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Also, you can transfer apps between multiple Stage Manager set ups by two finger pressing app icon> options> this desktop.


Very nice.
 
I tried using it on Ventura and made it about twenty seconds before shutting it off again. It doesn't make sense. Maybe on an iPad it would be better? I don't know. Just screams "gimmick" to me.
Likewise, I have 2 external displays, turned it on, got completely confused as to what it was trying to do. Turned it off, came back to it, turned it off again. I'm not sure what its meant to do or help with.
 
Anyone care to guess in which future MacOS and iPadOS versions this feature no one asked for and no one wants will be quietly removed, joining the MacOS widget screen - sorry, dashboard - in the land of 'features that just disappeared'?
 
What exactly is the point of it ?

I don't think there is a point. Just something new to announce with macOS.

I think the bigger point was that the same interface is on both macOS & iPadOS, and if they can unify the experience, it could in turn bring more people from the iPad to the Mac or from the Mac to an iPad. In the most generic way, it's a great idea. But in practice, there's too many cons to the pros on the board.
 
Not to me , it makes the current screen smaller

Why not just use the dock ? Or the usual upwards finger movement for an expose view ?

Looks like a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist
 
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Not to me , it makes the current screen smaller

Why not just use the dock ? Or the usual upwards finger movement for an expose view ?

Looks like a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist
Exactly! Apple's Desktop experience has been pretty good, if not the best among OS'es, for quite a while. Basic finger swipes/gestures and a single click can take you to another Desktop with a number of other apps running, all while you see every app (grouped, even) open all at once. Seems like a win.

Having said that, Stage Manager seems like someone wanted to take that concept as an "idea" and change it on iPadOS, and include it on macOS. It is exactly a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
 
S8 is effectively S7. 14 is effectively 13.
My inside scoop is being alive and awake.

Nobody said they weren't minor updates, with the exception of the 14 Pro.

There are people who have old iPhones that will benefit from the 14.
There are people who have old watches that will benefit from the S8.

Doesn't mean YOU have to upgrade every year.
 
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Nobody said they weren't minor updates, with the exception of the 14 Pro.

There are people who have old iPhones that will benefit from the 14.
There are people who have old watches that will benefit from the S8.

Doesn't mean YOU have to upgrade every year.
So you completely missed the point of the original response.
(Someone mentioned the 'non updates' to AW and iPhone and you asked what updates would we like to see in those. I responded the ones reserved for Ultra and Pro.)
S8 and 14 are forced non updates so there could be advancements with the tiered model structure. That's not how the releases used to go.
The people you mentioned can get effectively the same experience and benefit from the 13 and S7 and could've done it a year ago.
 
I think it may be useful a little bit if they cleared all the bugs and allow more options.
For example, the size of the horizontal area occupied by the small windows should be customizable.
Also, when it is active, the full window should be (optionally) reset to the right part of the panel so that you can maximize an app window without covering the stage manager windows.
At any rate, it is not a breakthrough, I find it marginally useful when I want to look at a video content I am not very interested in by moving it to a small stage manager window. I think that Apple programmers are always asked for "something new" by the management and they came out with this idea, which is fair enough but not outstanding.
 
You're right! It's not! So prioritizing these things and other physical characteristics over actual qualification are patently insane, and unsurprisingly result in lower quality output.
So you’re saying Apple hired people with colored hair because they had colored hair? Don’t be ridiculous.

Stage Manager is a failure due to groupthink and lack of leadership. That’s on management.
 
So you’re saying Apple hired people with colored hair because they had colored hair? Don’t be ridiculous.

Stage Manager is a failure due to groupthink and lack of leadership. That’s on management.
Sorry to tell you, but Apple has an entire page on its website bragging about this, with scores and points for their ridiculousness. I kid you not.
 
The problem with quality started long before that, and you know it. It started when Apple started prioritizing purple hair over qualifications during the interview process.
So first of all the thinly veiled homophobia there is just sad. Do you really have nothing better to do than stereotype folks?

Second of all, just taking the “look” component at face value, it’s clear you don’t work in the tech industry, or at least not in software dev. On the corp side, including software, Apple’s actually substantially more strait laced than a lot, possibly even most, of the industry.

I don’t work for Apple, at my current employer I WFH. I’m working in sweatpants, an ancient basketball jersey with holes in it that I’ve had forever, and bright orange knit socks with a couple holes right now. Super Comfy :) . I’ve in the past worked for some companies that I could have actually worn that into the office, I know quite a few folks at Apple, I guarantee that wouldnt fly at an Apple office.

So basically you’re being both weirdly judgmental and completely wrong at the same time, impressive really
 
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Sorry to tell you, but Apple has an entire page on its website bragging about this, with scores and points for their ridiculousness. I kid you not.
are you talking about https://www.apple.com/diversity/index.html? Because if you are I've gotta ask exactly what you've got a problem with? Oh no, Apple is prioritizing having many perspective at the table to build their products? The horror! :rolleyes:
 
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So first of all the thinly veiled homophobia there is just sad. Do you really have nothing better to do than stereotype folks?

Second of all, just taking the “look” component at face value, it’s clear you don’t work in the tech industry, or at least not in software dev. On the corp side, including software, Apple’s actually substantially more strait laced than a lot, possibly even most, of the industry.

I don’t work for Apple, at my current employer I WFH. I’m working in sweatpants, an ancient basketball jersey with holes in it that I’ve had forever, and bright orange knit socks with a couple holes right now. Super Comfy :) . I’ve in the past worked for some companies that I could have actually worn that into the office, I know quite a few folks at Apple, I guarantee that wouldnt fly at an Apple office.

So basically you’re being both weirdly judgmental and completely wrong at the same time, impressive really
How weird of you to make that association and stereotype people in that way.
 
How weird of you to make that association and stereotype people in that way.
Yeah… no. Your comments are very clearly implied homophobia, don’t try to gaslight your way out of that. Folks like you have been banging on about how diversity will the death of apple for a long time now, and it’s getting old.

I linked to Apple’s page on diversity above and directly asked you a question about it based on your comments. I find it interesting that you chose to reply to me with a gaslighting comment and not address the question.

You made an assertion that Apple has bad policies.

You made an assertion that there was a page that backed you up.

I linked to the page that seems to line up and asked you what exactly you have a problem with. I know you saw it because you reacted with a disagree.

Either answer that or drop the conversation because otherwise you’re clearly discussing in bad faith.
 
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