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Star Trek, the new movie (possible spoilers)

eleven2brett said:
I really liked it. I think that the movie was driven much more by the characters than the plot, which is a welcome change for the franchise.
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I would have to agree as well.

This new movie wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. It's still about a 7.5 outta 10 for me, (for reference an 8.5 on my list is Sunshine **for reasons other than the very POOR protagonist in that movie**).

The characters remained true to form enough so that you can see how they would become the characters of the 70's sitcom. They were too freaking young for my tastes, and much of the development into the Enterprise crew was rushed and coincidental.

I guess I am more happy that it could have been much worse, and done in the typical garbage Hollywood style but didn't.... it had it's parts though.

And I am very glad.... VERY VERY GLAD that starship actually looks like a STARSHIP this time though engineering could have been dirtier.
 
Am I the only one wishing they explained WTF this red matter stuff is? red goo that creates a black hole, and no explanation as to how?

a little clarification on that, and a little more restraint on using close-ups during action scenes would have been nice, but otherwise, a great movie. I'd almost think it were an even numbered trek film.
 
plinkoman said:
Am I the only one wishing they explained WTF this red matter stuff is? red goo that creates a black hole, and no explanation as to how?

a little clarification on that, and a little more restraint on using close-ups during action scenes would have been nice, but otherwise, a great movie. I'd almost think it were an even numbered trek film.
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Yeah I agree. There was zero explanation of what this red goo was an why did it create black holes. Overall I thought it was a really good watch. I thought the casting was great and the plot really was more about how the original group got together to create the Enterprise crew. The effects were wonderful. Seeing Spock showing emotion/kissing was a little weird. I don't know if he ever did in the original series. The dude in this pic was strolling while we were in line and then did star trek trivia for all of us once we were inside.

This movie perfectly sets up a sequel.
 

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screenwriting99 said:
The interaction between Spock and Ohura was Hot. Anyone who says otherwise is a Racist.
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Not racist at all, it just wasn't reflective of the established Spock character
It even seemed out of place within the context of the new film to me

In the original series there were definite interplays on Spock's human side, even with Ohura (Season 1 Episode 2 and probably others), but nothing to suggest what was seen in this version as I recall

I didn't find it distasteful from a racist viewpoint, I just viewed it as oddly out of character for Spock, especially given the emphasis on trying to provoke emotion from him later in the movie

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plinkoman said:
Am I the only one wishing they explained WTF this red matter stuff is? red goo that creates a black hole, and no explanation as to how?

a little clarification on that, and a little more restraint on using close-ups during action scenes would have been nice, but otherwise, a great movie. I'd almost think it were an even numbered trek film.
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No, the trick here is to NOT think about it too much. That red stuff is Materia Deus ex Machina. It's there to drive the plot. I specifically DO NOT want an explanation for that stuff. Regardless of what explanation could possibly be proffered, it will not make sense. It can only screw things up, not make it better.
 
MacDawg said:
Not racist at all, it just wasn't reflective of the established Spock character
It even seemed out of place within the context of the new film to me

In the original series there were definite interplays on Spock's human side, even with Ohura (Season 1 Episode 2 and probably others), but nothing to suggest what was seen in this version as I recall

I didn't find it distasteful from a racist viewpoint, I just viewed it as oddly out of character for Spock, especially given the emphasis on trying to provoke emotion from him later in the movie

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I understand completely. Spock was far more emotional in this film than in the series or the movies.

But, I am hoping that the Abrams wanted to show the character's youth, to show their beginning flaws and interactions before developing them into the characters we knew from the 70's.

Maybe, hopefully.
 
I don't recall Vulcan ever being destroyed in the timeline...

I'm presuming that a massive reset button has been depressed, and the future events of TNG, DS9, VOY are now in question?
 
^It's an alternate universe (timeline) now essentially. Everything that has happened with the shows you mentioned above no longer occur in this new timeline.

I'm having mixed feelings about this movie still. Grew up watching TNG and of course I watched the original series with my dad whenever it was on.
 
benthewraith said:
I don't recall Vulcan ever being destroyed in the timeline...

I'm presuming that a massive reset button has been depressed, and the future events of TNG, DS9, VOY are now in question?
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Teh Don Ditty said:
^It's an alternate universe (timeline) now essentially. Everything that has happened with the shows you mentioned above no longer occur in this new timeline.

I'm having mixed feelings about this movie still. Grew up watching TNG and of course I watched the original series with my dad whenever it was on.
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Yes, the bringing on of Leonard Nemoy was to sort of bridge the old and new. He was the timeline we know and love, the dude from Heroes is the new Spock and this new movie is the new timeline.

I have higher hopes for this film than many of the others. I really hope this movie takes a higher road since X-Men, Spider Man, Transformers, are all going to be the typical Hollywood cookie cutter films now.

There's not a Star Trek series that didn't get my imagination churning, all of them were great and unique, even Enterprise. I am just crossing my fingers for these so called "film-makers" in Hollywood to actually make a sequel that's BETTER than the previous film and pushes the series into greater depths.

But alas, I know I am asking far too much for modern day Californian film makers.
 
Digital Skunk said:
Yes, the bringing on of Leonard Nemoy was to sort of bridge the old and new. He was the timeline we know and love, the dude from Heroes is the new Spock and this new movie is the new timeline.

I have higher hopes for this film than many of the others. I really hope this movie takes a higher road since X-Men, Spider Man, Transformers, are all going to be the typical Hollywood cookie cutter films now.

There's not a Star Trek series that didn't get my imagination churning, all of them were great and unique, even Enterprise. I am just crossing my fingers for these so called "film-makers" in Hollywood to actually make a sequel that's BETTER than the previous film and pushes the series into greater depths.

But alas, I know I am asking far too much for modern day Californian film makers.
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I did appreciate the bridging of old and new Spock. I think new Spock was rather interesting, especially when displaying his emotions.

I think I was expecting more from the plot in regards to Nero or perhaps a more epic battle with the enterprise.

The movie or subsequent new franchise (cause it will be) does have potential as long as it doesn't go the route of Michael Bay. Don't get me wrong I loves me some explosions, but I wants me some plot.

I did enjoy the updating of the technology, it was impressive. The Enterprise looked visually stunning and accurate externally. The bridge got a rather stellar update and engineering, as somebody mentioned, looks like engineering.

Nitpicks: Nokia phone placement and music (our modern music).
 
Really loved the film.... maybe the best of the franchise yet... at least for me :)

Think John Cho was the weakest link in the characters. May be due to my seeing him as "Harold" from the "Harold & Kumar" series of films.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Really loved the film.... maybe the best of the franchise yet... at least for me :)

Think John Cho was the weakest link in the characters. May be due to my seeing him as "Harold" from the "Harold & Kumar" series of films.
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I agree. I half expected them to just kill him off since there wasn't really any character to him.
 
Digital Skunk said:
There's not a Star Trek series that didn't get my imagination churning, all of them were great and unique, even Enterprise. I am just crossing my fingers for these so called "film-makers" in Hollywood to actually make a sequel that's BETTER than the previous film and pushes the series into greater depths.
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If the next movie sucks, then we'll know to avoid either the odds or evens.
 
I felt Chekov's accent was a bit too silly but I guess that was the point, a little comic relief.

I would have preferred that the Romulans spoke Romulan instead of perfect English but I guess they didn't want to deal with subtitles. I loved how the Klingons actually spoke their own language part of the time in the previous movies, it added more depth and realism to their characters.

Overall I loved the movie.
 
I wouldn't call myself a "Trekkie", but I did enjoy TNG and DS9. Although I never could get in to Voyager.

That being said, I thought it was a great movie! The plot was definitely character development driven, which was necessary in this kind of film, meaning it being the first of what is likely to be many more to come.

I don't like to "think" too much with these kinds of stories. It's all obviously unreal, so I'm not going to sit there and try to make it real. By doing that I'm able to disconnect myself from what I know and really enjoy the movie.

I do enjoy a good space fight, and would have rather had a few minutes of "pew pew" (that made me laugh!) with all the other federation ships (a la First Contact) instead of having the Enterprise arrive after they're already destroyed.

But all-in-all it was a great movie to just sit back and enjoy (aside from my $5.50 popcorn being waaay too salty). I cherish these moments at the movie theatre nowadays, because they just don't happen as much as they used to before my son was born three years ago! ;)

Oh, and speaking of kids... in the row just below us there was a couple sitting together with an INFANT baby in the woman's lap! Are you kidding me?? :confused: This little baby couldn't have been more than two months old, and they're dragging it to an incredibly loud movie theatre?? It's like when I see people carrying their infant children at college football games and it gets so loud that even my ears are ringing for the rest of the night. Just imagine what's happening to these babies.

Stupid.
 
characters i liked the most include:
Bones - cast so perfectly, funny every time he came on scene
Scotty - Also funny, got the audience laughing
Spock - visually great choice, seemed a bit too emotional
Kirk - good choice, a bit too cocky
Uhura - sexy, but a bit too straight laced
Chekhov - bad russian accent too distracting
Sulu - i'll always associate Cho with American Pie and the one that populazed the term "MILF"
 
abercrombie said:
characters i liked the most include:
Bones - cast so perfectly, funny every time he came on scene
Scotty - Also funny, got the audience laughing
Spock - visually great choice, seemed a bit too emotional
Kirk - good choice, a bit too cocky
Uhura - sexy, but a bit too straight laced
Chekhov - bad russian accent too distracting
Sulu - i'll always associate Cho with American Pie and the one that populazed the term "MILF"
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I agree with your assessment over all...

As to Spock, Kirk, and Uhura - the plot was/is an alternate reality... hopefully these characters and actors will grow in to their roles in future films... maybe even for Chekhov... but a new Sulu is much needed IMO...
 
plinkoman said:
Am I the only one wishing they explained WTF this red matter stuff is? red goo that creates a black hole, and no explanation as to how?

a little clarification on that, and a little more restraint on using close-ups during action scenes would have been nice, but otherwise, a great movie. I'd almost think it were an even numbered trek film.
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"According to the Star Trek: Countdown prequel comic book, which details the events leading up to the destruction of Romulus, red matter was an artificial substance created by the Vulcan Science Academy. It was manufactured from decalithium, a rare isotope which the Narada was equipped to mine." -- Star Trek Wiki
 
Signal-11 said:
No, the trick here is to NOT think about it too much. That red stuff is Materia Deus ex Machina. It's there to drive the plot. I specifically DO NOT want an explanation for that stuff. Regardless of what explanation could possibly be proffered, it will not make sense. It can only screw things up, not make it better.
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It would just be Star Trek techno-jargon. No, technobabble; nonsense language meant to sound technical and make you believe that it could be possible.

But it's all just dribble.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
:) My friend that I saw the movie with agrees with you, as do I.... Bones was a second runner up there. :)
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Bones was perfect, absolutely loved him.

abercrombie said:
characters i liked the most include:
Bones - cast so perfectly, funny every time he came on scene
Scotty - Also funny, got the audience laughing
Spock - visually great choice, seemed a bit too emotional
Kirk - good choice, a bit too cocky
Uhura - sexy, but a bit too straight laced
Chekhov - bad russian accent too distracting
Sulu - i'll always associate Cho with American Pie and the one that populazed the term "MILF"
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I think the point with Spock was to actually show his emotions and how he deals with them, rather them him just being Original Spock. If he was more like Original Spock, people would've bitched.

In regards to Chekhov, too bad he was born and raised in Leningrad (now St. Petersberg) USSR/Russia. Therefore his accent was real.
 
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