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I would like to be able to send Pandora to Apple TV (which is connected to the audio system throughout the house) and sporting events that are streaming from the web using my ipad. For that matter, why Pandora is not an imbedded app in Apple TV is beyond me.

You can stream Pandora to the appleTV. double click home button and swipe left when pandor is running, you'll see the airplay button there.
 
imagine VLC player for iOS with Airplay.... :eek:

I doubt that will ever work. Airplay works by redirecting the A/V stream to the AppleTV. It would have to physically re-encode stuff before sending it to the AppleTV for VLC to work.

AirVideo on the other hand. It let's your PC/Mac do the realtime encoding and then that stream is sent to your iOS Device and in turn can be sent via AirPlay to the ATV (with the JB Hack). But even it has issues with AirPlay at the moment, like trying to start the movie from some other spot than the beginning (works fine on the iPad/iPhone but starts at the beginning when sent to the ATV). I'm sure that could be fixed when Apple gives the Dev's the ability to have official support in 2011.
 
I would like to be able to send Pandora to Apple TV (which is connected to the audio system throughout the house) and sporting events that are streaming from the web using my ipad. For that matter, why Pandora is not an imbedded app in Apple TV is beyond me.

You can already do this.

Go to Pandora on your iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad and use Airplay to send the audio to your Apple TV. Agree that a Pandora app for the Apple TV would make a lot of sense, but in the meantime it's no big deal to do it from your iphone. It will probably even work in the background, since Pandora can stream audio in the background.

Remember that Airplay Audio DOES work with many third-party apps already, including safari and Pandora.
 
I find it funny how Steve only bothers to come off his cloud and reply to emails written in an over-the-top grovelling/brown-nosing/praising style.

I wonder how far I would get if I sent him an email saying "Hey Steve, I just spent a wad of hard-earned cash on an iPad after hearing about Airprint and yet your latest iOS update seems to have make it a crippled and useless 'feature' that is nothing like the hype you stirred up. When are you going to apologise and keep your ****ing promise...dude"?


No reason to "wonder". Why don't you just try it and see what happens? :rolleyes:
 
I just hope that "coming in 2011" doesn't mean "on the iphone5 and iPad2 only".

Why am I brave to admit it?

Take a look at the insults flying around this forum when one member emailed Steve about the AirPrint issues. It was like a bunch of seven year olds teasing a kid who'd gotten a letter from Santa when they didn't.
 
The hack to enable video AirPlay in all apps is one line of code. Just putting that out there.

Yes it may be one line of code, however one of the big features of AirPlay is not enabled with that one line of code - the ability to play video in the background.

I used the tethered Jailbreak to test the "global" AirPlay enabler and while it works pretty well, there are some quirks with it.

The biggie is probably the lack of background video support. While iOS supports backgrounding for Audio, there is no support for Video yet. If you start playing a video to the ATV and then put the iPad/iPhone to sleep, the video stops (same if you exit the application).

There are also some issues with slow video streams from the net being streamed back to the ATV. Sometimes they play well (after a couple minutes of loading), sometimes they will freeze up and stop mid way. Some don't even work at all and display an error on the ATV.

While its nice, with the JB, to be able to stream any video to the ATV, I can see why its not fully implemented yet for 3rd party apps and Safari.
 
People...it is a content ownership issue.

"Hope to add in 2011"? I'm not holding my breath, sounds like it's not really close at all.

Apple could do it yesterday if they wanted to AND had the rights. Why do you think Hulu on the iPad doesn't have the same content as Hulu on the computer? Because Hulu has not been granted the same rights for distribution on the iPad. Airplay is the same issue.

Trust me Apple wants to do this...but they don't control all the necessary pieces. I'm sure with a little more time they WILL have airplay of video shot on your iphone... but Airplay for all content on your iOS device might be a long time coming...without a jailbreak.
 
It seems silly that we cannot stream any and all content from an iphone, ipad, ipod touch or mac to an apple tv device, when the microsoft is running commercials showing their new phone's ability to stream live video taken from the phone to the web. Frustrating.

You too can download the same app MS is using...it's called QIK Live. Have fun and stop complaining.
 
On the XMas list is both an AppleTV and iPad.

I have a Mac Mini currently pulling duty as a media center hooked to the TV. I would like to move the Mini into the back room. In its place I would like to put the AppleTV and stream MP4 video from the Mini to the AppleTV and possibly the iPad.

As the updates stand now, is streaming like this from the Mini possible to either device? Or is this possible future update what I would need?

Set up home sharing on your mini and the apple tv will see all of your media connected through itunes on your apple tv. It's pretty easy. You can't stream video natively to the iPad without programs like airvideo or zumocast. Air Video is by far the best implementation
 
Yes...

On the XMas list is both an AppleTV and iPad.

I have a Mac Mini currently pulling duty as a media center hooked to the TV. I would like to move the Mini into the back room. In its place I would like to put the AppleTV and stream MP4 video from the Mini to the AppleTV and possibly the iPad.

As the updates stand now, is streaming like this from the Mini possible to either device? Or is this possible future update what I would need?

Download Zumocast (Audio and Video) or Plex (Audio, Video and Pictures in iPhoto or Aperture library) on both you Mini and iOS devices and you are golden.
 
Air Video is by far the best implementation

AirVideo quality is superior to Zumocast...but it only does video and it is much easier to find things (ie the User Interface is better) on Zumocast than Airvideo... but if razor sharp video is paramount, go with AirVideo.
 
That explains why it didn't work. I thought I was holding it wrong or something.

Enough with the emailing Steve Jobs. Someone should Facetime has face and post the conversation on Youtube about some random question.


Ha what a great idea. I tried it...no luck.
 

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I find it funny how Steve only bothers to come off his cloud and reply to emails written in an over-the-top grovelling/brown-nosing/praising style.

I wonder how far I would get if I sent him an email saying "Hey Steve, I just spent a wad of hard-earned cash on an iPad after hearing about Airprint and yet your latest iOS update seems to have make it a crippled and useless 'feature' that is nothing like the hype you stirred up. When are you going to apologise and keep your ****ing promise...dude"?

Good things come to those who wait:)
SJ
Sent from my G4 Methusalem
 
Wait...this isn't true. I have some videos I shot during my Labor Day weekend trip, which are in a folder inside of my Photos app, alongside the pictures from that trip, and I can AirPlay the images to my Apple TV but when I select any of the videos nothing happens.
Gruber says exactly the same, you currently cannot Airplay from the Photos app (where self-shot video ends up in). But if you export the video onto a computer and then import it into iTunes (and let iTunes sync it back to the iPhone) then the very same video file will end up in the Videos app from which you can Airplay.
 
unless you have an ancient TV, most TV's these days will play media directly from a USB stick. same with playstation and x-box.

what is the point of buying an Apple TV when you can just buy a USB stick?

Yes, and most TV's have buttons on them so what is the point of a remote?
 
I find it funny how Steve only bothers to come off his cloud and reply to emails written in an over-the-top grovelling/brown-nosing/praising style.

then i guess you havent been paying attention.

I wonder how far I would get if I sent him an email saying...When are you going to apologise and keep your ****ing promise...dude"?

so why again do you think anyone would give heed to anyone behaving badly?

seriously, im amazing by the mouth-breathers who think they are somehow special. youre just a dude, another consumer. nobody promised you milk and cookies -- either buy the device you like, or dont. send feedback if you like. but dont think youre special and dont expect anyone to bow down to you.

until the day you lead several multi-billion-dollar industries, anyway. then i guess you can expect people to think youre special. until then...
 
You are getting better results that me. I am unable to see my 2nd Gen AppleTV from my iPhone 4. Remote app doesn't work either with my AppleTV, but does work with my iMac. I dunno.

You have wifi issues.

Get one of the Apple Airport Extremes...put your appleTV and Ipad on the 802.11N 5GHZ band and put your Iphone4 and Itouch4 on the 802.11n 2.4GHZ band.
 
I just hope that "coming in 2011" doesn't mean "on the iphone5 and iPad2 only".



Take a look at the insults flying around this forum when one member emailed Steve about the AirPrint issues. It was like a bunch of seven year olds teasing a kid who'd gotten a letter from Santa when they didn't.


I know some people can be such kids...but they also push things along. Steve listens to all of us.

In time Airprint and AirVideo will be fully implemented. At least we got these features...
 
I don't know about you guys, but I tried the two different airvideo enablers that I found in Cydia, and they were both crap. I watched a video of someone (on you tube) playing video from AirVideo app and then streaming it to the ATV2 and I tried everything to get this to work, but never could. I also tried StreamToMe, and was able to get the audio to stream to the ATV2. When I tried streaming video from say, Apple's website, a commercial for the iPhone 4, it streams from Safari fine, but then I couldn't get any other videos to NOT stream to the ATV2. It automatically did it, and I tried disabling it and wouldn't work. I finally gave up and realized that that 'one line of code' is extremely buggy and not worth playing around with any more. This was all tested on my iPad btw. Haven't tried it on the iPhone 4 yet, and probably won't. I'll wait for Steve to perfect it in iOS 5.
 
I'm hoping for AirPlay to Macs from iDevices in Lion.

This^, im not buying an AppleTV when i have a macbook and MacMini hooked up to my tv which are perfectly capable of doing the job.

It would be nice to be able to address every capable Apple device with airplay. Why I can't stream TO my Iphone? Maybe I want to stream Musik to it or even video?! I still have to use Airfoil. I would love to see this as a native implementation.

Every capable :apple: device should include Macs! Why should we not be able to stream a video from our iDevice to a Mac for playback? Don't Macs have big screens than iDevices? (Granted, it should also work in the other direction, too.)

AirVideo quality is superior to Zumocast...but it only does video and it is much easier to find things (ie the User Interface is better) on Zumocast than Airvideo... but if razor sharp video is paramount, go with AirVideo.

While I haven't used Zumocast, I'm not sure how finding things could be that much easier than in AirVideo, as AirVideo simply presents you with the folder structure of the shared directory. While it's true that if you have all of your videos in that one folder, they'll be pretty hard to find, it's also true that you can easily set up a very sensible and easy to navigate structure making it relatively trivial to find anything you want. Also, when I spend about 30 seconds looking up what I want to watch, and then spend 45 minutes to 2 hours watching it, I think that the quality of the video will remain the higher priority, rather than the ease of looking things up.

That said, I'll take a look at Zumocast, just to see what I'm missing...
 
2011, Huh?

So, in 2011. Does that mean we have to wait until iOS 5 next summer?
 
Yeah, you'd think streaming stuff you shot yourself would stream - no brainer. Well hopefully that's coming like Steve said.

And while you are at it Apple, how about giving Mac OS X some streaming love? Why can't I throw my desktop screen over to an AppleTV and play anything I can see on my Mac screen over too it? (or at least let the Mac see it as an external monitor or something) Add that and I'll buy an AppleTV tomorrow!!! :D
 
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