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If AT&T was so crap, and Sprint so good why are people leaving Sprint by the millions, meanwhile AT&T keeps adding customers, it just doesn't make sense.
 
while sprint is cheaper, there network coverage is a lot smaller out side of citys, and most people i would say like to use there phone when they travel or go out. i went to the sprint store and played with the palm pre, and i wasnt to impressed, if you ask me, i dont care how much i pay a month i get coverage everywhere, dont have unlimited but i have a 1000 rollover minutes and i txt and use data as much as i want, good luck sprint, but your timing sucks.
 
Telefónica and its subsidiaries (Movistar and O2) have apparently managed to strike a deal with Palm in order to exclusively sell the eagerly-awaited Pre smartphone in the markets where they operate.

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Cannot see this publicity working in Spain, :D or for that matter making Apple very happy!!! (same provider selling iPhone and Pre in UK and Spain!!!) :eek:

Yep, carriers with the iPhone continue to add other popular smartphones. The exclusivity agreement works in their favor, not Apple's, as far as marketing goes.

ATT has also said they want to sell both Pre models.

Another big Pre sales jump should come when it arrives on Verizon.

Between the 3GS, Pre, Omnia II and Pro, HTC Touch 2 and Pro, and the new Android phones (especially with that slick HTC Sense UI), this is a great year for smartphones.
 
Too bad I just upgraded yesterday. :p
Plus, I found the Pre to be a bit too choppy for my tastes.

Guys, I definitely don't see the iPhone dropping in price btw. Really, think about, ATT gets a "royalty charge" for every iPhone. For every iPhone AT&T, Apple makes about $500-$600. So AT&T sells it to you at $200 / $300 taking them a couple months to make the money back from the sale. Then the next couple months will be maintain networks, maintenance, research and development, and much more to keep them at a standard Apple wants them at. And in the end, they still need to pull a profit to make share holders happy. They need a lot of money to stay in business.

Do I think costs could be a little lower? Yah. I do. Mainly on SMS on the iPhone.

Your saying that like the iPhone is the only phone ATT has.
They have other phones and ALOT of them and they were doing just fine before the iPhone came, as Cingular :)
 
Have fun with your CDMA phones when even Verizon is abandoning CDMA within 2 years.

Those numbers are obviously cooked up and you are all eating it up like suckers. Unlimited data is a scam to get you to pay more and it is not even unlimited if you read the fine print. I have yet to break past 300 MB of transfer on my phone because *GASP* I have internet access with a WiFI router at home and I have a full time job during the day which leaves me with very little time to surf on my phone Monday to Friday. I also don't bother using Youtube much on my Phone because, again I have a mac at home with 3 Mbit DSL service.

Unlimited texts are another scam to get you to pay for something that you will never use unless if you are a teenager. If you have a full time job, you will not have time to text a lot.

If any of you have an iPhone without having a full-time job, then you are either filthy rich or a spoiled brat siphoning money off your parents. Everyone else have to work most of the week. :rolleyes:

Not everyone is filthy rich to own an iphone or they are spoiled... There is always people who can find an out of contract iphone for cheap either off the net or from a close person like me :) because my mom got me and iphone with just the usb cable + charger for 150 which I think was a pretty good deal since I saved 300 bucks which would give me about a months worth of service.

Also there are few kids like me (but not sure) that (again not sure if I can say this here) make money by jailbreaking their older cousins friends iphones for money :) hey I'm almost 14 and if I can find a near legit way to make a buck (not like I am selling the jailbreak, they insisted and I am doing it for them, while they can go out) then it aint half bad.

Anyways there is always a medium with everything you buy, you don't have to be rich to get something that is expensive, really.
 
Your saying that like the iPhone is the only phone ATT has.
They have other phones and ALOT of them and they were doing just fine before the iPhone came, as Cingular :)

That may be true, but these other phones are not causing people to switch carriers to AT&T. People switch to AT&T solely for the iPhone or a non-phone reason (a family or coverage reason). "Doing fine" isn't good enough for carriers nowadays. The competition is fierce. They need to attract new customers in order to thrive.
 
Have fun with your CDMA phones when even Verizon is abandoning CDMA within 2 years.

Silly rabbit. LTE is for everyone.:)

LTE has been adopted by Verizon and ATT, making it both a GSM and CDMA standard politically, but neither one technically. Don't forget, an LTE radio isn't compatible with either old technology.

So by adopting LTE, ATT is abandoning GSM radios just as much as Verizon is leaving CDMA. But that's not going to happen for either network for a while.

Both ATT and Verizon are adding LTE to their current networks. They will likely keep GSM and CDMA for another five years... and possibly much more. Most people still get regular dumbphones that don't require high speed data.
 
The thing we should point out about LTE, is that it is more GSM than CDMA is. LTE comes out of the GSM organization. It may not be in phones now, but they will be in 2011-2012. CDMA is totally different - most of the CDMA patents are held by Qualcomm. Sure right now it is still viable today, but sooner or later, people are going to drop it. Qualcomm certainly doesn't have a 4G network going for them.

It is accurate to say that Verizon is dropping CDMA since LTE is based on GSM. CDMA and UMB are rival technologies.

Sprint is committed to Wi-Max - which coincidentally they own a large share of those technologies.

This is a bit far off in the future, but it seems a bit silly to think that Apple would go out of its way to use a different competing chipset for CDMA now, when they are already going to have to change in a few years to support LTE to support AT&T and all the rest of the providers also moving to LTE.
 
When i want a phone who's screen cracks, that overheats and has a 3 hour battery life.. i know which phone to chose!! Until then, i'll stick with my iPhone. :)
 
Agreed. That number is very misleading. I don't know a single person who has or needs an unlimited-everything plan, and my understanding is that the difference is a lot less when you're talking about lower plans.

Well we can compare those plans if you look at it. Sprints Unlimited everything is a 100 a month which I think is a great deal.

Lets look at ATT on the other hand. Losses min plan per month is 450 for 40 a month. Now lets add data that plan is 70 a month. Text messaging can agruble be unlimited as well. Now you are at 90 a month. For 450 mins. I know a lot of people who cross 450 a month so that can be a problem.

But still 90 for the losses plan to match unlimited text and internet to a 100 unlimited everything. So summing this up for most people Sprint still works out to be cheaper over all. May not be 1200 but still quite a bit less than ATT over the same 2 year time span.

Now if you want to compared a 450 min unlimited data/message on Sprint is it s 70 a month. That works out to be $460 over 2 years. sprint is STILL a lot cheaper. ATT is a rip off lets face that.
 
hahaha the picture is kinda funny. sprint knows theyre going down fast. me and my family just dropped them for iPhones, best decision in the world!
 
LOL nope.

Sprints network blows.

The PRE will help Verizon.

Nothing can help sprint, their reputation is to damaged.

I mean you expect at least most of your calls to come through, 99% of your calls going to straight to voice mail is unacceptable. I mean NO bars as soon as you walk into any building? They should put for outside use only on all sprints plans.

Also canceling peoples service because you complained once is just messed up.
 
Looks like I'd get the Everything Data plan, which is the same price as the iPhone plan. OK, I'll save $5 on for my handfull of text messages I use a month. Ooooohhhhhh. $5/mo does not equal $1200. No deal.

Multitasking is highly overrated and misunderstood, IMO.
 
LOL....what? Sprint's network rocks compared to AT&T! I used Sprint for some time before bailing for AT&T and the iPhone and if I had my preference, I'd still be there. Their network was a magnitude faster and when Sprint said "unlimited data" they meant unlimited data, they had much better coverage, people have been saying their reputation sucks for how many years now yet they're still around and my monthly bill was half of what it is with AT&T. The only down side to Sprint was lack of a sim chip meaning you couldn't buy any old phone anywhere, pop in the chip and go. Otherwise, I would be using an iPhone with Sprint right now. Oh...and last I checked, they booted a handful of people off their system for the same reason AT&T booted considerably more people off of their system.

Seriously, do you know anything at all about Sprint?
 
Like has been said often, network coverage depends heavily on region. You cannot take your personal experience with one service in one area and extrapolate that to assume you know anything about the service nationwide. You will be wrong more often than right.
 
LOL....what? Sprint's network rocks compared to AT&T! I used Sprint for some time before bailing for AT&T and the iPhone and if I had my preference, I'd still be there. Their network was a magnitude faster and when Sprint said "unlimited data" they meant unlimited data, they had much better coverage, people have been saying their reputation sucks for how many years now yet they're still around and my monthly bill was half of what it is with AT&T. The only down side to Sprint was lack of a sim chip meaning you couldn't buy any old phone anywhere, pop in the chip and go. Otherwise, I would be using an iPhone with Sprint right now. Oh...and last I checked, they booted a handful of people off their system for the same reason AT&T booted considerably more people off of their system.

Seriously, do you know anything at all about Sprint?

Yea I do. I just wondered if this might do anything to help them at all, especially since the Pre has been hyped as the new iPhone killer.
 
LOL....what? Sprint's network rocks compared to AT&T! I used Sprint for some time before bailing for AT&T and the iPhone and if I had my preference, I'd still be there. Their network was a magnitude faster and when Sprint said "unlimited data" they meant unlimited data, they had much better coverage, people have been saying their reputation sucks for how many years now yet they're still around and my monthly bill was half of what it is with AT&T. The only down side to Sprint was lack of a sim chip meaning you couldn't buy any old phone anywhere, pop in the chip and go. Otherwise, I would be using an iPhone with Sprint right now. Oh...and last I checked, they booted a handful of people off their system for the same reason AT&T booted considerably more people off of their system.

Seriously, do you know anything at all about Sprint?

They don;t have unlimited data anymore like AT&T does. Sprint has a soft cap. They added it to all of their data plans. Go check out some of the Sprint forums to find out about it.
 
LOL....what? Sprint's network rocks compared to AT&T! I used Sprint for some time before bailing for AT&T and the iPhone and if I had my preference, I'd still be there. Their network was a magnitude faster and when Sprint said "unlimited data" they meant unlimited data, they had much better coverage, people have been saying their reputation sucks for how many years now yet they're still around and my monthly bill was half of what it is with AT&T. The only down side to Sprint was lack of a sim chip meaning you couldn't buy any old phone anywhere, pop in the chip and go. Otherwise, I would be using an iPhone with Sprint right now. Oh...and last I checked, they booted a handful of people off their system for the same reason AT&T booted considerably more people off of their system.

Seriously, do you know anything at all about Sprint?


yes I had them for like 3 years before I switched to Cingular (AT&T) never ever going back, almost lost my job because "I never answered my phone". It was not my phone either because I had it replaced 3 times to make sure.

People would also get a message when they called too "Please hold while the subscriber you are calling is located" screw that stuff.

The network is god awful.
 
Service

When I was a Sprint customer, I always had to carry around a huge cell phone tower to get a reception. People always pointed and laughed.
 
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