But why would Apple not list it and not confirm it for myself or Hermes. That’s a pretty important thing when spending so much on a watch.
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SS Graphite == Space Black?
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I understand you are. And I believe the Series 7 has the same coatings as the Series 6 as it doesn't make much sense for Apple to change them.
Anyway, I honestly can't be bothered arguing this anymore as it is going around in circles. I believe Graphite is DLC and until someone does a full materials analysis on it in a laboratory, I won't be dissuaded of that. So if I was in the market for a Graphite Stainless Series 7, I would not be at all worried about the durability of the case material. Your mileage may vary and if you feel differently, more power to you.
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I think for the Hermes collectors, they don't care about stainless steel or ss with special coating. After all it's more the overall "look" of the watch and the panache of the Hermes brand and the style. How could stainless steel look Space Black without a coating?
Speaking of material analysis… graphite must be dlc (diamond like carbon) coated because the graphite in the real world is nothing but carbon. Graphite is the crystalline form of pure carbon and under high pressure it converts to diamond.I understand you are. And I believe the Series 7 has the same coatings as the Series 6 as it doesn't make much sense for Apple to change them.
Anyway, I honestly can't be bothered arguing this anymore as it is going around in circles. I believe Graphite is DLC and until someone does a full materials analysis on it in a laboratory, I won't be dissuaded of that. So if I was in the market for a Graphite Stainless Series 7, I would not be at all worried about the durability of the case material. Your mileage may vary and if you feel differently, more power to you.
There we have it. Graphite is carbon and converts to diamond. From a logical standpoint this is a very good base for Apples marketing people discussing a name for the new SS Watch color.
Sure this is no proof that Series 7 graphite ist still dlc coated, but I’m sure it is.
Can’t they just make a black coating. Not all black coatings are dlc. And if they were using a dlc coating don’t you think they would say it since it adds value to whatever you’re buying. I’m sure some people will buy Hermes for the name alone but honestly most people buying Hermes things do so because of the perceived quality of the object.
Every year we get this confusion because Apple can't get the tech specs right..
Going to write an eMail to Tim Cook, this seems like a great topic to bother him with. 😂
(No way this will reach him, but at least they might forward it to the right people.)
Going to write an eMail to Tim Cook, this seems like a great topic to bother him with. 😂
(No way this will reach him, but at least they might forward it to the right people.)
It is a little silly. I would just like to make a purchase and know what I’m getting. Can’t work just give me my happiness back. I don’t want to return it
I made a little experiment today. On the telephone the Apple specialist told me it is no dlc. I asked him where he got this information from and if he is really sure about it. He said it doesn’t say anything about it in his spec sheet.
Same day I went to the Apple Store to pick up my S7 and asked the dude serving me. He first told me that he studied chemistry and talked and talked about the sapphire screen and how good it is compared to the ionx one. He then explained how hard it is compared to diamonds and so on. After all he started to explained different techniques for dlc coatings. He could not tell me what technique apple is using for the Watch, but he said he is 100% sure it is still dlc coated.
well, there you have it. I know I’m repeating myself but this specialists and other apple clerks just don’t know what is going on in apples holy halls of engineering. And clearly they have no proper informational material. One said yes and one said no. As long as there is no official statement from apple or new updated tech specs you can just go on believing there is no dlc coating. Nobody from us is able to tell you what you want to hear. Only thing we know is that previous generations had dlc coating.
For what it’s worth regarding the original topic of the thread, I ended up ordering the SS Graphite (which arrived today). As you probably have seen by now in the dozens of pictures everyone has been posting, it is way lighter than the SBSS and in certain conditions it looks very similar to the Silver SS. It’s still my favorite color (I considered very briefly the SBTi, and ruled it out immediately after seeing it at the Apple Store), and I’m certainly not getting the Hermes just to get the SBSS.
As someone who has had an S0, S2 and S4 in Silver SS and had pre-ordered a Silver SS S7, I'm loving the Graphite SS I picked up today. A nice mid-ground between the black and silver (who would have thought eh!)
It’s not about the clerk. I understand that some clerks may not know what they are talking about. However, Apple didn’t put it in their spec sheet. So what is one to do? It wouldn’t be difficult for Apple to change the graphite coating to pvd. They did it with the graphite bracelet.
I sent an email to Greg Joswiak (SVP Worldwide Markering) and received a reply from an Apple Watch Product Marketing Manager. He confirmed that the Graphite and Gold casing are both PVD. Only the Hermes SBSS casing is still DLC.
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Na. There's been a couple of occasions I thought I'd marked it only to find out it was that it had marked whatever rubbed up against it. i.e. it had residue of the other surface. A rub with a damp cloth removed the mark each time.
I had a SBSS before and the SB TI seems to be just as robust to me. Mines a S6 SBTI and it is still in mint condition.
Apple's site now lists graphite and gold as PVD, titanium and stainless steel (herrmes) space black as DLC.
After my email to their SVP telling them about the mass confusion online, they finally properly labelled their website