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If you call Spotify garbage what would you say about Apple Music? ??
Apple Music could use some work but Spotify is absolutely trash. I only pay for it because of its Tesla integration. The app is awful, the sound quality is worse. Up until recently the play button was actually a shuffle button. They don’t pay artists and management is petty AF as seen here with lack of HomePod support. The list goes on and on.
 
Even with Spotify supporting HomePod it is still useless for me. I have many songs that aren’t on either library (legally obtained and with permission, if anyone asks).

Apple Music has iCloud Music Library where we can upload our own music and it’s in their servers. I can use Siri or any assistant that has Apple Music such as Alexa or Google (which I have) to play my locally uploaded songs.

Spotify lets you sync local songs but you cannot ask an assistant to play for it because it’s not in their servers.
 
Apple sold 2.4 million HomePods in the first quarter of 2021. That's a bit more than a dozen and that's just the US.
And 2.3 million of them thought they were buying a decorative lamp. ? Considering that Siri is completely useless, I guarantee you that HomePod will become yet another one of Apple’s many abandoned/canceled products. It has no future.
 
And 2.3 million of them thought they were buying a decorative lamp. ? Considering that Siri is completely useless, I guarantee you that HomePod will become yet another one of Apple’s many abandoned/canceled products. It has no future.
As the world realizes the steps being taken for/against data privacy, I am betting that marketshare will change. I also think that localized Siri is inevitable and will enable more home automation which is at the core of the Apple paradigm. The Apple TV functions as a Hub and you can stream to it from any iOS device pretty easily. The Spotify Apple brinkmanship will eventually result in more money for both in the end. IMO.
 
And 2.3 million of them thought they were buying a decorative lamp. ? Considering that Siri is completely useless, I guarantee you that HomePod will become yet another one of Apple’s many abandoned/canceled products. It has no future.
So people are buying a $99 speaker by mistake? I guess you're speaking from experience. Just wanted to warn you that AirPods are not suppositories. I hope it's not too late.
 
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It baffles me how many people completely ignore the HomeKit hub feature of the HomePod, especially the Mini.

Sure, you can use Apple TV (the device) as your hub but many people already have smart TVs that either come with Apple TV (the app) or have no interest in having it at all. If those people want to get into HomeKit, the HomePod Mini is a no brainer.

Once you already have the HomePod for it’s smart home uses, you go looking if you can command it to play Spotify, as it would be a nice feature, and find out that it’s not Apple who’s stopping it from existing.
 
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Some of us are invested in HomeKit, and having HomePods spread around the house, vastly improve performance and responsiveness. Therefore it is inconvenient that Spotify is incompatible with HomePods. The switch to Apple Music was a no brainer for me in that regard.
There's that. Too bad Siri doesn't work in my language reliably enough to be worth anything. I can set timers most of the time, that's about it. Ask it to call someone or to play a song and you're soon wishing Siri would understand the command "eat **it and die" and would blow up at command.

What comes to Apple Music, I've trialed it now three times and still can't think of a single reason to switch. Spotify is so much better in everything (except for native Homepod support). Still, if Siri & Homekit actually worked for me I might consider changing, too... or probably not.
 
You really think we should choose an inferior service only to pay artists more ?
Spotify pays what they have to pay , if artists are not happy they should ask their labels.
No of course not, Spotify sucks, don’t pay artists and Rogan. Dump Spotify, demand better
 
No of course not, Spotify sucks, don’t pay artists and Rogan. Dump Spotify, demand better
As soon as Apple Music has something similar as Spotify Connect , more reliable search , collaborative playlists , the ability to sort playlists by added date , an application on Xbox and less bugs , I will consider to switch !
 
As soon as Apple Music has something similar as Spotify Connect , more reliable search , collaborative playlists , the ability to sort playlists by added date , an application on Xbox and less bugs , I will consider to switch !
How is lossless working out for ya?
 
How is lossless working out for ya?
I wouldn’t loose all of the above just for this small difference (if there is any) since anyway I don’t own the right devices to hear it.
Anyway the point is not « this one is good , this one is crap » I’ve been using AM between 2015 and 2020, but IMO Spotify is definitely better.
If you re happy with lossless AM then it’s al good ?
 
As soon as Apple Music has something similar as Spotify Connect , more reliable search , collaborative playlists , the ability to sort playlists by added date , an application on Xbox and less bugs , I will consider to switch !
Will Spotify allow me to save my own music library alongside songs that I’ve downloaded. I have about 30GB of music from my own that I like to have on my iPhone.
 
I’m still waiting for Apple Music support on the Spotify CarThing. Clearly they think it only works one way.
 
When I first got my homepods they worked Just Fine® with Spotify; albeit I had to add to "hey siri" "on spotify", but it Just Worked® just like it STILL does in CarPlay. "Hey Siri, play Jamiroquai Virtual Insanity on spotify," "Now playing Jamiroquai--Virtual Insanity, on Spotify."

This is obviously NOT Spotify "refusing" to add a feature; it's Apple *crushing* competition, and moving to a completely anti-Steve-Jobsian *subscription* model of squeezing ever more money out of consumers.

I've been content to pay the Apple Tax for overpriced hardware for decades, in large part because the company culture was Respect For The Users. Apple Music is proving that credo has been tossed out the window. Reading the AM TOS I also see that Apple can track even your own CD plays and report them to the authorities--you know, just in case you didn't pay full retail price for your own CDs and additional subscription fees to Sony/BMG/WB/and of course AM. F'in'Hellen of Troy! What in gods' names happened to Apple?!? Just EVIL!®
 
When I first got my homepods they worked Just Fine® with Spotify; albeit I had to add to "hey siri" "on spotify", but it Just Worked® just like it STILL does in CarPlay. "Hey Siri, play Jamiroquai Virtual Insanity on spotify," "Now playing Jamiroquai--Virtual Insanity, on Spotify."

This is obviously NOT Spotify "refusing" to add a feature; it's Apple *crushing* competition, and moving to a completely anti-Steve-Jobsian *subscription* model of squeezing ever more money out of consumers.

I've been content to pay the Apple Tax for overpriced hardware for decades, in large part because the company culture was Respect For The Users. Apple Music is proving that credo has been tossed out the window. Reading the AM TOS I also see that Apple can track even your own CD plays and report them to the authorities--you know, just in case you didn't pay full retail price for your own CDs and additional subscription fees to Sony/BMG/WB/and of course AM. F'in'Hellen of Troy! What in gods' names happened to Apple?!? Just EVIL!®
Really doubt Apple cares about your own or pirated music in your library, amongst millions of users. It’ll cost them more to actually go after you legally lol. Analogous to Microsoft not going after individual users for a pirated version of Office, but it will go after businesses. I don’t know what the point you’re trying making there. If you bought the CD regardless if it was on full price or on sale, it wouldn’t matter to Apple lol

I had the HomePod since it debuted in 2019. Not once was I able to ask it to play a song from Spotify. The HomePod has no access to your Spotify account. On iOS and CarPlay, Siri is able to do it because guess what, the app is installed on the device. It can pull it up. With HomePod you can’t install the app on it.

Deezer and Pandora has added native support for it. That’s not anticompetitive. Why can’t Spotify or YouTube Music? We don’t know. If those two can do it, why can’t they?
 
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Way to COMPLETELY misread and cast untrue aspersions. Welcome to the non-4chan side of the Internet.

The POINT was: Apple integrated Spotify just fine into Hey Siri, but when Apple Music came out, Apple quietly removed the ability to say "on spotify" as a way to coerce us into "switching". They also removed the ability to even play music from our own purchased CDs ripped into iTunes (now "Music"). I'm pretty sure that's a violation of anti-trust sentiment, if not law. This makes Apple EVIL.
 
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Way to COMPLETELY misread and cast untrue aspersions. Welcome to the non-4chan side of the Internet.

The POINT was: Apple integrated Spotify just fine into Hey Siri, but when Apple Music came out, Apple quietly removed the ability to say "on spotify" as a way to coerce us into "switching". They also removed the ability to even play music from our own purchased CDs ripped into iTunes (now "Music"). I'm pretty sure that's a violation of anti-trust sentiment, if not law. This makes Apple EVIL.
You have no idea what you’re taking about. The HomePod runs its own os. Apple can’t support the “on Spotify“ out of the box. Spotify needs to add a SiriKit Media Intent on their side. There is a WWDC talk about it.
 
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You have no idea what you’re taking about. The HomePod runs its own os. Apple can’t support the “on Spotify“ out of the box. Spotify needs to add a SiriKit Media Intent on their side. There is a WWDC talk about it.

Apple could add Spotify Connect if they wanted to. Has worked great on my receivers the last decade, as well as on Sonos.
 
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