It failed for many reasons, though I agree with you about teen angst and anxity. Star trek wasn't the best vehicle for that sort of show format.
Not if it 💩 on prior lore. A female Jem Ha'dar? They're mass produced in vats and they're all male. Way to 💩 on lore. Disco with it's new look Klingons. Again, 💩 on prior lore.
They changed Picard from an Ubermensch into Space Captain Noir. He was hard boiled, man.😑 The original crew got the thug treatment. Quit 💩-ing on lore.
TOS is good story with a side of social justice. The story is the meat and potatoes, the social justice aspect is the seasoning. The only TOS episode where social justice was the main course was Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. That episode was awful as far as TOS episodes goes.
The message from the fanbase, the old school Trekkies/Trekkers is don't F with the old lore.
Spot on. We tune into ST to watch good science fiction. Good stories with interesting characters from different planets. I am perfectly fine with sprinkling in some larger messages and social justice issues to add punch to the story. But, SFA waterboarded the viewer with young adult angst and SJ messaging. Frankly, not only did it mess-up the story, but it actually detracted from the messaging.
Well said.
Indeed, Andor didn't mess Star Wars Canon or continuity except for minor things, for example Mon Motha made her speech denouncing Palpatine in the animated series Rebels - which I have not watched - after escaping Coruscant. There were a lot of excellent woman actors, an LGBTQ coiuple (Val and Cinta played by Faye Marsay and Varada Sethu both gorgeous 🫠), many "minorities" and even a robot or two 😉. The story and writing denoucing authoritarianism and the realties of a rebellion with only subtle nods to the force were top notch so being PC ain't the problem.
👏👏👏 Look what happen when Star Wars made a seemingly minor change to A New Hope. The fan base went into an uproar. Han shot first.😎 Anything else is sacrilege.🧐 That minor change completely altered the character of Han from being an amoral do what you have to to survive nerf herder to a morally superior kill only in self defense nerf herder.😒
George Lucas was horrible for that. I have I believe Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in the restored original version that some people did online and it is so much better then all the new updates and expansions they added to it. I really don't care about new aliens, but the interaction between different cultures, especially the main ones they have and the conflict that it can bring.
Well hopefully you've continued world building and storytelling so that newer viewers want to keep watching and keep the story going. Jumping 1000 years into the future and using it as an excuse to do whatever you want with the established lore breaks the whole chain though.
It's not even that they are just beating this to death, it literally breaks the Star Trek formula for exploring progressive ideas and inclusive themes when all you do is overlay the 21st century human version of whatever on the character. The modern Trek shows repeatedly get this wrong by assuming that being alien in appearance is enough to break the stereotypical barrier without any actual alien substance. Trek is most effective at this when the presentation is wrapped in enough 'alieness' that it doesn't immediately trigger someone's preconceptions and forces them to look at their own bigotry through a giant humbling mirror.
Quark call-out out the Federation hypocrisy is a stellar example of this.
