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People fail to realize why others would rather use an app over a web page. For one, you get notifications. Also Instagram exist as an iPhone website too, so the iPhone app isn’t necessary with that logic.

Glad to see Apple implement iPhone apps function like most windows that allows apps to move freely with other apps.

Now, someone needs to make an iPhone only Calculator app so they always open in an acceptable size. Because as far as I know, all iPad apps have the same huge window size.
 
You can control window size, but now it doesn't have to be full screen.
But can you do anything with the screen real estate around the small Instagram window? Is it one of the "up to 8" windows you can have floating around your iPad and external screen? Do you still need blank space between apps? I am genuinely confused as to what Apple's window management tools do these days.
 
"Apple says that only iPads with the power of M1 can run Stage Manager." --- does anyone really buy this?



It's on an M1 chip!
I mean, I was running 4 apps on my iPad Mini last night. I didn't mean to, but I was developing an app and testing it in different views, and I ended up with two split screen apps, a slide over app, and netflix running in PiP mode.

The usability was terrible because the screen was so small. Like so horrid you wouldn't want to do it. And if you pulled up the keyboard, it was even worse. But power-wise (and especially if it was connected to an external monitor) there wasn't any slowdown at all.
 
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I'm playing around with Stage Manager in the latest update and it is getting closer to being usable. They added the "Close" option which actually works as expected now...mostly (With multiple windows it works as expected, when closing the last "window" in a group, it bumps you out of the stage manager UI which feels odd.)

You can now also drag a window from the side groupings into your current group which is nice. But still no way to swipe away an app on the side, and it seems to constantly want to have 4 groups which I'd prefer if it would just leave them empty until I asked for more by opening other apps. The auto-sizing and trying to move windows out of the way still feels terrible and never does what you want it to do. So still a few more beta improvements to go before release...
 
But can you do anything with the screen real estate around the small Instagram window? Is it one of the "up to 8" windows you can have floating around your iPad and external screen? Do you still need blank space between apps? I am genuinely confused as to what Apple's window management tools do these days.
You could have have small and by itself if you want, but there's no reason to. All Stage Manager windows behave the same so you can have it next to, or overlapping other app windows, something which is impossible in iPadOS15. It seems crazy that Apple never forced split screen support with phone apps on the iPad.
 
Is this any better than simply running Instagram on Safari (albeit with a lot of wasted space)?
Running it in Safari would not give you the same notifications and Share Sheet support, but otherwise, Safari would be good enough and a solution to using split screen.
 
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What I would like is some way to force portrait iPad apps to work in landscape mode. There is no reason the iPad could not support two portrait app windows side by side or one centered on the screen in landscape mode. Nothing is worse than launching an app that forces portrait mode while the Magic Keyboard is attached.
 
You could have have small and by itself if you want, but there's no reason to. All Stage Manager windows behave the same so you can have it next to, or overlapping other app windows, something which is impossible in iPadOS15. It seems crazy that Apple never forced split screen support with phone apps on the iPad.
thanks for taking the time to reply. I genuinely thought phone apps could do split screen on iPad OS pre-16, hence my confusion as to what Stage Manager was bringing that was so exciting.
 
I've never understood why people want an Instagram iPad app. Aside from the obvious question of why the hell anyone uses Instagram in the first place, it's an iPad. It has a desktop class web browser.

Back in my day everything was a website and it turns out it pretty much still is.

It makes sense that you don't understand an app that you say "why the hell anyone uses...in the first place". So not really sure why you expended the energy to comment on an app it would appear you hate. But for those who like to use it, being able to run it on an iPad, not full screen, while running other apps side by side, is appealing for many. I don't use it much, but if I ever got a notification about a friend posting while on my iPad, I would welcome this change for sure!

Aside from that, the idea of "everything was a website" makes sense if you are still at the initial concept of the internet and websites. But moving slightly past that huge leap forward back in the Web 1.0 days, we now have a more connected world where data moves faster and more freely around (for better or worse). The idea of a "website" is simply that the data moving around is displayed using HTML and other technologies instead of via Swift or C or whatever else. There is not a huge difference between an app and a webpage in the most basic terms. But that is just the starting point, not the end point. To limit the internet to that would be missing out on most of the advancements in Web 2.0, let alone 3.0 Once you start considering all the options available to a user and their data on the internet, native apps have the ability to provide a much better user experience. Doesn't mean they will, but they most certainly have a lot more potential. So while "everything still is" can be true from a limited perspective, it is very much not true in the current state of the internet and hosted data.
 
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Ok cool. Now, how about bringing back slide view feature to stage manager? Allow us to use 2 apps (one is full screen only app) simultaneously? Also, how about force portrait only app to run in windowed mode when stage manager is enabled?

Or, this “enhancement” (assuming Apple think it should happen) would need iPadOS 17 and M2 devices with 16GB RAM to realise?
 
Can someone post a screenshot of what this looks like? On my 12.9 IPP it is very small and cannot be stretched. Is this what everyone is seeing?
 
Running it in Safari would not give you the same notifications and Share Sheet support, but otherwise, Safari would be good enough and a solution to using split screen.
Ah, yeah, fair enough. Still would prefer a dedicated app for iPad, but I can see the use case for a smaller iPhone-based app for Stage Manager.
 
It makes sense that you don't understand an app that you say "why the hell anyone uses...in the first place". So not really sure why you expended the energy to comment on an app it would appear you hate. But for those who like to use it, being able to run it on an iPad, not full screen, while running other apps side by side, is appealing for many. I don't use it much, but if I ever got a notification about a friend posting while on my iPad, I would welcome this change for sure!

Aside from that, the idea of "everything was a website" makes sense if you are still at the initial concept of the internet and websites. But moving slightly past that huge leap forward back in the Web 1.0 days, we now have a more connected world where data moves faster and more freely around (for better or worse). The idea of a "website" is simply that the data moving around is displayed using HTML and other technologies instead of via Swift or C or whatever else. There is not a huge difference between an app and a webpage in the most basic terms. But that is just the starting point, not the end point. To limit the internet to that would be missing out on most of the advancements in Web 2.0, let alone 3.0 Once you start considering all the options available to a user and their data on the internet, native apps have the ability to provide a much better user experience. Doesn't mean they will, but they most certainly have a lot more potential. So while "everything still is" can be true from a limited perspective, it is very much not true in the current state of the internet and hosted data.

The only true difference is now it's based on completely proprietary platforms and systems and is completely locked in.

For a website that's all about showing pictures and comments, there's no actual reason to require an app beyond control.

I don't understand why Instagram for a lot of reasons, but what I was saying I really don't understand is why it has to be an app in the first place. It's actually a very simple service.

The fact that everyone wants an iPad app so bad just shows the negative side of making everything an app.
 
You can add another window to an iPhone-only app… before this couldn’t be done.

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Excatly that. Before those ****** apps were all full screen with huge spaces all over. I don’t use insta, but there are more apps that behave like that.
 
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