Steve Jobs amongst America's Best Leaders

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USNews.com published a list of 25 individuals they've labeled as "America's Best Leaders".

The selection process took place by a committee convened by the Center for Public Leadership. The committee considered over 300 names during the selection process and came to this list.

Apple's Steve Jobs made the cut:

They rise to the occasion in times of political crisis, but truly transformational leaders who change the world for the better remain rare in business. Which is why Steve Jobs is so fascinating.
Other notable individuals in the technology sector include Bill Gates and Google founders (Larry Page and Sergey Brin).
 

supergod

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Hmmm... I like this new interface guys. very sleek.

I'm getting sick of all of these articles on the greatness of Jobs. We get it!
 

wdlove

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Congratulations to our Steve Jobs, he is very deserving of this honor. A very elite group indeed on that list. That is such an honor.
 

longofest

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ioinc said:
Top 25?

Wow... kind of questionable
You nuts? He only has pushed Apple into stratospheric numbers as far as sales go (and as far as Apple goes), and with it, he saved the Recording industry from their own destruction. Plus, he has Pixar, the ever-profitable and awesome picture studio that turns out great film after great film.

And I'm spent...
 

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Steve's Number One In My Book

I can't think of anyone better at leading than Steve. I'm not sure I understand why Bill is also included. He's really copying Steve as best he can with a bad vehicle in the first place. Google guys I agree are up there with Steve. But not at his level of innovation and charismatic influence over customers as well as his employees. :)
 

Zweben

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Jobs would make a crazy president.

He'd change random stuff for apparently no reason only to let us watch in awe as it fixes everything.
 

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Multimedia said:
I can't think of anyone better at leading than Steve. I'm not sure I understand why Bill is also included. He's really copying Steve as best he can with a bad vehicle in the first place. Google guys I agree are up there with Steve. But not at his level of innovation and charismatic influence over customers as well as his employees. :)
I'm not the biggest Gates fan myself, but I can see why he's included. He's one of the largest philanthropists in the world. The Gates foundation has provided some of the largest financial grants to various health organizations especially HIV/AIDS research.

w00master
 
Zweben said:
Jobs would make a crazy president.

He'd change random stuff for apparently no reason only to let us watch in awe as it fixes everything.
Steve would hold New Policy Tuesdays! He would get up on stage and do an elaborate Keynote on his tax policy complete with Turbotax eFiling demonstration!

There would be a new website www.policyrumors.com to discuss what was coming next, and a small group would always be claiming that the next policy would be new G5 powerbooks for all kids!

Instead of the state of the union MWSF would become the new stage for both new Apple products and new American policy!

Steve for 2008
 

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longofest said:
WHY does Gates get to share in this honor??? :mad:

(fyi... i know why, i'm just mad that it happened)
I find it amusing that when you click on "Bill Gates" the page shows up and his name appears as "Bill and Melinda Gates" as if "and Melinda" were his middle names. :rolleyes: They are doing a lot for charity though.

Good job on Steve Jobs!
 

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YAY STEVE! Now just up the size on the video ipods and lower the price by half lol. :p hey a guy can dream right lol
 

DavidLeblond

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WeBleed4Real said:
So who's going to start the Steve Jobs for President campaign?
Hmm, maybe not. He'd probably start off by firing all of New Mexico because it looked at him wrong. Then he'd apply special experimental laws to the western part of the US and tell them that they're better than the eastern part, causing another civil war.

Kidding of course, he's done an excellant job with Apple.
 

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w00master said:
I'm not the biggest Gates fan myself, but I can see why he's included. He's one of the largest philanthropists in the world. The Gates foundation has provided some of the largest financial grants to various health organizations especially HIV/AIDS research.

w00master
He may be a huge philanthropist, but how he made his fortune is what's questionnable.

Would you really praise the RIAA, the Mafia or the oil cartel if they went and did some good with their money?

Am I a good guy if I steal 1000$ from you and then give 500$ to the poor?

I'm not comparing him with these organizations, but his fortune, yes.
 

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Yvan256 said:
He may be a huge philanthropist, but how he made his fortune is what's questionnable.

Would you really praise the RIAA, the Mafia or the oil cartel if they went and did some good with their money?

Am I a good guy if I steal 1000$ from you and then give 500$ to the poor?

I'm not comparing him with these organizations, but his fortune, yes.
What is questionable about how he made his money?

I believe the overwhelming bulk of M$ revenue comes from Windows and Office.

Two programs that have increased the productivity for countless organizations.
 

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Zweben said:
Jobs would make a crazy president. He'd change random stuff for apparently no reason only to let us watch in awe as it fixes everything.
Kind of like Bush and Clinton but they weren't able to fix things...

I'll vote for Steve Jobs for CEO of America!
 

Yvan256

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ioinc said:
What is questionable about how he made his money?

I believe the overwhelming bulk of M$ revenue comes from Windows and Office.

Two programs that have increased the productivity for countless organizations.
Do a bit of research on how Windows and Office have became the-facto standards for organizations...

From MS-DOS to Windows Vista, it's always been either monopolistic practices, illegal practices, stolen ideas (if not stolen code), bankrupting the competition, locking out competition.

Microsoft shouldn't have their huge pile of money, and so shouldn't Bill.
 

ioinc

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Yvan256 said:
Do a bit of research on how Windows and Office have became the-facto standards for organizations...

From MS-DOS to Windows Vista, it's always been either monopolistic practices, illegal practices, stolen ideas (if not stolen code), bankrupting the competition, locking out competition.

Microsoft shouldn't have their huge pile of money, and so shouldn't Bill.
Without doing a ton of research I think Windows is an offshoot of a partnership that M$ had with IBM in the development of OS/2.

When that partnership fell apart M$ continued the development of Windows while IBM developed OS/2 2.0. The market chose windows over OS/2.

The fact that you had to buy an Apple machine to run a mac OS kept mac out of the game because of the increased price point (even though the Mac OS is clearly a better operation system).

Excel was initially developed my M$ (for the Mac) and when combined with Word became an unbeatable combination.

From what I can tell M$ did earn their huge pile of money.

What am I missing?
 

pubwvj

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w00master said:
I'm not the biggest Gates fan myself, but I can see why he's included. He's one of the largest philanthropists in the world.
Yes, so he bought his way into history like so many past criminals, er, I mean big industrialists, of the past. Rape, pillage, murder, unlease an insecure OS that costs the world billions and then buy your way into history by donating a tiny portion of your plunder. Good method! Workds every time.
 

Yvan256

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ioinc said:
From what I can tell M$ did earn their huge pile of money.

What am I missing?
All the illegal and immoral parts of their history... :rolleyes:

Not all of their history is bad, but most of it is.
 

DavidLeblond

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Come on, guys. I love my Mac, and I hate Microsoft. But to say they're criminals? Thats a stretch. Thats a big stretch.

Yeah they pretty much stabbed Apple in the back, but is that criminal? Is there Macintosh code floating around in Windows? Don't think so. Did they take a lot of Apple's ideas? Absolutely. Did Apple take a lot of Xerox's ideas? Absolutely. Should Xerox have been surprised that Apple took their ideas? Hell no. Should Apple have been surprised that Microsoft took THEIR ideas? Hell no.

If you say Microsoft is dirty, then you have to say Apple is as well. And PLEASE don't compare Microsoft to rapists. Thats just inane.
 

njmac

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longofest said:
WHY does Gates get to share in this honor??? :mad:

(fyi... i know why, i'm just mad that it happened)

He is not in the top 25 for his work at Microsoft. As a matter of fact, Microsoft only gets a passing mention.

It is for his work with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that earned him this spot.

On the other hand, Steve was honored for his work - almost exclusively his work at Apple. He is a corporate leader, a trend setter, a visionary.

I was also suprised that most of the recipients were born in the mid fifties.