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Are we sure the MOBILE TO MOBILE is accross all phone networks and not just mobile to mobile on sprint?


Does anyone know this for sure?

I currently have an evo 4G on sprint, lets clear up a few things lol.
The Mobile to Mobile is with ALL mobile service providers.
The Sprint network is CDMA so there is no way to talk and surf the web at the same time . (Unless you are on 4G or Wi-Fi)
Sprint 3G (in my area at least,(ohio)) is very speedy!
A friend and I did a comparison of the 3Gspeeds (he is on Verizon) and my evo 4G killed his Thunderbolt 4G.
Just sayin.
 
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I currently have an evo 4G on sprint, lets clear up a few things lol.
The Mobile to Mobile is with ALL mobile service providers.
The Sprint network is CDMA so there is no way to talk and surf the web at the same time . (Unless you are on 4G or Wi-Fi)
Sprint 3G (in my area at least,(ohio)) is very speedy!
A friend and I did a comparison of the 3Gspeeds (he is on Verizon) and my evo 4G killed his Thunderbolt 4G.
Just sayin.

You got any tricks to upgrade your Evo? I got mine on release day and I'm stuck using it til April... :-/
 
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Ok, I haven't waded through all the comments in this thread, but here is what I found out today based on extensive conversations with reps from Sprint and Verizon:

My plan currently is the lowest-tier family plan on AT&T, like 700 minutes, bundled with an iPhone 4 with unlimited data, a dumbphone for my wife with no data, and we each have $5 200/mo texting plans. I have a FAN account through my school which saves 15%, and my total bill before taxes, fees, and any other charges is $96.49.

Sprint said to get this same plan we would each need to have individual plans. No family plan if one person doesn't have data. So that's something to think about. My discount would be 10% on Sprint, only on the plan itself, not the add-ons, and that seems to be the way all the networks operate when it comes to the discounts. So I would have $69.99 - $7 = $62.99 for the plan, $10 add-on (STUPID) fee for having a smart phone (how can they get away with advertising this plan as $69??). So my total is $72.99. Then my wife would have to get her own plan on a dumb phone. The basic talk plan, minus the 10% is $35.99. Then add $5 for the cheapest texting plan. Total for both of us is $113.98—quite a bit more than AT&T.

Verizon said to get this same plan we could have a family plan. The cheapest family share plan is $69.98. That section of the bill, on Verizon, gets an 18% student discount, bringing it down to $57.38, and that includes the two lines. Then we add a $30 data plan, and two $5 texting plans, which include 250 texts. Grand total, $97.38. Not too bad.

So for me, a 64GB iPhone 4S and dumbphone for the wife (who doesn't really care about iPhones and data plans), it breaks down like this:

AT&T: $106 (not sure if you could get this now since they eliminated the cheaper texting plans)
Sprint: $113.98
Verizon: $97.38

Benefits of AT&T: potentially faster 3.5G speed on the 4S, can keep unlimited since I'm grandfathered, rollover (not that I need that either)

Downsides of AT&T: crappy network, customer service is lacking

Benefits of Sprint: price includes unlimited messaging for my line (but I don't need it) and my wife would get 300 texts, 100 more than AT&T and 50 more than Verizon, nights start at 7pm, free mobile to mobile on any network (don't use the phone enough for this to matter a lot)

Downsides of Sprint: price, network not as robust as Verizon in many areas, no data and voice at same time, CDMA 3G is slower

Benefits of Verizon: we'd each get 50 more texts per month than we have now, and my wife often goes over by 15-20, so that could be useful, and it's arguably the best network around

Downsides of Verizon: no voice and data at the same time, CDMA 3G is slower, no rollover or friend/family "circle" at the lower minute tier

So which one am I going with? Probably Verizon, unless Sprint can pull out a price change on Friday. But Verizon is probably overall the best for what I need: don't use voice a lot, minimal texting, usually use under 1GB of data each month (since I'm often on WIFI at work, school and home). Still trying to convince my wife to get an iPhone, so that might change things if she goes along with it. She loves her iPod Touch and says she doesn't need the data plan. But then she always calls or texts me to look things up. Especially directions. Maybe I should buy her a GPS instead?
 
Yea. Here in ATL, you get Sprint 4G either at the airport and downtown. Both of which everyone avoids like the plague anyway. Go out to the burbs where most of the 6 mil people live, and it drops off to prehistoric speeds.

I was wondering about Sprint's coverage in the ATL area. Honestly, I never did see the whole argument that Sprint is cheaper than the other carriers. I have 450 mins with rollover, unlimited texting with the unlimited mobile to Any mobile calling and the 2g data plan on AT&T.

I do have a discount, which comes off of your base rate plan and the data plan according to my bill. All in all I'm at around 77.49 per month. By the time I got Sprint's 69.99 plan and they added in taxes and fees and their premium data fee....I'd be hitting around 80-90 bucks.

I'd like to have unlimited data but honestly, even after trying to blow it up last month on my phone's data usage, I couldn't even clear 800 MB. Data speeds are pretty good. Not LTE good but I can wait for that. I don't have too many dropped calls, admittedly because I probably don't use the actual phone function enough to care.

I mean even if I didn't have my discount, it would still make things about even between the two. I don't understand the whole hype about Sprint at all.
 
You got any tricks to upgrade you Evo? I got mine on release day and I'm stuck using it til April... :-/

Unfortunately i dont. But i think it is really kind of unprofessional how they ended the premier program and now you have to wait 2 full years to get a new phone.

I would hope that Sprint would have some type of incentive for existing customers wanting to obtain the iPhone. As for now it seems that if we want an iPhone we will have to pay retail price which is generally around the $600-$700 mark.
Boooo! haha

Something else is, if you have multiple lines on your account you may be able to take someone else's upgrade that is on your plan. Or even someone on a different plan that is willing to upgrade and then sell you the phone when they buy it for $50-$100 more. Just a thought!
 
You got any tricks to upgrade you Evo? I got mine on release day and I'm stuck using it til April... :-/

Well, since there is 11+ lines on my fathers business account, he is allowing to use someone elses two year upgrade to get at at $199! Just to add to that, my personal two year upgrade is in june, so I will be able to purchase the iPhone 5 with that.

Life just got real cool! :cool:
 
Unfortunately i dont. But i think it is really kind of unprofessional how they ended the premier program and now you have to wait 2 full years to get a new phone.

I would hope that Sprint would have some type of incentive for existing customers wanting to obtain the iPhone. As for now it seems that if we want an iPhone we will have to pay retail price which is generally around the $600-$700 mark.
Boooo! haha

Something else is, if you have multiple lines on your account you may be able to take someone else's upgrade that is on your plan. Or even someone on a different plan that is willing to upgrade and then sell you the phone when they buy it for $50-$100 more. Just a thought!

I think I am just going to threaten to cancel my account. I asked today how much it would cost me to just kill my account and they told me 70 bucks... So if I have to cancel and start a new contract, I'll just be spending 270 or so... Beats the 600 for a new one.
 
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What is the total price for the cheapest family plan for 2 lines? I and my wife are currently paying around $148 (w/taxes) with unlimited data on AT&T. Will the total cost on Sprint be cheaper?
 
1. That is not a carry issue to solve. To the carrier they still send 2 SMS's to your phone. Your phone is what figures it out that it is one long message and combines it.

2. SMS does not use data but the standby signal for the phone which is unaffected by voice calls. so yes you can

Thanks. I just tested the combining text messages to a Sprint phone from my at&t iphone, and vice versa, and the messages don't get combined in either direction :(

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BTW, in almost all tests Sprint is slower than verizon. So yes, you're unlimited, but unlimited (up to 5gb I think) at a slower speed.

Friend on Virgin (Sprints low cost service) did a test with iphone 3GS and his virgin android, iphone was 6x faster downloading a podcast, however while web surfing the different wasn't as dramatic.
 
Will the Sprint iPhone be jailbreak-able right out of the box?

I would love to be able to jailbreak it.

Also, is the first 5-10GB of data from tethering a free service or is there a fee for up to that or after?
 
does anyone know if sprint detects tethering much like at&t does and then bills you for it?
 
A good coverage map comparing carriers sourced from actual people, not carriers: http://www.rootmetrics.com/map/

There is an app for that too, you can add to the metrics by installing it, both Android & iPhone. I'm hoping lots more people add to the numbers.
 
I was wondering about Sprint's coverage in the ATL area. Honestly, I never did see the whole argument that Sprint is cheaper than the other carriers. I have 450 mins with rollover, unlimited texting with the unlimited mobile to Any mobile calling and the 2g data plan on AT&T.

I do have a discount, which comes off of your base rate plan and the data plan according to my bill. All in all I'm at around 77.49 per month. By the time I got Sprint's 69.99 plan and they added in taxes and fees and their premium data fee....I'd be hitting around 80-90 bucks.

I'd like to have unlimited data but honestly, even after trying to blow it up last month on my phone's data usage, I couldn't even clear 800 MB. Data speeds are pretty good. Not LTE good but I can wait for that. I don't have too many dropped calls, admittedly because I probably don't use the actual phone function enough to care.

I mean even if I didn't have my discount, it would still make things about even between the two. I don't understand the whole hype about Sprint at all.

I was comparing the cost of wireless service between AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. With Verizon I would only be able to get a discount on the primary account; the data plan would not be able to get a discount. Plus I would have to purchase the data plan separately for two iPhone 4s's.

With Sprint they have a family plan that includes data and the discount would be applied to both the voice and data. I can get the Sprint family plan with land line 1500 minutes, unlimited data (which I was told is capped at 5GB) for $97.49 + $20 = $117.49 (getting a 25% discount). If I wanted to add tethering I would have to pay $29.99/month on Sprint. But with Sprint vs. AT&T and Verizon I can turn the data tether feature on and off at any time.

With AT&T and Verizon I would have to buy $50/each line to get 4GB data plan. With AT&T I would be paying $130/month for 700 shared minutes, 2GB data. With Verizon I would be paying $120/month for 550 shared minutes, 2GB data. The unlimited voice plan with Sprint is very tempting right now as my wife and I share 550 minutes and we have to watch our minute usage closely.

Maybe someone can answer this question for me. I was with Sprint about 8 years ago. At that time their customer service has horrible. It seemed like every month Sprint botched my account by over charging. Fast forward to now. What is the Sprint customer service like now?

I am presently with Verizon and I like the customer service but I am thinking of switching to Sprint due to the lower cost of the service for me when I get my iPhone 4s.
 
You, sir, have just accomplished the impossible.

Sorry, simultaneous voice and data over a 3G CDMA network is technically impossible.
Technically it can be done. It's a handset/radio chip feature called SCDMA. The iPhone doesn't do it (was really hoping it would) and there's maybe 1 Verizon handset that does it (and I don't think that's even out yet).

Are we sure the MOBILE TO MOBILE is accross all phone networks and not just mobile to mobile on sprint?


Does anyone know this for sure?

I believe it is just just mobile to mobile on sprint

4 or 5 year Sprint customer; it's any network. We have 4 users on our account and between 7pm N&W and the any M2M we use <400 minutes per month.

You couldn't actually be more wrong with this information.

AT&T & T-Mobile run an HSPA UMTS 3G network which runs CIRCLES around Verizons and Sprints CDMA/EVDO network.

Sprint, by far, has the slowest 3G out of these 4 carriers. Verizon runs on EVDO RevB, whereas Sprint still runs Rev A.

Verizon doesn't use EVDO Rev. B. No US carrier does. The real world testing I've seen shows Sprint's national average at ~1.1mbps and Verizon at 1.2mbps. ATT was something like 1.8 or 1.9. None of them are dramatically different, and it really depends where you live.

That $10 is only charged if you have a 4G device. iPhone 4 & 4S are both 3G

As has been pointed out, this is wrong. Any smartphone (Android, WinMo, RIM, or now iOS) has this fee.

Benefits of Sprint: price includes unlimited messaging for my line (but I don't need it) and my wife would get 300 texts, 100 more than AT&T and 50 more than Verizon, nights start at 7pm, free mobile to mobile on any network (don't use the phone enough for this to matter a lot)

Downsides of Sprint: price, network not as robust as Verizon in many areas, no data and voice at same time, CDMA 3G is slower

Not sure where you get this300 texts thing, but if you get a family plan capable of supporting the iPhone, she'll get unlimited text and data, too. There's a couple of nice feature phones for texting that I THINK also have free TeleNav.

I think I am just going to threaten to cancel my account. I asked today how much it would cost me to just kill my account and they told me 70 bucks... So if I have to cancel and start a new contract, I'll just be spending 270 or so... Beats the 600 for a new one.

This is somthing I don't get. They need to change the ETF and renewal system to just be a prorated upgrade fee. Start it at $400 and drop it $20/month. You can get a new phone at any time for "new customer price" plus your upgrade fee, and your counter starts again. Or something along those lines. Then you can go online or into a store and it'll just show you/tell you how much that phone is going to cost you right now, no haggling, no retentions, no problems.

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With Sprint they have a family plan that includes data and the discount would be applied to both the voice and data. I can get the Sprint family plan with land line 1500 minutes, unlimited data (which I was told is capped at 5GB) for $97.49 + $20 = $117.49 (getting a 25% discount). If I wanted to add tethering I would have to pay $29.99/month on Sprint. But with Sprint vs. AT&T and Verizon I can turn the data tether feature on and off at any time.
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Maybe someone can answer this question for me. I was with Sprint about 8 years ago. At that time their customer service has horrible. It seemed like every month Sprint botched my account by over charging. Fast forward to now. What is the Sprint customer service like now?

Who told you it's capped? It's not. A few years back (like 4 or 5) there were some reports of "soft caps" where exceeding some limit a couple months in a row would get you a letter asking you to stop using so much data or they'll cancel your account, but I've seen nothing about that for a long time. I've seen reports of people using 20gb+ regularly and with no throttling or cuttoffs.

I've had good luck with Sprint's CS. My advice is to deal ONLY with Sprint Corporate via their online chats or on the phone. DO NOT go to Sprint stores or "authorized dealers". Every one I've been to has been full of slimy lying sales guys. This is probably true of every carrier, but Sprint seems to have a lot of scumbag morons working retail. Their chat reps and telephone reps have been very helpful, though. We're keeping our Sprint service now that they have the iPhone, if that means anything.
 
Who told you it's capped? It's not. A few years back (like 4 or 5) there were some reports of "soft caps" where exceeding some limit a couple months in a row would get you a letter asking you to stop using so much data or they'll cancel your account, but I've seen nothing about that for a long time. I've seen reports of people using 20gb+ regularly and with no throttling or cuttoffs.

I've had good luck with Sprint's CS. My advice is to deal ONLY with Sprint Corporate via their online chats or on the phone. DO NOT go to Sprint stores or "authorized dealers". Every one I've been to has been full of slimy lying sales guys. This is probably true of every carrier, but Sprint seems to have a lot of scumbag morons working retail. Their chat reps and telephone reps have been very helpful, though. We're keeping our Sprint service now that they have the iPhone, if that means anything.

I spoke with a Sprint rep on the phone last night. She told me for the iPhone the data is capped at 5GB. Thanks for the information about Sprint CS. I have been talking to other people and have been getting back positive feedback about the CS.

EDIT: I must have misunderstood the rep last night as today I have read that the 5GB data cap is for tethering.
 
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I think I am just going to threaten to cancel my account. I asked today how much it would cost me to just kill my account and they told me 70 bucks... So if I have to cancel and start a new contract, I'll just be spending 270 or so... Beats the 600 for a new one.

Wouldn't you be able to sign a new two year contract now and get the discounted price of the iPhone? I assumed you could do that and also apply the $75 upgrade credit that you earned for being one year into your contract. I thought the only advantage of waiting until April was to get the full $150 discount on a new phone as opposed to $75 now. I, too bought the EVO last year and am eligible for the full $150 upgrade on 4/1/12.
 
Wouldn't you be able to sign a new two year contract now and get the discounted price of the iPhone? I assumed you could do that and also apply the $75 upgrade credit that you earned for being one year into your contract. I thought the only advantage of waiting until April was to get the full $150 discount on a new phone as opposed to $75 now. I, too bought the EVO last year and am eligible for the full $150 upgrade on 4/1/12.

They've eliminated the $75 upgrade credit.
 
Sorry, simultaneous voice and data over a 3G CDMA network is technically impossible.

That was true(*) about a year ago, but times have changed.

It requires a handset with SVDO (simultaneous Voice and EVDO) support.

The HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon is such a device.

SVDO requires two radio systems. Basically, when you're not using LTE on the Thunderbolt, that side can be used for 3G data at the same time as the other baseband processor is doing 1X for a voice call.

Sprint's new EVO Shift also has an SVDO capable chipset, athough it's unclear if it's enabled. However, if that's the EVO model that the other poster was using, then he could be right about doing voice+3G data.

(*) Of course, using VoiP over EVDO allows that as well. A few years ago, I used a VoIP app so I could talk and surf at the same time on an old Windows Mobile CDMA smartphone.
 
Well I see a lot of people asking question about Sprints unlimited plans.
I have the everything data plan.
450 anytime minutes= This is helpful if you call land lines.
I used a whole 22 minute last month.
DATA= Truly unlimited and they don't throttle or cap users.
FREE MOBILE TO MOBILE= FREE to any mobile phone you call no extra charges.
69.99 + 10.00 for the smart phone fee. 79.99+tax

My question is why ATT and Bid Red cap and throttle users when the iPhone only works off 2G and 3G networks?



Also as far as unlimited DATA why would Sprint charge more for the iPhone as it is only running on2G and 3G networks and not WiMax?
 
Well I see a lot of people asking question about Sprints unlimited plans.
I have the everything data plan.
450 anytime minutes= This is helpful if you call land lines.
I used a whole 22 minute last month.
DATA= Truly unlimited and they don't throttle or cap users.
FREE MOBILE TO MOBILE= FREE to any mobile phone you call no extra charges.
69.99 + 10.00 for the smart phone fee. 79.99+tax

My question is why ATT and Bid Red cap and throttle users when the iPhone only works off 2G and 3G networks?



Also as far as unlimited DATA why would Sprint charge more for the iPhone as it is only running on2G and 3G networks and not WiMax?

Sprint isn't going to charge more, at least according to various press releases and Sprint's web site. Who knows what the future holds.
 
Wouldn't you be able to sign a new two year contract now and get the discounted price of the iPhone? I assumed you could do that and also apply the $75 upgrade credit that you earned for being one year into your contract. I thought the only advantage of waiting until April was to get the full $150 discount on a new phone as opposed to $75 now. I, too bought the EVO last year and am eligible for the full $150 upgrade on 4/1/12.

They killed the 1 year upgrade in their recent changes to their customer service... I think that is B$... things like this should be grandfathered. To have the same offer last month (and for the last 5 months for me) and having it taken away just cause they want to take it away with no warning is bad business... if they gave us any actual warning it would be at least respectable... but the only warning we got was a leaked internal email, the frequent upgrades is one of the reason I stuck with Sprint, I'm very unhappy with these changes actually.
 
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