Star Trek: Alpha to Delta Quadrants & Everything In Between

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  1. Mousse macrumors 68000

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    The problem with Nemesis, for me at least, was the Reman ship Scimitar. It far out classes anything in the ST universe (except pre-Voyager Borg Cube), yet the Remans couldn't over throw the Romulans? I'm gonna assume the brand spanking new Valdore-class is equal to or superior to the aging D'Deridex. The Scimitar squashed a pair of Valdore-class without receiving any damage. The way they toyed with THE best ship (most advance tech, best weapons, and a legendary captain and crew) in the Federation, showed that if they had been serious, Enterprise E would have lasted as long as a Red Shirt on an away mission.
    The plot/script for Nemesis was rather weak. They tried to prop it up with great F/X. The cast and crew, the ship are all Star Trek. But, for me, the movie did not have the Star Trek vibe; more of an action flick in Star Trek skin.
     
  2. Mac'nCheese Suspended

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    #852
    Yes that’s all true. Not sure why they didn’t over throw the romulans right away.

    I did enjoy the action especially the end. The crashing of the enterprise into the Scimitar, Troy firing the weapon, Riker fighting, it all worked for me.
     
  3. BigMcGuire Contributor

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    #853
    Nothing can describe the shock and pain of seeing your favorite character since you were a wee little kid die... in theaters, totally unexpected. That killed it for me. I haven't been able to watch it again since then. Great movie, great acting, great F/X... I wasn't a fan of the storyline and like Mousse I have problems with someone able to build a ship that bests the Federation and Romulans, in hiding, totally unexpected, ... and it be almost as good as a ship 100-200 years in the future. The whole firing while cloaking but not being detected when computers are 600x more advanced... ok ok, don't get me started.

    I'm a huge fan of TNG - I grew up with it. Was really hoping there would be another movie after Nemesis. :(.

    Not a fan of Discovery, I found the first few episodes and the need to pay for a separate additional streaming service to be very unsavory. I hear rumors about Picard having his own series - sometime after Nemesis. Looking forward to what the future shows.

    I just got my wife to go through TOS over the last 3-4 months. We're starting TNG as of last week. :)


    The Orville is feeding my Trekkie needs exceedingly well and is one of my favorite shows to watch these days (my wife as well).
     
  4. cwerdna macrumors 6502

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    I hear you on the former. I don't like it either but (in the US), you're also probably going to need to pay for CBS All Access to see the below, given the tweet at https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/4/1...uc-picard-star-trek-cbs-all-access-new-series.

    For ST: D, just subscribe for as long as you need to get thru the 2 current seasons and cancel. Rejoin later when season 3 comes on. S2:E13 was tonight and we've only get 1 more ep for S2. I'm overall enjoying the show.

    As for "the Picard show", it's not a rumor. I was at the Vegas convention when Patrick Stewart came out on stage: https://trekmovie.com/2018/08/10/se...turn-to-star-trek-in-full-announcement-video/. He wasn't in the program nor on the roster. In the midst of a panel, they announced Alex Kurtzman would have a special announcement or something at a certain time. IIRC, they were early and it was a total surprise (just like the video shows) of Patrick Stewart coming out.
     
  5. MasterControlOp Suspended

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    I think I will have to subscribe for this. i already know two big spoilers from Discovery but I'll binge that show as well. Trying to hold off on paying more for streaming services but this sounds too good to pass up.Wonder how many old cast members of TNG will show up. The new Data (I can't remember his name from the last movie)? Jonathan Frakes will probably direct a bunch of episodes, too.
     
  6. cwerdna macrumors 6502

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    #857
    Per the tweet at https://www.cnet.com/news/star-trek-picard-tv-show-gets-a-sensible-name-and-a-perfect-logo/, the "Picard show" will be called Star Trek: Picard. There's a single screen capture there, as well.

    The tweet says
    Also, S2 of ST: D ended a little while ago. Not sure if it's been posted already, but ST: D got renewed for season 3 a few months ago.
     
  7. cwerdna macrumors 6502

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    I really want to see that documentary, I hope they make it available for streaming soon.
     
  10. Scepticalscribe thread starter macrumors Westmere

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    Thanks for posting this; I saw the clip yesterday elsewhere on Twitter (and am unable to open your link).

    Great to think that Picard might be back with us; while STNG was a terrific piece of ensemble acting, its moral and ethical core was always Jean-Luc Picard as portrayed by Patrick Stewart.
     
  11. whooleytoo macrumors 604

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    Definitely. For me, STNG - without Stewart/Picard - would have been a run of the mill sci-fi action series. Spaceships check. 'Robots' check. Lasers check. But he grounded it, made it more about people, mores, values.
     
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  13. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    Edward James Olmos was offered the role of Picard before Patrick Stewart. (Source: IMDB)

    What a different show it would have been, had Mr. Olmos accepted.
     
  14. Huntn macrumors P6

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    I have a hard time imagining. I like both of them as Starship Captains. :)
     
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    Scepticalscribe thread starter macrumors Westmere

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    I hadn't known that.

    Actually, I thought him excellent on Miami Vice, a reserved, thoughtful and serious leader, and he would have been a very impressive (but also, a very different) captain.

    Nevertheless, to me, Patrick Stewart was the actor who made STNG what it became; he gave it depth, a moral core, and a sort of (understated) philosophical credibility.

    In ToS, I far preferred Mr Spock to Captain Kirk; I suppose that I prefer slightly introverted, thoughtful, individuals as leaders, (and as friends) to the clichéd dashing, charismatic, swashbuckling (and macho) type.

    Yes, in life (and fiction) one may need both, but I know where my personal preferences lie in life, art, and imagination.
     
  16. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    Agree with your take on this, I must also say I admire both Patrick Stewart and Leonard Nimoy as actors and - from what I know - as people too.
     
  17. Mousse macrumors 68000

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    Arghh... Now I can't get the visions of Patrick Stewart battling the Cylons out of my head.:oops: Having Commander Adama call Colonel Tigh "Number One" kind of works for me.:D
     
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    It's pretty easy to visualize Edward James Olmos doing the same or similar as Patrick Stewart. He was quite excellent in Battlestar Galactica
     
  19. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    Yes, and I also have a high regard for him as an actor and person as with Patrick Stewart.
     
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    ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    #873
    The CBS All Access exclusivity for Star Trek (in the USA) is temporary.

    For example, Discovery S1 is available on iTunes, Amazon, and I assume other streaming services. It is also available to rent and purchase on disc.
     

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