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This is a good fit, their combined messaging about 5G, improved spectrum profile, and job growth since TMobile merged with MetroPCS is what will sell this merger.

The fact John Legere and Mike Sievert will run the new company, is also a plus. These guys have been a bulldozer in the industry. We can thank them for killing long term contracts, and the more liberal cell policies today.

I currently have Sprint and it will be interesting to see how it goes. One thing I like about T-Mobile is they have 50 gigs per line on their unlimited plans each month. Sprint is 23 gigs, AT&T is 22 gigs, Verizon is 22 gigs. 50 gigs is a heck of a lot more friendly to the consumer.
 
Unfortunately he's also the reason T-Mobile has a "one size fits all" plan which is just as expensive as most other carriers. I bought into T-Mobile early(ish) on when they still had several pricing plans and it was good. For my cellular use, $80 per month for one line is too expensive. I just don't use the cell network that much. Virtually all of my data use is over WiFi (my own or my employer's) which never touches T-Mobile's network, and I use less than 50 minutes of voice per month. One size fits all is not a good fit for me, but I'll be damned if I'll ever pay Verizon another penny (long story) and AT&T's mobile plans are just as expensive if not more than T-Mobile's.

Except for the fact that TMobile's just as expensive as the other carriers because the other carriers have greatly LOWERED their pricing to be competitive with TMobile! It wasn't until TM started doing their UN-carrier cheap pricing plans that ATT and Verizon felt the heat and lowered theirs. Now, all the carriers have bundled "extras" like HBO or Netflix or some music service, etc., and something that resembles the other frills that TM offers.

I'm with ATT (main phone) and TM (spare) but I still say TM has the best value.
[doublepost=1525034423][/doublepost]So what happens to all the Sprint customers and their CDMA phones? I assume they won't operate on the New T-Mobile network...
 
Never going to happen.

The thing most people don't realize is what T-Mobile and Sprint are in this country.

90% of Americans living close to or below the poverty level use T-Mobile, Sprint, or one of their MVNO carriers that operate on their network. The two carriers and their MVNOs make up 14 of the top 18 MVNO carriers, all which would be at risk if the two merged.

If the carriers were to merge, it could potentially turn 14 carriers into one. So those who say it doesn't eliminate competition don't understand the reality of the situation.

It can't happen. If it does, it'll be the end of wireless competitive pricing in America as we know it. Every time carriers try to merge, they promise jobs, more competition, and better coverage. My question to TMO is this, what happened to their last several times they came promising coverage to Rural America? It's complete garbage when a wireless company's CEO comes on and begs for public support by promising bringing rural coverage to America. It hasn't happened in 25 years of promises and 25 years of mergers. It's not going to happen now.

Want to see choice, competition, and technological progress end in America? Support this merger.
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I guess a sucker is born every day. Every merger in US history has been sold by CEOs saying expedited technology adoption and rural coverage will happen if the merger is approved. If you buy into this then I have some beachfront property in Idaho to sell you. This has been the sell every time. And has never happened in the history of US wireless carrier mergers.

Sooo... you’re saying every merger ever has always made things worse throughout history?

Thats a.... bold statement
 
I agree, many idiots believe the ATT\VZW marketing that they have vastly superior coverage. For many they do. For some they don't.
Same as many idiots believe the misleading T-Mobile marketing with all goodies to retain their defrauded customers and low price with hidden problems such as poor or no signals within certain areas in the cities or in buildings, etc. I left T-Mobile regardless their excellent goodies and low price due to poor coverages between cities while traveling and poor signals in buildings. I am with Verizon now and gladly do not have any issues while I was T-Mobile while traveling and in buildings including elevators, restroom in buildings and basements. Lower price with poor coverages at rural areas, some areas within the metropolitan cities/zip codes and poor to no signals in buildings are not worth the low price. You get what you pay for. Fortunate for me and those who can have Verizon with the best coverage in and out buildings and widest areas in the US. It is not marketing like T-Mobile but it is a fact.
It is true, in general, T-Mobile customers are budget sensitive or limited purchasing power, which are T-Mobile market target. Look around what kind of t-Mobile customers are. Face the fact and truth.
 
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Why do I have this bad feeling that I'm going to loose my grandfathered unlimited data plan and I'll end up playing more when all is said and done.
 
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But even still, a CDMA based network merging with a GSM network - how is this expected to go smoothly?

Google is currently able to do this on its Pixel phones with Project Fi. I don't think it is too much of a stretch to believe that Samsung will be able to implement it on its next generation of phones.

That really just leaves Apple. If Intel is truly on the verge of supporting CDMA technology with its modems, then I could see Apple implementing this also. Some of Apple's cellular iPads have the ability to switch between carriers.

This merger may have the side benefit of forcing the implementation of eSIM technology across the cellular industry. This would allow for smartphone manufacturers to offer a single model with would work with any carrier. This would in turn allow people to switch between carriers much easier which would mean more competition of carriers to keep customers.
 
So I'm wondering how this affects Sprint customers ultimately? Do current Sprint customers become Tmobile customers with their current plans grandfathered into Tmobile?
 
...I agree, many idiots believe the ATT\VZW marketing that they have vastly superior coverage. For many they do. For some they don't...
Which “idiots” are you referring to? The ones that are correct? Whether you want to use the adjective vastly is a personal style. But if the “idiots” are correct, what does that make the smart people who are incorrect?
 
You may want to read as written not as you interpret. I didn't say it would be the end of progress, I merely pointed out that every prior wireless merger was sold on the fact that technological progress would accelerate and it's never come to fruition.
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The largest operator in the world (the Carlos Slim companies) owns about 6 MVNOs that operate on Sprint and T-Mobile. Are you saying that Carlos Slim owns Sprint and T-Mobile? Hmm, that's news to me. You may want to fact check yourself.
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I love how people here read what they want. Most does not equal all.

So if it's rainy most days in Seattle, do you think it rains every day? Literacy is important and this is why people need education in America. Most men have short hair. That doesn't mean no man has long hair. Welcome to enlightenment!
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You're confusing education and enlightenment with income levels. SPRINT and TMO have far lower credit standards, and their MVNOs have no credit standards.

I agree, many idiots believe the ATT\VZW marketing that they have vastly superior coverage. For many they do. For some they don't.
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But there has been no acceleration in innovation as a result, and there has been zero progress toward bringing coverage to the rural masses, that's for sure.
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That's a DISTANT horizon you're trying to peer over... like 5+ years.. likely 3-4 until there's any real 5G deployment, and probably another 2-3 before iPhone adopts it.



Sprint and T-Mobile have finally reached a merger agreement, which means if approved by regulators, two of the four major carriers in the United States will combine into one entity in an all-stock deal worth billions.

The new combined company will be named T-Mobile and current T-Mobile CEO John Legere will serve as the Chief Executive Officer. Sprint and T-Mobile say the company will be a "force for positive change" in the U.S. wireless, video, and broadband industries, supercharging T-Mobile's Un-carrier strategy and allowing the new company to "lead in the 5G era."

According to the terms of the deal, T-Mobile plans to exchange 9.75 Sprint shares for each T-Mobile share. Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile's parent company, will own 42 percent of the combined company and SoftBank, Sprint's parent company, will own 27 percent. Deutsche Telekom will have voting rights over 69 percent of the new company and will appoint nine of its 14 directors, while Sprint will appoint four.

T-Mobile CEO John Legere said that the combined company will "create a fierce competitor" that's able to "deliver more for consumers and businesses in the form of lower prices, more innovation, and a second-to-none network experience," while current Sprint CEO Marcelo Claure, who will serve on the board of the new company, said that the merger will make the U.S. a "hotbed for innovation."Along with the faster rollout of 5G technology, Sprint and T-Mobile say the merger will lead to job creation, lower prices for consumers, improved coverage, and "unprecedented network capacity."

The deal between Sprint and T-Mobile still needs to be approved by antitrust regulators in the United States, but if it goes through, the U.S. will have three major carriers rather four. The combined Sprint and T-Mobile company will have nearly 100 million customers, putting it second only to Verizon.

Sprint and T-Mobile are aiming to close the deal "no later" than first half of 2019. More information about the merger can be found in the press release and in a new "All for 5G" website the two companies have created.

Article Link: Sprint and T-Mobile Reach Merger Agreement, Plan for 'World's Best' 5G Network
A merger is usually followed by job lay-off to decrease or eliminate position duplication such as customer service personnel, accounting, etc ,as many many merged company companies. So creating job is almost fake news unless newly created positions which do not exist prior to the merger are created for unlimited period of time, which are rare. All promises by both CEOs should not be believed until they materialize. More customers are definite because Sprint customers become T-Mobile customers. Improved coverage is sure but not much to be able to be equal with Verizon. Sprint coverage is worse than T-Mobile. “unprecedented network capacities” is fake news. There are some precedents network capacities before. Do your research. Lower prices for customers? That is unlikely unless there are some cuts or innovation made to compensate T-Mobile profit margin. No companies want to have low profit margin especially their shareholders. In summary, for all T-Mobile and Sprint customers and employees, do not get too excited about the merger with all good times be true promises. Analyze all facts from business perspective and merger history of other organizations with similar type business situation: the one who takes over trying to maximize their position with the ones who got taken over who merged, which is usually weak on their business position. What are impacts to competition word and customers?
 
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You may want to read as written not as you interpret. I didn't say it would be the end of progress, I merely pointed out that every prior wireless merger was sold on the fact that technological progress would accelerate and it's never come to fruition.
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"Want to see choice, competition, and technological progress end in America? Support this merger." That's the quote that is over the edge.
 
I don’t understand this. There seems to be millions of ppl willing to shell out $40-$50 a month to finance a phone for the rest of their life. That to me is crazy.
What’s crazy to me is that people think the carrier financing is a scheme or you’re getting conned out of more money. You’re not. It’s simple math. You actually pay less than you were when they were still doing the two year contracts. Plus, if you know how to game the system, you can actually end up paying far less than contract price or full price for most of the phones.

I guess for the people upgrading after two years, it doesn’t really help them. For those of us that upgrade every year, it is totally worth it.
 
Never going to happen.

The thing most people don't realize is what T-Mobile and Sprint are in this country.

90% of Americans living close to or below the poverty level use T-Mobile, Sprint, or one of their MVNO carriers that operate on their network. The two carriers and their MVNOs make up 14 of the top 18 MVNO carriers, all which would be at risk if the two merged.

If the carriers were to merge, it could potentially turn 14 carriers into one. So those who say it doesn't eliminate competition don't understand the reality of the situation.

It can't happen. If it does, it'll be the end of wireless competitive pricing in America as we know it. Every time carriers try to merge, they promise jobs, more competition, and better coverage. My question to TMO is this, what happened to their last several times they came promising coverage to Rural America? It's complete garbage when a wireless company's CEO comes on and begs for public support by promising bringing rural coverage to America. It hasn't happened in 25 years of promises and 25 years of mergers. It's not going to happen now.

Want to see choice, competition, and technological progress end in America? Support this merger.
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I guess a sucker is born every day. Every merger in US history has been sold by CEOs saying expedited technology adoption and rural coverage will happen if the merger is approved. If you buy into this then I have some beachfront property in Idaho to sell you. This has been the sell every time. And has never happened in the history of US wireless carrier mergers.

Just because it’s been true the last 50 times doesn’t mean it will be true this time.


Does it?
 
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Lol poverty people are only ones using t mobile. GTFO. That is the most ridiculous thing I have read.

The people in poverty really love T-mobile’s unlimited calls, texts, and data everywhere in North America (and basically free roaming everywhere else) because they obviously travel so much /s. Seriously, that guy’s claim about 90% of people in poverty using T-mobile is so out of date
 
Every merger has been pushed by these promises, and nothing has really changed for coverage, rural america, or technology adoption as a result of any merger in the last 25 years.
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Thankfully SOMEONE gets it!

You keep talking about coverage in rural America, and the history of broken promises. Well, I live in a *very* rural area in the northern Rockies, and I've had excellent Verizon coverage for *years*, and a couple of years ago AT&T caught up. It's T-mobile and Sprint that have never built out their coverage to include us rural folks, although I agree that this merger, if it happens, won't change that. Limiting their coverage to urban centers is exactly why T-mobile has been able to put up the numbers they have the last several years.
 
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Lower prices and job creation! Well golly! I'll think about that while I ride my mule around my forty acres, and while the chicken in my pot cooks.
 
I've had a T-Mobile family plan for about 10 years now. Always been happy with it for the price, had a few no cell-service areas here and there but I've noticed those becoming less and less apparent over the years. I was skeptical about this merger at first but I feel better now that Legere will be in charge.

And no, I'm no sucker. I can pull out of my service at anytime.
 
I just switched to T-Mobile from AT&T earlier this week. So, actually kind of excited to see what positives come from this Sprint merger! But ultimately, the biggest concern I'll always have is just knowing I have coverage when I leave the cities or interstates.
 
t-mobile isn't even a mobile company. Its a bottom feeder finance company trying to sell financing ... to whatever fool happens to walk in their store.

You are describing ALL cellphone companies before T-Mobile decided to go "un-Carrier"! People were paying the "cost" of a phone forever, with lousy contracts and poor customer service. Now, EVERYONE owns their phone, thank you T-Mobile, the USA branch of the German giant, Deutsche Telekom.

Try using a Verizon or Sprint abroad without major paid modifications to your plan, today. Most of Europe, all of North America, S. Korea, Australia, the list is long. Only countries like India, Vietnam, etc., are out of the plan.
 
Google is currently able to do this on its Pixel phones with Project Fi. I don't think it is too much of a stretch to believe that Samsung will be able to implement it on its next generation of phones.

That really just leaves Apple. If Intel is truly on the verge of supporting CDMA technology with its modems, then I could see Apple implementing this also. Some of Apple's cellular iPads have the ability to switch between carriers.

This merger may have the side benefit of forcing the implementation of eSIM technology across the cellular industry. This would allow for smartphone manufacturers to offer a single model with would work with any carrier. This would in turn allow people to switch between carriers much easier which would mean more competition of carriers to keep customers.

There are surely millions of users on Sprint's network with CDMA only phones. Sure it's not really an issue with new phones with CDMA and GSM support but it is for older phone users.

In Europe we have GSM only. I can use my iPhone on any network I want without issue.
 
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Hoping for Apple Wireless in 2019-2020

Oh, and Apple Bank too!
I surely would use Apple bank, it’d be cool if they’d only offer Apple Pay debit cards, which then causes stores to have to accept nfc now. Not doing so would be like not accepting credit cards.
 
I don't expect the federal government to kibosh this merger. Less competition will lead to higher rate plans, unfulfilled promises (based off the video), worse customer services, and MVNOs could dissolve over time. Plenty of other reasons why this is bad too. The "Uncarrier Movement" dies with the merger. Less plan amenities too. Ok, Canada might not have the US' population size, but they have 3 major companies (Bell, Telus, and Rogers) conquer most of the major population densities there. Learn from their problems.
 
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