I'm willing to agree with you on this. But, I also think that there isn't much reason for Dell to lie about it.
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Steve Jobs Asked Dell to Pre-Install Mac OS on PCs and Pay Hundreds of Millions in Royalties
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While Steve's reasoning made sense when Mac hardware sales were a huge component of Apple's profits, a strong argument could be made that Apple should do this right now. Apple no longer depends on Mac sales, and the Mac OS is a driver for Apple's other products and services. Doing this might also free up Apple to advance iPad OS without worrying that iPad might cannibalize the Mac.
I think it jives perfectly. Jobs wasn't opposed to licensing as a concept, he just wanted it on his own terms -- which at the time would have been far more favorable than what Apple was getting from the "clones."
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Intel got me to pre-order an 11900k. I won't fall for that twice.
He's not lying. Good god, why is everything have to be a conspiracy?
.......and the only reason anyone is talking about Dell is because he is talking about Steve Jobs. Speaks volumes. Dell is an assembler of parts that it doesn't make, makes a lot of money, good for him. Steve Jobs was a modern day Leonardo da Vinci.
The 10 year anniversary of Steve Jobs death took place earlier this week, sparking tech leaders to share their stories of Apple's former CEO.
Dell CEO Michael Dell spoke to CNET, reminiscing about the time that Steve Jobs aimed to get Dell to license Mac OS to run on Intel-based PCs and how that might have changed the PC industry.
As the story goes, Jobs first approached Dell about a partnership after being ousted from Apple and establishing NeXT. Jobs wanted Dell to use the NeXT operating system on Dell PCs, and he claimed that it was better than Windows.
Dell told Jobs that it wasn't going to happen because there were no applications for it and "zero customer interest."
After Jobs rejoined Apple, he once again attempted a software licensing deal, trying to get Dell to license Mac OS. At the time, Jobs pushed Dell by telling him PC buyers could choose between Apple's software or Microsoft Windows.Dell thought it was a good idea and wanted to pay Jobs a licensing fee for every PC sold with Mac OS, but Jobs was worried about PC sales cannibalizing Mac sales because PCs were cheaper. Jobs instead wanted Dell to load Mac OS alongside Windows on every PC, which would have cost Dell hundreds of millions in royalties.The royalty cost dissuaded Dell from the deal, as did the lack of a guarantee that Dell would continue to have access to Mac OS years in the future. Dell customers could be out of luck as the software evolved, with no way for Dell to offer support.
Dell said that had that deal gone through, "It could have changed the trajectory for Windows and Mac OS on PCs." In a 2005 interview, Dell said that if Apple "opened the Mac OS to others" Dell would be happy to offer it to customers, but that did not happen and Apple kept Mac OS exclusive to Macs.
Though a software deal was never reached, Dell said that he remained friends with Jobs over the years despite various arguments. Dell one time was asked what he'd do to fix Apple if he was CEO, and he said "I'd shut the company down and give money back to shareholders," which angered Jobs.
Jobs ultimately used the quote from Dell to motivate his team, which Dell respected. "I probably would've done much the same thing if I was in his position," Dell told CNET. "When the company you started is fighting for its life, you do whatever it takes."
Michael Dell's story about Mac OS X is featured in his newly published memoir, "Play Nice But Win," which also features stories of how he met Jobs, his infatuation with the Apple II, and how he developed a friendship with Jobs.
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Digging into the article, it seems like they were talking about licensing Mac OS X, which had run on x86 as NeXTStep, and which was released in both x86 and PPC developer betas in 2000, but only supported Apple-built PPC machines in the public release, up until Apple went Intel themselves years later, with the Intel build having been kept alive the whole time as project Marklar.
However, there was also a secret Classic Mac OS on Intel project called Star Trek, which was never released to the public, which got System 7.1 running on 386 machines in 1992 with the low-level components replaced by DR-DOS. It was, however, abandoned a year later and never supported future versions of the OS.
However, there was also a secret Classic Mac OS on Intel project called Star Trek, which was never released to the public, which got System 7.1 running on 386 machines in 1992 with the low-level components replaced by DR-DOS. It was, however, abandoned a year later and never supported future versions of the OS.
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Is that included Surface and chrome tablets?didn't miss anything, mac might have enticed many in the creative field, but in terms of corporate, mac has little to no footing.
The world’s second-most popular desktop operating system isn’t macOS anymore
Chrome OS’s rise in market share has been swift and decisive.
Yeah I call BS on Dell's story cause Michael kept dissing Jobs' return to Apple on BusinessWeek for the first few years. Also Apple and Sony were working on a possible deal when the developer got Mac OS X running on Intel hardware. Apple's patents (AltiVec patents) from the PowerPC consortium was an instant draw to Intel. Finally you've heard all of these stories before Steve passed and now Michael Dell is coming out with this BS.
Yes, just as crazy as Apple working with Microsoft to bring Office to the Mac, after years of fighting.
I’m curious. Just what do you win if you die with more money?
I don’t know what it’s like to die from terminal illness, but I’d like to imagine the legacy he left on the world put a smile on his face every now and then. Knowing that his company had put computing—something he was so passionate about—into the hands of the masses, in various forms no one thought imaginable before (MP3 players pre-iPod, smartphones pre-iPhone…literally any tablet besides the iPad, before or after its release…the MBA going from an extremely niche, underspec’d, overpriced product to being a go-to for college students and raising the standards for laptop portability industry-wide).
I’m not here to sh** on Michael Dell nor am I here to elevate Jobs to sainthood. The two are just entirely separate people, each with their own ethos. Dell has sold far higher units; Apple has sold far higher quality products. Simple as that. And it’s probably much for the better—on both ends—that this deal never worked out.
I don’t see exactly how could that be sustained long term… either Apple would have to play ball with third party manufacturers writing their drivers for macOS or Apple allowing macOS on Dell computers with a specific set of hardware combinations and requirements because else it would be exactly the same conundrum that current Windows PC devs have to fight (drivers and hardware support wise).
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Oh man, thanks for the good laugh. Comedy gold.
The "self-made entrepeneuer" is almost always a myth. No one builds a company of that size on their own. In Dell's case he got an early (though small) investment from his family, and shortly after he started his computer business brought in an experienced venture capitalist to be president and chief operating officer. Now there is nothing wrong with either of those things, and by all accounts Dell is a highly intelligent and hard working person who has done very well for himself, but success, especially of that magnitude is almost never a solo endeavor.
A good amount of Dell's current clients are enterprise (I type this while looking at a Dell monitor at my job hah), but was it also true back in the day where he is claiming this happened? If so, then yeah I agree it wouldn't have made a lot of sense back then. On the other hand, enterprise software these days for most tasks (especially non-engineering related) is cross platform or web based so the OS doesn't really matter in that regard, whatever lets the user be most productive. I work at a large enterprise company and we are a mix of Mac and PC, employees get to choose. It would be a huge benefit if they could manage only one set of devices instead of two while giving employees the ability to use whatever OS they prefer. Could be a missed opportunity.
Pretty sure the aggressive cancer is what did him in and humility would have played very little difference in that outcome sadly.