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Yesterday it updated to Processing Items 19th -25th June. Today the above update. Bit concerning the estimated delivery date has gone back!
Well, you should be changing to SHIPPED soon. When that happens you get an actual shipping estimate date from Apple in your e-mail. If that seems too far out, you can call them at that point and complain (but, if your tracking shows the watch is in China, you should expect it could take a few days to get to you - no more than 5 on the outside).
 
Hey everyone, with the next couple of weeks getting our watched I figured I would sign up after weeks of reading the thread. NY xx:36 waiting for the change shipping est. June 22-26th
 
I am very happy for Chulan as a fellow Canadian. It seems like we have all been waiting forever but all I keep hearing is that the wait is worth it.

My date range got changed for the worse moved from June 23-29, to June 23-30 but maybe I'll get lucky.
I think you should be excited that you're a :26 confirmation time and that UK one at :32 means you could be seeing a charge very soon. :)
 
Yes and no. If it delivers the last week of June, while you're technically correct, that's pretty much July, not June. For instance, if I'm ordering something that says "June" I'm going to think closer to the 15th, not the 30th.

The reality is I'm probably getting this closer to July 1 than June 15. As far as I'm concerned, that's "July" in mindset (For one thing, it is summer, and not spring anymore).

Oh, well, yeah. If you're going to redefine what 'June' means, I guess you're destined to set yourself up for disappointment. :(
 
I think you should be excited that you're a :26 confirmation time and that UK one at :32 means you could be seeing a charge very soon. :)
I think the country or region has a lot to do with the delivery dates. There is a glimmer of hope but if they take another week off for North American shipments it will be the 30th pretty quickly.
 
This arrived today after a tour around the Asia Pacific region due to some UPS delays. April 10 xx:14 order delivered on June 5th, quite the wait.

I've had my SS LB for about 3 weeks now, and am still struggling on which one I like better. There is no doubt the Space Black is the cooler and more unique looking of the two. But I can't help but think the regular stainless steel is a tad more versatile and will work better with different bands.
 

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This arrived today after a tour around the Asia Pacific region due to some UPS delays. April 10 xx:14 order delivered on June 5th, quite the wait.

I've had my SS LB for about 3 weeks now, and am still struggling on which one I like better. There is no doubt the Space Black is the cooler and more unique looking of the two. But I can't help but think the regular stainless steel is a tad more versatile and will work better with different bands.

Black and ANY color sport band will always look good. Same for leather loop, buckle, etc. The only band i personally dont like on the space black is the Milanese band. I hope they come out with a black one, because if they do, its going to be an insta buy for me. I like the band itself and the concept, dont like the color lol.
 
This arrived today after a tour around the Asia Pacific region due to some UPS delays....But I can't help but think the regular stainless steel is a tad more versatile and will work better with different bands.
If you decide to not keep it, there's going to be a pile of us Ontario guys tripping over each other to buy it from you. :)
 
Oh, well, yeah. If you're going to redefine what 'June' means, I guess you're destined to set yourself up for disappointment. :(

This isn't a redefinition. Apple could've from Day 1 said "June 22-30" and no one would be mad that they felt lied to by omission. June is vague, true-but that doesn't mean that Apple had to say things to get our hopes up, while I think believing that you'd get it late June is unnecessarily pessimistic...But, frankly, I think when people say "June" they say closer to June 15. Combined with the fact Apple said they'd have good odds of shipping early, and then we get the last point of the month, no, it isn't a redefinition. Barely June is technically June, but it is still barely June. After all, June 31st doesn't exist, so there's no way they could've oversold this. But Apple decided to be more vague and then come out with the worst case scenario.

I mean, Apple also said these things would be available "Spring 2015"-technically that's true. For a select few. Most people couldn't get them until June at the earliest...of course, technically it did launch in Spring 2015, and was available to a very limited supply of buyers April 2015...but...the notion of an April 24th launch? An outright lie-so much so Apple pulled mention of the date. But hey, maybe...1% of interested buyers got them on 4/24th. If supply was going to be that limited they should've had a "preview lottery." Mass launch? Still Summer 2015.

But hey, if you like bad faith, bad marketing, and lies of omission, you must dig this launch. If you're a customer, odds are you hated it even if you like what you bought. If you're a manager, odds are you fear for your job. If you're an apple store employee, odds are (if you care) you're embarrassed. If you're a shareholder, odds are you're demanding answers (from those managers who should fear from their jobs). If you're a fanboy? Hey, June 30th is still June!

And technically, I'm not lying if I just don't answer questions either. I guess it depends of what your definition of "is" is.
 
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Black and ANY color sport band will always look good. Same for leather loop, buckle, etc. The only band i personally dont like on the space black is the Milanese band. I hope they come out with a black one, because if they do, its going to be an insta buy for me. I like the band itself and the concept, dont like the color lol.

I agree, I have a black sport band also and it looks great with the space black. I just find the difference between those two bands on the stainless steel watch makes it look much different, and not as drastic on the space black watch. I like the look of the stainless steel slightly better while wearing a suit but the space black with the black sports band looks more casual for when that is important. I'm torn :)
 
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This isn't a redefinition. Apple could've from Day 1 said "June 22-30" and no one would be mad that they felt lied to by omission.

Only if they had the knowledge on April 10th that my watch (and yours) would arrive during that week. Giving an estimate of 'June' is much more realistic.

Apple said they'd have good odds of shipping early, and then we get the last point of the month, no, it isn't a redefinition.

They also said, in that same communique, that some customers would still continue to face long lead times. Given that the black stainless steel watch was almost instantly relegated to a June delivery date, assuming that our specific model would suddenly jump forward dramatically would've been inappropriately optimistic. Cherry picking advantageous wording from a message while willfully ignoring the parts that may not align with what one wants to hear is not a recipe for happiness.

I mean, Apple also said these things would be available "Spring 2015"-technically that's true. For a select few. Most people couldn't get them until June at the earliest...of course, technically it did launch in Spring 2015, and was available to a very limited supply of buyers April 2015...but...the notion of an April 24th launch? An outright lie-so much so Apple pulled mention of the date. But hey, maybe...1% of interested buyers got them on 4/24th. If supply was going to be that limited they should've had a "preview lottery." Mass launch? Still Summer 2015.

Not a lie. People received Watches on the 24th. Did everyone that want one get one on the 24th? Of course not. This is true of almost every tech product launch in the history of tech product launches. Supply and demand are tricky consorts and it's entirely impractical for any company, including Apple, to build up enough of a supply chain to satisfy initial demand completely concurrently and on the same day. Even if it were possible to do this, it would be a massive waste of resources: demand is never as high as it is on the initial offering and all the infrastructure required to support such a flood of requests would be money wasted starting on day '2' of the launch.

Also, so far, every human being that has received an Apple Watch since launch has received it in the Spring. Additionally, it looks like the vast majority of pre-orders will ship before spring concludes. A couple of select models may not be, but there's never a guarantee when a company launches a product with a wide array of variability that every combination will be available to everyone that wants it right away. I'm not sure where this expectation came from.

But hey, if you like bad faith, bad marketing, and lies of omission, you must dig this launch.

This is disingenuous. Nobody likes bad faith, etc. The difference is that I don't see this as an issue of bad faith or lies of any sort. I get that people are anxious to get their watches, but when we put our money down on April 10th knowing we'd get it sometime in June, and it looks like we will get them in June, asserting that bad faith and lies have been practiced is misplaced anxiety.

If you're a customer, odds are you hated it even if you like what you bought. If you're a manager, odds are you fear for your job. If you're an apple store employee, odds are (if you care) you're embarrassed. If you're a shareholder, odds are you're demanding answers (from those managers who should fear from their jobs). If you're a fanboy? Hey, June 30th is still June!

I'm a customer. I'm definitely a stock holder. I think Apple has handled the huge demand for this brand new product category in an admirable fashion. It's understandable that some customers will feel entitled to a level that will see them flinging disparaging epithets at the company because they didn't have the ability to deliver what they wanted instantly (or within the customer's singular, personal 'feeling' for when it should be delivered), but so far Apple has communicated upfront when they thought the product would be available and, to date, has been delivering on those promises without fail.
 
38mm moved to "preparing for shipment" and card got charged today. Hoping for a Monday delivery!

Assuming china doesnt have ****ING HUB ISSUES AGAIN, youll get it monday easily. I got mine monday after 3 ****ING DELAYS cause the Chinese decided to break the HUB in shanghai.
 
Orders outside of the US are moving, nice. So next week should be US again
 
xx:18 UK order, status updated this morning to 2-3 week shipping estimate.. now it's sat on PFS and I have a pending charge waiting to go out, ironically I've paid a ton of bills today and almost emptied my bank account.. trust this to happen, my wallet suddenly just got skinnier.

I do get a slight feeling it may still be two weeks before I have it in hand though, if some of you guys are estimating a week for shipping, processing and delivery times from China then it could easily peak into that region I would imagine.
 
Only if they had the knowledge on April 10th that my watch (and yours) would arrive during that week. Giving an estimate of 'June' is much more realistic.

Except, it wasn't more realistic. See: Changing all June dates to the last week. But I digress:

They also said, in that same communique, that some customers would still continue to face long lead times. Given that the black stainless steel watch was almost instantly relegated to a June delivery date, assuming that our specific model would suddenly jump forward dramatically would've been inappropriately optimistic. Cherry picking advantageous wording from a message while willfully ignoring the parts that may not align with what one wants to hear is not a recipe for happiness.

No reason to believe that means SBSS. It isn't cherry picking; while it didn't say all, Apple expressed confidence, which gives no reason to assume a worst case scenario.

Not a lie. People received Watches on the 24th. Did everyone that want one get one on the 24th? Of course not. This is true of almost every tech product launch in the history of tech product launches. Supply and demand are tricky consorts and it's entirely impractical for any company, including Apple, to build up enough of a supply chain to satisfy initial demand completely concurrently and on the same day. Even if it were possible to do this, it would be a massive waste of resources: demand is never as high as it is on the initial offering and all the infrastructure required to support such a flood of requests would be money wasted starting on day '2' of the launch.

Apple pulled that from marketing materials. It isn't that "everyone got one on the 24th" as much as "Probably no more than 5% of orders were fulfilled by the 24th" though Apple isn't being forthcoming. I do know I was able to get an iPhone on launch day, no pre-order, repeatedly. This seemed far tighter, and far more exclusive. Not saying everyone had to get one. But I live in NYC and have never seen one in the wild; this to me suggests very few people have actually gotten it. These message boards cannot count as a general sample of the public.

Also, so far, every human being that has received an Apple Watch since launch has received it in the Spring. Additionally, it looks like the vast majority of pre-orders will ship before spring concludes. A couple of select models may not be, but there's never a guarantee when a company launches a product with a wide array of variability that every combination will be available to everyone that wants it right away. I'm not sure where this expectation came from.

I'm not sure I consider June to be Spring. But even so, when someone says "Spring 2015" it would be reasonable to expect a high bulk of shipments halfway, or May 1. This was simply not the case.

This is disingenuous. Nobody likes bad faith, etc. The difference is that I don't see this as an issue of bad faith or lies of any sort. I get that people are anxious to get their watches, but when we put our money down on April 10th knowing we'd get it sometime in June, and it looks like we will get them in June, asserting that bad faith and lies have been practiced is misplaced anxiety.

I disagree that it is disingenuous. You're justifying incompetence. Apple could've said "Ships by June 30th" and I probably would've complained on launch day, but I doubt I would be complaining, say, in June. But to each their own. I think that saying "June" does not include June 1-21 is very bad faith, and if nothing else, says that unless you ordered within the first few minutes of the launch, you weren't getting your watch in Spring. And when you're fighting over positions so close, and within the first hour, I think this is a key point. Apple essentially has given us a date closer to July 1 than June 1, and possibly closer to July than even the mid-point in June.

I'm a customer. I'm definitely a stock holder. I think Apple has handled the huge demand for this brand new product category in an admirable fashion. It's understandable that some customers will feel entitled to a level that will see them flinging disparaging epithets at the company because they didn't have the ability to deliver what they wanted instantly (or within the customer's singular, personal 'feeling' for when it should be delivered), but so far Apple has communicated upfront when they thought the product would be available and, to date, has been delivering on those promises without fail.

It isn't that Apple didn't deliver what I wanted instantly. I pulled the trigger on June knowing full well what I was getting into, again, assuming a delivery near the beginning of June, or at least the mid-point since it was within a half hour of launch. My mistake. But Apple could've still said that "June" meant "Summer" at best. They didn't. They then said it might not be so bad. And kept it vague while giving people in July "June 29th" dates-not to say they deserve their watches so late at all. But if they could give them earlier dates, certainly Apple could've had the worst case dates weeks ago. They didn't, and this is why it seems like a huge, inexcusable lie.

I'm still going to buy the watch, mostly because I'm curious. I may like or dislike the watch. I can still return it if I dislike it. But make no mistake, this launch was horribly bungled. Apple's gadget wasn't ready for prime time when it was announced with a vague date. Marketing materials changed to the actual launch point. Components seem to have not been tested ruining the initial mass production run. Anyone who thinks that this launch has been professional in any way...I simply cannot understand. This product may be a good product and this will probably all be forgotten about soon. It'll probably sell well. But that doesn't mean this is a good launch, and it is certainly a very frustrating one. Had I known what I know now, if I were to order it, I would've simply gotten a blue sport.

And that's the most frustrating part of all. I feel punished for buying a higher priced model.
 
I understand your viewpoint, but I disagree with the premise of your argument that Apple has been disingenuous at any point. You were promised June, and now that they've narrowed the delivery range, the delivery range is still within June.

Additionally; this (as has been stated probably many times in many other venues) is a completely new product, manufactured at a scale that is typically unprecedented for new products, with a number of fairly new-to-market features that are unseen in any other consumer device. Considering all of this, Apple has hit timely (and been ahead of all estimates for all models, remember) shipping targets through out the launch.

While those shipping targets may not line up with your assumptions, I am unsure that you should feel nearly as betrayed as you appear to be in your ranting.

Personally, I am also disappointed, but I don't feel that Apple has lied to me; simply that it's unfortunate that the timeline has extended to the back-end of the promised range, rather than the front.
 
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I would've simply gotten a blue sport.


Well, you had all of May to do that. But here we are in June and getting our watches as promised. The majority of us are looking forward to it as well. Can't say you are. There is a thread dedicated to whinging about June deliveries. Maybe you can fill the pages up over there with your unrealistic fudging about when a month starts and finishes. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...suffering-here.1865602/page-117#post-21403141
Personally, I use a calendar. Most times an Apple calendar.
 
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They did lie in regards to Apple Watch Available early spring 2015 ... Statement from last year.

Then preorder date April 10.. Available April 24... But starts selling in store June 26.. 2 months later.

Yea I'm salty. Won't be happy unless I get mine before my date.
 
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