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I suspect Apple will find other ways to add fees outside of payments, such as hosting, per d/l, etc.

Companies making millions off of the app store shouldn’t expect to get a free ride. Of course, now they can cut prices significantly, oh wait.
Expect the same idiots to complain that Apple is killing Open Source/Freeware on the platforms. "Apple makes adjustments" Then the same idiots crying "Why should I pay for Open Sources crapware!!!". Need evidence. Go back through this forum.
 
Some great benefits for Spotify there to increase their revenue without a cut going to Apple. I don’t see a customer benefit really there. How about a proper integration with HomePod? eg. Allowing users to add a song to a liked playlist with a voice command. Oh yeah and maybe pay the artists more while you are it.
How about allowing users to manage their subscription within the app instead of having to go to the website.
 
Are we going to get articles for every app that does this? It would be on brand for MacRumers, but might I suggest maybe in a week you provide a list of apps that did this and it can be an ever updating list every week/month? Just so you don't spam your own forum with somewhat the same article?
No, just the major players.
 
That's the beauty of this ruling, it's there for those that are big enough to implement it and everybody has the easy, built-in option. Win-win for consumers and developers.
How is this going to help customers? Developers will pocket the difference and Apple will raise prices on devices to make up for the lost revenue. Customers lose.
 
Will we be able to buy audiobooks outside of Spotify without providing them commission and have them host it and play it through Spotify? Or will Spotify demand a cut for this?

My question to Spotify is, can I listen to music on your platform and just pay the artist / publisher of the song and not you?

This. A thousand times this. My kingdom to the tech journalist who asks Spotify’s CEO that question.
 
What, you think creators should actually get paid directly with no interference? Think of Spotify’s investor’s children…



I suspect Apple will find other ways to add fees outside of payments, such as hosting, per d/l, etc.

Companies making millions off of the app store shouldn’t expect to get a free ride. Of course, now they can cut prices significantly, oh wait.
This ruling means Apple can’t anymore, they are enjoined from adding any kind of barriers or fees outside of the App Store.

Unless you mean like charging for dev programs or increasing apple care or something like that instead.
 
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This ruling means Apple can’t anymore, they are enjoined from adding any kind of barriers or fees outside of the App Store.

Unless you mean like charging for dev programs or increasing apple care or something like that instead.
But they can add them for all apps. Which is what I’m worried about - massive greedy companies get a win but everyone else loses.
 
HOLD ON...!!
You're telling me that the reason why to this day the in-app purchases (non) description is completely useless because you can't understand a thing is Apple's fault??
What the....???
Why???

I'm baffled..
 
How is this going to help customers?
For starters:
The Spotify app is now able to conveniently point consumers to the place where they can subscribe.

This definitely helps consumers.
It's a win.

Apple will raise prices on devices to make up for the lost revenue.
Question is: How?
How, without (eventually) losing themselves?

Could they charge higher developer fees or abandon free downloads on the App Store? Or higher prices on devices?
Maybe. Probably. That is only going to foster their reputation as the Greedy company.

Which is what I’m worried about - massive greedy companies get a win but everyone else loses.
Apple's App Store business model in a nutshell:
"Massive greedy company (Apple) charging £££ but everyone else loses."
 
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For starters:
The Spotify app is now able to conveniently point consumers to the place where they can subscribe.

This definitely helps consumers.
Is Spotify going to lower the price to account for the reduction? No.

So consumers don’t really win. Making Apple allow a “Sign up on: Spotify.com” and giving them a commission for helping facilitate a sale would have achieved the same thing without trampling IP rights.
 


Spotify today submitted an app update to Apple that will include information on Spotify plan costs and options to subscribe through weblinks without using the in-app purchase system. Spotify will not need to pay a fee to Apple when customers subscribe to the service using alternate payment methods in the Spotify app.

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In a blog post announcing the changes, Spotify said that yesterday's ruling "delivers the benefits that all consumers deserve around the world," calling it a great day for Spotify users in the United States. Here's what Spotify says consumers will be able to do in the updated Spotify app:
  • Can finally see how much something costs in our app, including pricing details on subscriptions and information about promotions that will save money;
  • Can click a link to purchase the subscription of choice, upgrading from a Free account to one of our Premium plans;
  • Can seamlessly click the link and easily change Premium subscriptions from Individual to a Student, Duo, or Family plan;
  • Can use other payment options beyond just Apple's payment system--we provide a wider range of options on our website; and
  • Going forward, this opens the door to other seamless buying opportunities that will directly benefit creators (think easy-to-purchase audiobooks)
Spotify said that it's "absurd" that it hasn't been able to offer these "basic services" to customers prior to now, and that "meaningful parts of Apple's anticompetitive barriers" have now been addressed, a change that is "long overdue."

According to Spotify, the decision could "unlock real opportunities for creators building their business and sharing their art with fans through Spotify." Publishers will soon be able to sell their audiobooks through the Spotify platform, for example.

Spotify, Epic Games, Patreon, and other app developers are submitting updates to the App Store with external purchase options. Apple has been ordered to allow developers to add links to external purchase options with no fee, "effective immediately."

Article Link: Spotify Submits iOS App Update With Out-of-App Purchase Options
Great news!!
 

If this is true, why is Apple so against link-outs and why are they fighting them so hard?
I suspect for setting precedent.

However, I agree with the poster and that’s a large part of why I think Apple messed up here and should have acquiesced on their own volition years ago.

The big players like Spotify and Netflix and Epic will be fine, but any small developer will soon discover the App Store is actually is a good deal.
 
Is Spotify going to lower the price to account for the reduction? No.
Well, there isn't really a reduction, given how Spotify stopped accepting in-app subscriptions on their iOS app years ago, is there?

Even if there was a reduction from 30% commission to "much less", Spotify can use that revenue to better compete against competing streaming services - at least one of which isn't subject to the same commission structure.
 
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