Good in my opinion. You shouldn’t be allowed to compete in a space like music streaming, have yours baked into your OS so you don’t have to charge yourself a 30% cut while charging your direct competitors 30%.
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Spotify Updates iPhone App With Out-of-App Payment Options in U.S.
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Why? So some clueless, braindead judge can tell them making money is mean and they should give the product away for free?
They absolutely should! This means we'd be able to distribute iOS software elsewhere if we so pleased. This would be an absolute win.
I'd rather they just cut the competitors out all together. Want Spotify? Go buy a Spotify phone.
I've subscribed to and paused or cancelled many subscription services -- newspapers (online and offline), cable TV, internet services, phone service, utilities, streaming services (audio and video), software, etc -- over decades. I've never had a problem with signing up or pausing/cancelling services. And this was all done not using Apple's payment system. Just a simple phone call or visiting the service providers web site was all it took.
Stop trying to make it seem as though doing so is this difficult task that requires jumping through a bunch of hoops.
Given the option of self host and no fees or host it with Apple and pay 30%, they’d take the self host option any day. servers are not that expensive these days, it’d be cheaper for them, like many times cheaper.
GitHub for example, probably handles millions of requests per day. And it’s free.
I find it annoying when companies like Spotify talk about consumer rights when they don't actually care about that at all.
If Apple wants more developers to use its in-app payment, fulfillment, and dispute resolution services then Apple can simply price those services more competitively.
Didn't the EU ask for something similar and they made some nonsense integration? Guess Apple would need to be fined once more to implement it the same way
not great news for consumers to get scammed by IAP.
but you have to wonder if apple wasn’t so stubborn about this and had reduced their cut to maybe 10%, whether they’d be in this situation
but you have to wonder if apple wasn’t so stubborn about this and had reduced their cut to maybe 10%, whether they’d be in this situation
Amazing how Spotify is framing anything as a victory for artists.
How about paying the musicians more eh?
How about paying the musicians more eh?
I would expect to see a verified by Apple logo appear on apps, at a price of course. If you want consumer trust that an app does what it says it does - it has to cost.
No one is going to pay attention so such a logo, or care. I wouldn't.
Github is not free. Some of it is free.
We handle millions of requests/hour. They are not free.
I'm up for that. I just want to build and (persistently) sideload my own apps as well from my Mac.
Now open up to other app stores and allow 3rd party browser engines in the US.
USA legal system putting Apple in place - thumbs up!
EU legal system putting Apple in place - thumbs down!
EU legal system putting Apple in place - thumbs down!
I didn’t say the infrastructure was free. I meant it’s free to use for the most part. GitHub can handle millions of requests per day without charging a penny to the majority of its users.
You’re either implying Apple is poor or dumb or you’re ignorant on hosting costs. Pick one.
I guess Apple could allow Spotify et al to host their own app if they’re worried about their costs, right?
If all 267 million spotify subscribers all used iOS, and all updated, it would be 267,000,000*218mb, for 57,334,000gb of data.
At a consumer rate of $0.085 per gb, it's under $4,000,000. Assuming no app compression, and 100% of subscribers use exactly one iOS device.
Spotify has over 4b in revenue, for comparison.
And which actually pass the 30% savings on to their customers - as opposed to just pocketing it / pass it on to the customer / keeping the pricing the same.
Agreed!
I do this too, on something called ‘the world wide web’ - sometimes known as just ‘the web’ - where each ‘website’ is able to choose its own payment method and pricing!
(adapts the tone of a news item from 1995 explaining what this new fangled web thing is).