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The problem with quality started long before that, and you know it. It started when Apple started prioritizing purple hair over qualifications during the interview process.
How you dress and look isn’t an indicator of productivity.

A friend of mine is a heavy pot-smoker and looks like a homeless guy, but he’s so good at coding he works two jobs and makes well into six-figures.
 
Is anyone out there with a successful story using Stage Manager? Please chime in.
Uhm so far it just works for me. I’m trying it out, playing around with apps, resizing and overlapping them. So far so good. The interface is somewhat puzzling, and I’m not convinced this is the way to go for iPadOS, but I have yet to experience the ‘hot mess’ people describe. It’s early days though😅.

PS I’m on a A12Z iPad Pro 12.9
 
I still don't get it, I feel like I'm missing something, installed Ventura today to play around with it. So you can have up to six apps, with 5 sort of backgrounded and the sixth taking stage center and you can resize and move them around the screen. That's it right? Maybe I'm missing the point coming from Windows which has had this for decades. On my MacBook I have Ubar installed which gives me a Windows like taskbar, so I'm kind of baffled what this is for. I'm sure there is a feature or implementation I'm missing.

Also the animations are painfully slow and really bad, not sure if it's because I have an older 2017 Macbook Pro, but it has an i7, Intel Iris graphics and 16gb RAM so I would expect it to function a bit better.
 
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Stage Manager is the solution to a problem that didn't even exist. Makes sense to try and unify the experience across iPadOS & macOS, but it seems like macOS does this pretty well already. A better 'solution' would probably be to just bring the macOS Desktop to iPadOS...
Honestly I kind of like Stage Manager when using my iPad Pro in portrait mode as a tablet. I can see it's utility as a touch UI multitasking manager. However when I connect to the Magic Keyboard it becomes less than desirable. For example when using touch the three dots to render a window menu make some sense. Same with the side ribbon window manager.

When using a mouse to interact with the UI in landscape mode, these features become an annoyance. Having to do two clicks to close a window is just obnoxious and inefficient.

I suspect the answer is a refined Stage Manager for touch mode with a macOS window manager for mouse mode.
 
You know what would improve multitasking? If you can use Siri to summon a miniaturized version of an app that overlays on what you're currently working on. Speaking of which, I think it's crazy you can't say "hey siri, slideover Files" and stuff like that.
 
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I see a lot of people not giving stage manager a chance on MacOS. I have been using it all day today experimenting with different ways to use it and the most efficient way so far is purely as a bit of a sub menu.

I keep different spaces for different types of work or apps. One is for messaging for example. I then have different stages for each of my message apps. What this does is create a cleaner view with no overlapping windows and lets me enlarge each one to the max. Then I have a simple sidebar menu to switch between very quickly. Could I do this with spaces alone? Yeah I could mimic it a bit, but much slower and you can't organize spaces into groups for organization. On top of that you can only have 16 spaces, which I would use more than that.

Looking at stage manager with how I do my workflow I am finding great use from it. Hope others can find a use in their own way too.
 
SM was confusing to me as well until I watched this video explaining it in detail. I am going to use it now to better organize my open apps:
 
It's confusing at first. But, close all apps, then open stage manager, then open apps you want to use together. Then it becomes great.
 
It’s scary to imagine Apple much worse than they are right now, but I feel like I’ve been saying that for 4-5 years now. Really does feel like we’re moving into crisis mode in terms of Apple’s identity. They don’t have nearly as much high ground to stand on anymore in terms of their overall product quality; the software is abysmal across the lineup, with glaring dumpster fire failures like Stage Manager and countless other experience-deterring bugs and design lapses. And while the hardware in many ways still is best in class, I wouldn’t say it’s what it used to be, and it’s wildly hobbled by the software experience that renders the need to upgrade hardware pointless as the software runs as bad if not worse on newer devices.

Without a product-focused leader keeping an eye on the lineup and direction, Apple will continue to go downhill as a tech company. Their stock may continue to perform well, and I’m sure they’ll continue to be absurdly profitable, but you can easily smell the rot in the air in Tim Cook’s Apple at this point.
 
I’m the opposite of surprised.

This company desperately needs to stop arbitrarily changing things and reinventing bad versions of existing concepts that already serve needs, and get very busy optimizing and refining what’s already there (but is half-functional or outright broken).

iPhone success has been like a plague to the Mac.

But it’s not just Apple.

The computer industry is an absolute disaster. Most, if not every piece, of tech doesn’t work consistently or well enough to justify relying on it, but we have no choice other than to keep using one broken thing or another.

It’s utterly insane that most people refuse to acknowledge the state of things; reacting with “this is fine”.
 
Honestly I kind of like Stage Manager when using my iPad Pro in portrait mode as a tablet. I can see it's utility as a touch UI multitasking manager. However when I connect to the Magic Keyboard it becomes less than desirable. For example when using touch the three dots to render a window menu make some sense. Same with the side ribbon window manager.

When using a mouse to interact with the UI in landscape mode, these features become an annoyance. Having to do two clicks to close a window is just obnoxious and inefficient.

I suspect the answer is a refined Stage Manager for touch mode with a macOS window manager for mouse mode.
That’s what seems to have sucked us in all Summer. It LOOKS like it should be cool. But I’m practice, I’m doing more than I need to. It’s easier for me to just swipe left or right a few times, or even swipe up and then click (once) on the desktop/full screen window I want. I’m most thankful there an option to turn it off.
 
I’m the opposite of surprised.

This company desperately needs to stop arbitrarily changing things and reinventing bad versions of existing concepts that already serve needs, and get very busy optimizing and refining what’s already there (but is half-functional or outright broken).

I feel like this would be more easily achieved if Apple hadn't committed itself to "new OS every year", especially when it comes to macOS, the OS that needs the least amount of yearly overhaul. Sporadically-released updates to address known issues, optimize functionality, and sometimes introduce new features when they are perfected would be preferred to "new OS with cool new features!" every year on the dot. But "shiny new features every year" sells better than "practical updates and fixes occasionally".
 
There was a video of Steve Jobs in mid-90s talking about how OS7 was good at first but they kept adding technology to it that made it heavier and resembled it to a helicopter with added weight on it and now it cant fly correct.

Apple today is becoming the Microsoft of 1998. They concentrate more on the splashy marketing names instead of the core software.
 
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*Yawn*

Every year, the Apple pundits stir up controversy by gatekeeping some new feature. iOS 7, last year’s Safari redesign, Stage Manager this year are a few that come to mind. Bloggers pretend to be UX designers and clutch their pearls over what they claim are huge design flaws and usability problems that are so obvious to them yet somehow escaped Apple’s engineers. All in the service of having a topic they can ride across many articles and podcasts to generate clicks and discussion. It’s gotten boring and I just tune them out and wait to try the feature myself.

Stage Manager might suck, but I’m excited to try it. Window management on the Mac has been a disaster for as long as I can remember. So has multi tasking on the iPad. If it improves either one even marginally, it will be a huge win.
 
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I feel like this would be more easily achieved if Apple hadn't committed itself to "new OS every year", especially when it comes to macOS, the OS that needs the least amount of yearly overhaul. Sporadically-released updates to address known issues, optimize functionality, and sometimes introduce new features when they are perfected would be preferred to "new OS with cool new features!" every year on the dot. But "shiny new features every year" sells better than "practical updates and fixes occasionally".
Exactly right!! I wish I could “love” your post a hundred times!!
 
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Looks like a work in progress. Maybe when next version of iPadOS is released next year, everything will be fixed.
 
I am trying to use it on a Mac and I get the idea, and I think I can use it. However, I'm feeling stupid not being able to figure this out
I (IT guy) also have problems figuring out how these advanced features should work. And no, I prefer NOT RTFM. If one needs to read any kind of a manual to figure out how a system should work, it's not an easy system. For example, I didn't need to read anything to figure out how MacOS works. Or iPadOS, minus, of course, Split View. And when Quasar was released and I used it extensively on my iOS 5 (or was it already renamed to iPadOS5?) iPad 1, 2 and 3, I didn't need to read anything to use it either. THAT simplicity is what should be in this case too.
 
So Stage Manager is a failure when a guide is required.
Definitely. iOS / iPadOS used to be all about simplicity and no-need-to-RTFM. Stage Manager (or, for that matter, Split View) should be as easy to intuitively figure out as the basics of MacOS/iPadOS (or was Quasar back in the day).
 
Stage Manager on my M2 MacBook Air is great.

It work's across multiple spaces/window, so every space/window can be set up with different stage manager configuration. Also, you can use app windows/tabs more than once. So the same app can be included in different set ups.

Example, I have a different finder and safari windows open on all my different Stage Manager configurations across spaces/windows.

Basically, Stage Manager massively enhances spaces, swiping left or right between spaces in now much less cluttered and frantic as you can have everything set up neatly with stage manager.

Tip, close all apps then launch Stage Manager and set it up one app at a time.
 
I'd be wary of labelling it "poorly tested". I've been in plenty of situations where QA have diligently tested and documented something as being a hot mess, but management have insisted on shipping it anyway.
 
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Thing is it's just another layer of multitasking. Sure it's not perfect but least now there is options for spilt screen, PIP and window resizing. For those who find it useful can use it. It certainly needs improvements in terms of being able to put windows over each other and to re-size them better.

when it comes to the mac I will likely leave it on most of the time. Ipad usage i mainly use my ipad for content and to browse on safari or use apollo. to have the option to resize apollo with twitter and youtube I find useful.

I imagine many will keep it off.
 
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