. Enough already.
In the real world you have a choice in what store you go to & what price you pay unlike iOS
 
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Are not they going to use sideloading? In this scenario Apple won't be doing anything. They just won't be involved.

I think you're going to be sorely disappointed by how Apple implements side-loading
 
so jealous of the EU. it's silly that i can't see prices in app, get charged more for subscribing in the app versus the website, and actually having to go to the website to buy things.

apple is too greedy and ruining the experience of users. they are making it awkward to use certain apps just so they can make more money.
I guess apple is running the experience, but you would never know it from the corporate valuation.
 
Apple doesn't need any further compensation for that. Developers pay 99 dollars a year for the Developer Program, which according to Apple includes "all the tools, resources, and support you need to create and deliver software to over a billion customers around the world on Apple platforms"

Apple should stop acting so entitled. Without millions of developers Apple would sell zero products and wouldn't be making tens of billions of dollars a year in profits from hardware sales, app commissions and ad revenue.

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And the devs won’t be making bucket loads of money as well. Chicken and egg?
 
Apple built the playground; Apple should decide what the rules are.
The playground would be empty without the users and the developers. Kinda like a mall, without the shoppers and the stores.

Also, mac is an open system, with the choice to use the app store, or not. So why not have the same principle apply to iOS?

Also, on iPadOS, iPad is literally using m1 and m2, the same chips inside a Macintosh. So why is the Mac open, but the iPad closed down? Is this about security, or is it more about revenue, or lack thereof?
 
On iOS there is only one App Store so you don’t have a choice hence
Not having a choice that’s why iOS is getting opened up
You do have a choice to buy a product that fits your requirements. iPhones have at least a 2 week return policy so if the device isn’t for you there is a no questions asked return policy. Then buy an android.
 
You do have a choice to buy a product that fits your requirements. iPhones have at least a 2 week return policy so if the device isn’t for you there is a no questions asked return policy. Then buy an android.
Unfortunately for you
Help will always be given by the European Union
 
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“Hey Target if you think I’m paying you for shelf space you’re crazy”…”I demand you give me eye level space and sell my product and charge me nothing for that!”

That is absolutely one of the worst comparisons I have ever witnessed on Macrumors and that says quite a bit.
 
That would be a great way to make the EU look even more power-hungry and overreaching than they already appear to be. For people who don't like people having a lot of overreaching power...they seem to have a lot of overreaching (and seemingly unchecked) power. Someone should step in and keep the EU in check, instead.

You trust Apple with unlimited power rather than a union that is voted in and out regularly?
Tell me you are American without telling me you are American.
 
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And I too, wish the world were this mythical, perfect place where everything worked out. But it's not. Never has and likely never will be. Life is full of little disappointments.

Apple won't send you free products no matter how much you try to bash consumer rights. Aimlessly defending billion dollar companies to make more is suspiciously strange.
 
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