WOW! I'm an avid iPhone user, but honestly saving $600 a year is no freaking joke! That alone is almost enough to make me switch. Hopefully AT&T will respond. I have always felt the iPhone tax was highway robbery. $149.00 is a heavy charge.
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Sprint Directly Targeting iPhone and AT&T in New Palm Pre Ad
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WOW! I'm an avid iPhone user, but honestly saving $600 a year is no freaking joke! That alone is almost enough to make me switch. Hopefully AT&T will respond. I have always felt the iPhone tax was highway robbery. $149.00 is a heavy charge.
I really wish the other carriers followed Sprint and included Unlimited Texts with their Unlimited Data plans!
Couldn't have said it better myself. We, (those who have a 2 year contract expiring), paid $600 for an iPhone and disregarded cost/value for a smart phone. As an original 2G iPhone owner, I now am a part of the 1 million this past weekend to purchase a 3GS, and another 2 year contract with AT&T.
Sprint isn't going to convince those who got the iPhone early and paid the premium for it to switch on the premise they will be "saving money". Hell, before I switched to an iPhone, I was on the "Friends and Family Sprint Employee" plan. I paid $30 a month for 500 min, unlimited text/data/email/etc. I promise you I don't pay that for an iPhone!
This smells like a load of BS. What the hell are you doing with a phone then? Playing tic-tac-toe for $70/m? You sound like those people who thought the advent of unlimited dialup internet would lead to the destruction of traditional moral values and the last of Sunday family dinners. Lame.
Yes, but do you have an unlimited everything plan? Do you need one? I seriously can't understand how someone would, what with free in-network calling, nights and weekends, and IM and email supplementing SMS. I don't even use my measley 450 minutes/200 messages per month because of those factors.
Too bad I just upgraded yesterday. 
Plus, I found the Pre to be a bit too choppy for my tastes.
Guys, I definitely don't see the iPhone dropping in price btw. Really, think about, ATT gets a "royalty charge" for every iPhone. For every iPhone AT&T, Apple makes about $500-$600. So AT&T sells it to you at $200 / $300 taking them a couple months to make the money back from the sale. Then the next couple months will be maintain networks, maintenance, research and development, and much more to keep them at a standard Apple wants them at. And in the end, they still need to pull a profit to make share holders happy. They need a lot of money to stay in business.
Do I think costs could be a little lower? Yah. I do. Mainly on SMS on the iPhone.
Plus, I found the Pre to be a bit too choppy for my tastes.
Guys, I definitely don't see the iPhone dropping in price btw. Really, think about, ATT gets a "royalty charge" for every iPhone. For every iPhone AT&T, Apple makes about $500-$600. So AT&T sells it to you at $200 / $300 taking them a couple months to make the money back from the sale. Then the next couple months will be maintain networks, maintenance, research and development, and much more to keep them at a standard Apple wants them at. And in the end, they still need to pull a profit to make share holders happy. They need a lot of money to stay in business.
Do I think costs could be a little lower? Yah. I do. Mainly on SMS on the iPhone.
Sprint is advertising ALL OVER apple related sites
Sprint is advertising ALL OVER apple related sites
Ive noticed it Here and Apple Insider
Macnn As well.. WTF
I do have to say this.. I am an AVID apple fanboy and Own ALL three models of the Iphone, But I tried out the Pre and it was absolutely amazing.. I just couldnt see splitting off to Sprint as they Suck eggs
Sprint is advertising ALL OVER apple related sites
Ive noticed it Here and Apple Insider
Macnn As well.. WTF
I do have to say this.. I am an AVID apple fanboy and Own ALL three models of the Iphone, But I tried out the Pre and it was absolutely amazing.. I just couldnt see splitting off to Sprint as they Suck eggs
Too Little, Too Late
The Pre looks to me to be a pretty well-designed and thought out smartphone, though I have yet to touch and play with one. That said, I think it's still destined for failure for the following reasons:
1) Sprint - they have enough issues of their own to cause problems and limit the sales and the appeal of the Pre. (And just how many people currently pay enough per month for their iPhone plan that they'd actually save the $1,200.00 figure touted by Sprint? I know that I certainly wouldn't).
2) Palm is just too late to the game. They generally started the smartphone market, but just as with their original PDAs, they didn't stay in the forefront and got passed rapidly by the other players. Because of this, many of the folks developing applications for their platforms have evaporated and Palm will have a difficult time getting them back. Without all the little apps that make the phone fun, truly useful, and totally customized the way each user wants it to be, Palm won't be able to generate enough momentum to sustain the Pre and make it a successful product.
It's really quite a shame, actually. Choice and new ideas are generally very good things.
Finally, as far as the iPhone not working fully with T-Mobile's 3G network, this is no big deal. With a bit of code tweaking for the transceivers in the iPhone, it could be up and fully functional on that network too. That's how they make it work on the rest of the world's networks. There's only two base requirements: first, it must be a GSM network; and second, it must operate in the four frequency bands covered by the iPhone, which pretty much covers them all.
The Pre looks to me to be a pretty well-designed and thought out smartphone, though I have yet to touch and play with one. That said, I think it's still destined for failure for the following reasons:
1) Sprint - they have enough issues of their own to cause problems and limit the sales and the appeal of the Pre. (And just how many people currently pay enough per month for their iPhone plan that they'd actually save the $1,200.00 figure touted by Sprint? I know that I certainly wouldn't).
2) Palm is just too late to the game. They generally started the smartphone market, but just as with their original PDAs, they didn't stay in the forefront and got passed rapidly by the other players. Because of this, many of the folks developing applications for their platforms have evaporated and Palm will have a difficult time getting them back. Without all the little apps that make the phone fun, truly useful, and totally customized the way each user wants it to be, Palm won't be able to generate enough momentum to sustain the Pre and make it a successful product.
It's really quite a shame, actually. Choice and new ideas are generally very good things.
Finally, as far as the iPhone not working fully with T-Mobile's 3G network, this is no big deal. With a bit of code tweaking for the transceivers in the iPhone, it could be up and fully functional on that network too. That's how they make it work on the rest of the world's networks. There's only two base requirements: first, it must be a GSM network; and second, it must operate in the four frequency bands covered by the iPhone, which pretty much covers them all.
iPhone is more of a hand held computer then a phone. I use it way more for computing then talking.
Huh? I have a landline phone at home, a landline phone in the office (where I spend up to 70 hrs per week) and a dedicated GSM unit in my car. Night and weekend calls are free anyhow, so how could I possibly use more? Why would I deal with this text message crap if there is email? There is just no lower tariff.
No idea what this has to do with moral values or Sunday dinners though. As far as I am concerned, you can stick them...
I find it humorous that other phone companies still think they can compete with the iPhone for what the iPhone does......
The ad says "The Palm Pre does things the iPhone can't". True. The iPhone can't run multiple apps, but it does so much more that the Pre can't......
The Pre can't access the App Store, iTunes Store, sync iTunes movie rental & purchases, connect to your factory "iPod-Ready" dock connector in your vehicle, download a vast library of games, etc. etc.
Apple needs to come out with a counter-ad or commercial showing what is BACKING the iPhone. Sure, when you compare the devices themselves, there are some things the Pre does that the iPhone can't.......BUT it's the innovoations that BACK the iPhone that make it as good as it is (iTunes, App Store, accessory market). THAT is why there is no "real" competitor for the iPhone.
The ad says "The Palm Pre does things the iPhone can't". True. The iPhone can't run multiple apps, but it does so much more that the Pre can't......
The Pre can't access the App Store, iTunes Store, sync iTunes movie rental & purchases, connect to your factory "iPod-Ready" dock connector in your vehicle, download a vast library of games, etc. etc.
Apple needs to come out with a counter-ad or commercial showing what is BACKING the iPhone. Sure, when you compare the devices themselves, there are some things the Pre does that the iPhone can't.......BUT it's the innovoations that BACK the iPhone that make it as good as it is (iTunes, App Store, accessory market). THAT is why there is no "real" competitor for the iPhone.
Fake ad
The ad is either fake or Sprint needs a new agency. The rag & type break in the headline is f***ed. The apple/pre image is a poor photoshop mash up. Until I see this in print, I'm not buying it's real.
The ad is either fake or Sprint needs a new agency. The rag & type break in the headline is f***ed. The apple/pre image is a poor photoshop mash up. Until I see this in print, I'm not buying it's real.
I love my iPhone and until some more carriers come into my city (AT&T is about it) I will be sticking with them. BUT, I hope soon that the iPhone will be available with some other carriers and those carriers come here I just want 3G already!! Supposed to be done this summer. We will see...
I just want 3G already!! Supposed to be done this summer. We will see...
Would have to be the latter. The ad is widely reported on and Sprint has posted it to their FB page.
I burned through 2600+ text messages last month IN ADDITION TO several hundred email (because email does NOT supplant text messaging, nor picture messaging. No really, Apple and AT&T are the only things that believe they don't all exist to this day for a reason. Everyone else knows better) and I could easily use a ton of real unlimited data (as opposed to AT&T's definition of "unlimited") with Orb, MLB and Slingplayer. And that's nothing compared to my son. If AT&T actually offered unlimited everything, I'd sign up tomorrow! That's the only thing I really miss about Sprint..."unlimited" meant unlimited and I could use the apps I wanted to use in a way I found useful.
AT&T is the weak link in the iPhone's ecosystem
Some of you guys are missing the fact that it's AT&T and not Apple that Sprint is targeting here. AT&T is undoubtedly the weak link in the iPhone's ecosystem. And while the savings numbers are padded (though possible) their underlying point is a reasonable one - AT&T's plans are simply nowhere near as good as Sprint's. Sprint's coverage issues are a thing of the past, and their data network is solid.
Some of you guys are missing the fact that it's AT&T and not Apple that Sprint is targeting here. AT&T is undoubtedly the weak link in the iPhone's ecosystem. And while the savings numbers are padded (though possible) their underlying point is a reasonable one - AT&T's plans are simply nowhere near as good as Sprint's. Sprint's coverage issues are a thing of the past, and their data network is solid.
I am an iPhone! 
I still need to go play with a Pre though, to get the firsthand experience, but there is no way I will be switching.
Oh ya, and all those original iPhone owners who's contracts are now up that were supposed to be switching to the Pre in "MASSES" as that Palm executive said.... Ya they all ordered iPhone 3G Ss already!
I still need to go play with a Pre though, to get the firsthand experience, but there is no way I will be switching.
Oh ya, and all those original iPhone owners who's contracts are now up that were supposed to be switching to the Pre in "MASSES" as that Palm executive said.... Ya they all ordered iPhone 3G Ss already!
But it is indeed a phone. How could one not understand why some people would want over 1000 min/m or unlimited texting? How is that far fetched or hard to understand? It was already a couple years ago that mobile phones outnumbered traditional landlines home phones. People here should be happy Sprint offers $99 per year for unlimited EVERYTHING. Why is competition so bad here? The attitude reminds me of North Korea's. How dare Sprint speak out against the glorious iphone in ANY way or form-- fire the nukes at them! Wipe Sprint and others off the planet so ATT can jack the prices up even more-- only then will MR visitors be truly happy!
What do you mean they have the Iphone? Are you suggesting the Iphone works on Sprint? Or am I misunderstanding your post?
I agree with the last guy. I use maybe 200min/month on my phone. I send the occasional text and sometimes I go over 200/mo but that's rare. I mostly use 3G data (Facebook, MR, web browsing, AIM, email, etc). My bill per month is about $85 AFTER taxes. So if I switched to Sprint, I'd have to shell out about an extra $683!
I guess that's what all that fine print on Sprint's ad is for.