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Does anyone really use windows as they are pictured in the article? I guess I'm still not understanding the benefit versus just having a normal taskbar.
 
Issue is not being able to resize windows easily. That said from a multitasking point of view it at least gives the option to do other tasks. I get why people dislike it but I think it’s something I will use daily to be honest
 
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It’s working perfectly fine on my 11” 2020 pro. Sure you get smaller windows but what did people think would happen?

It’s neat enough but I don’t know why people are upset by it 🤷🏻‍♂️ calling it pure garbage is a little strong to put it lightly
 
Stage manager is great on the Mac for its intended original purpose. To bring a single window mode that was more powerful with multiple windows. It does that well on the Mac.

On the iPad it is a flawed implementation, but it’s also just a first step to bringing windowing to iPadOS. The way I see it, it needs a few things to make it better.

-an expose-like view for open windows in your current workspace.
-resizable dock
-better implementation of resizable windows and moving windows.

I think if they add these things, quit snapping windows when you move them (let you move a window half off-screen like macOS), and just continue to bug fix, it could be a good first step.

These are just my thoughts after using it all summer.
 
I am trying to use it on a Mac and I get the idea, and I think I can use it. However, I'm feeling stupid not being able to figure this out: How do I add an already-running app to the current group I'm in when I cannot see the side area? The side area disappears once I have a window on the left edge of the screen. Do I have to always move the windows right so I can see the side area again and move an app to the current group? My expectation is the side area can appear when the cursor hits the left edge like how the Dock works.
 
The way I see it, it needs a few things to make it better.

-an expose-like view for open windows in your current workspace.
-resizable dock
-better implementation of resizable windows and moving windows.

And traffic light buttons so you can close, minimize, and maximize.

They will do everything to make the iPads Mac-like except allow macOS dualbooting.
 
This was one of my first thoughts when I read all the initial reports of how bad Stage Manager was during the betas.
It’s the over-design aspect that’s the driving force behind the criticism Of Stage Manager because its not the tradition free form way of how multitasking normally works.

Steven Sinofsky is probably laughing his head off watching Apple try to do exactly what they criticized him for trying to achieve nearly a decade ago.
But Apple is staying pact with not converging iPad and the Mac. I said it in one thread… the problem is Stage Manager should have not existed. Apple should have created more predetermined sets of windows similar to how it is on Windows 11 and Magnet on Mac.

SplitView already exist on the iPad… Apple could have just expand it to where a user can place a third or fourth window on screen, I think that would eliminate the criticism.
 
The problem with quality started long before that, and you know it. It started when Apple started prioritizing purple hair over qualifications during the interview process.
I'd love to read your research and stats on how hair color affects one's ability to work.
 
I am trying to use it on a Mac and I get the idea, and I think I can use it. However, I'm feeling stupid not being able to figure this out: How do I add an already-running app to the current group I'm in when I cannot see the side area? The side area disappears once I have a window on the left edge of the screen. Do I have to always move the windows right so I can see the side area again and move an app to the current group? My expectation is the side area can appear when the cursor hits the left edge like how the Dock works.
You can configure it to work that way. At least on the Mac, you can.

Turn this off, then it will only show apps when you move the cursor to the left side of the screen.
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Apple software being bad? What a surprise!!! /s

Coming from android to iPhone was an incredible bad decision. Hardware wise they are top notch but software wise they are 3 years behind android.
I am at the point where I will do without Apple hardware just to get reliable software. Who would have ever thought that Windows > Mac and Android > IOS.
 
Apple now does most of their software development overseas to save on cost... and anyone who has any meaningful experience in software development knows that's a death sentence for quality.
That’s exactly true in my experience. To start with the first hurdle was exaggerated or falsified credentials on a very high number of applicants. Most likely due to the overwhelming demand for skilled workers, and constant turn over due to the good ones always leaving to chase raises.
 
I like it on the iPad, probably because it has a 12.9" screen, but I just cannot get used to it on the Mac. It really seems like a solution looking for a problem.
 
Why Apple won't just bring macOS to the iPad I'll just never know. The iPad hardware is clearly powerful enough to run macOS. There is no reason to run a mobile OS on a tablet with an M1 chip.
It will be another Windows 8 situation. I have tried it and sometimes I miss taps on the small UI elements.
 
Wow!
Just wow.
First, “ it’s because software development at Apple is now overseas so it sucks.”
Then, “it’s those lazy bums doing software development (software development, literally working on a computer all day) that’s the reason for the bugs. If only they were working on that *exact same* computer, but in an office, it would be just absolutely perfect.
Now it’s because they care about “purple hair” whatever that means, instead of actual software development qualifications.
So… which is it?
Or, is it simply a feature that was a good idea, that got rushed out before it was ready. Just like dozens of features before it. Just like dozens of OS updates over the past several decades, made everywhere around the world, by people of all different hair colors, in all sorts of buildings.
I mean, if you've been paying attention, you'd see that Apple's sharp decline in quality that began around 5 years ago parallels their change in hiring practices. This isn't terribly surprising either. Is it difficult to imagine when "best person for the job" is replaced by "which checkboxes does this person tick" creates a decline in quality? That doesn't surprise anyone.
 
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You can configure it to work that way. At least on the Mac, you can.

Turn this off, then it will only show apps when you move the cursor to the left side of the screen.
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I see it now. On the Apple docs it also says 'If you turned off “Recent applications” in Stage Manager settings, the list of apps on the left is hidden. Move the pointer to the left edge of the screen to show it.'

And now my big problem: It does not work on my Macbook Pro 13-inch 2018. Nothing happens when I move the pointer to the left edge. Guess time to figure out now if I turned on one of those weird flags that you can override on the terminal.
 
And now my big problem: It does not work on my Macbook Pro 13-inch 2018. Nothing happens when I move the pointer to the left edge. Guess time to figure out now if I turned on one of those weird flags that you can override on the terminal.
Weird. That's the exact model I have and the setting works for me. I assume cycling Stage Manager off and back on doesn't help?
 
Stage Manager is the solution to a problem that didn't even exist. Makes sense to try and unify the experience across iPadOS & macOS, but it seems like macOS does this pretty well already. A better 'solution' would probably be to just bring the macOS Desktop to iPadOS...

The problem it tries to address is the lack of multi-window support aside from just the Split View. When it isn’t crashing it works pretty well for a touch based multi-window system. It’s definitely an improvement for power users and I like that it’s optional for when I need it. It just needs more adjustability in window sizing and positioning.
 
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