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A Dell running MacOS. I would have considered buying that. The worse thing about PCs, is Microsuk Windoze. I have never had a Windows update, far less an upgrade, go well.
 
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Thank god, every Dell machine we’ve had has been trash, their support is almost non existent, razer level.
 
This story doesn’t seem to add up.
The 2nd thing SJ did when returning back to Apple (after first firing most of the existing executives) was killing off all the clones. His quote, “they’re all bloodsuckers”.

This Dell story doesn’t seem to jive with history at all
Except here he would be making royalties on every computer Dell shipped whether the customer wanted to use Mac OS or not. So he would be getting royalties from every Windows customer Dell had.
 
Pretty sure the aggressive cancer is what did him in and humility would have played very little difference in that outcome sadly.
Jobs refused surgery that may have rid him of the cancer. He believed his body to be too sacred to be opened, so opted instead of alternate remedies. He believed too much in his reality distortion field that has served him so well prior, until it was too late. This was in his biography. Additional source.
 
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And guess who went on a vegan diet to cure his cancer…. Instead of listening to doctors he died
Was it a wise choice? No, it was stupid. Was it evidence of lack of humility? Maybe, maybe not. Would it have made a difference? Maybe. Even with treatment the 5 year survival odds for his type of cancer are only about 40%. While the outcome can be better if detected early, due to lack of symptoms the type Jobs had is rarely detected early and the average remaining lifetime for a patient who has his type of cancer is 5-10 years after diagnosis. Jobs lived for 8 years after his. Pancreatic cancer in general is unfortunately quite bad and one of the leading causes of cancer death in the US. So even if he had acted sooner it might not have mattered. Cancer sucks.

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Jobs refused surgery that may have rid him of the cancer. He believed his body to be too sacred to be opened, so opted instead of alternate remedies. He believed too much in his reality distortion field that has served him so well prior, until it was too late. This was in his biography. Additional source.

See above. I agree it was a stupid decision, but that doesn't mean he'd still be alive today if he'd acted sooner. It probably would have improved his odds, but they weren't that great to begin with unfortunately. Cancer sucks.
 
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It sounds like Dell is just trying to talk themselves up at the expense of Steve and Apple. I guess it is part of the price of being successful.
 
This story makes no sense when you consider Jobs' war on third-party Mac manufacturers, which he took up pretty much immediately upon becoming interim CEO. In fact, because Apple had existing deals to license any version of MacOS 7.x to those manufacturers, Jobs insisted that MacOS 7.7 become MacOS 8 so that they could kill all the licensing. Michael Dell has always been a grifter. Don't believe him.
I thought the same thing. I don't believe Dell for a second. He can say whatever he wants now that the Steve is no longer here.

I also question whether they were ever "friends." Jobs absolutely hated people who did boring, dumb stuff just to make a buck. That practically defines everything about Michael Dell and his entire company's history.
 
Pretty sure the aggressive cancer is what did him in and humility would have played very little difference in that outcome sadly.
Actually if he had the humility to listen to his doctors early on there is a good chance he would still be alive. Jobs had lots of great qualities, but his arrogance got in the way in numerous ways.

" Apple Inc co-founder Steve Jobs refused potentially life-saving cancer surgery for nine months, shrugging off his family’s protests and opting instead for alternative medicine, according to the tech visionary’s biographer."

His approach of challenging the expected path, because he knew better worked in favor plenty of times. But it definitely played a large role in death.
 
I call BS. There was strong animosity between those two. Michael Dell said Steve Jobs should sell off Apple and pay it out to the shareholders almost immediately after he came back as CEO. Later, when Apple passed Dell in Market Cap he sent an email to all employees about it. I strongly doubt this story.
 
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Actually if he had the humility to listen to his doctors early on there is a good chance he would still be alive. Jobs had lots of great qualities, but his arrogance got in the way in numerous ways.

" Apple Inc co-founder Steve Jobs refused potentially life-saving cancer surgery for nine months, shrugging off his family’s protests and opting instead for alternative medicine, according to the tech visionary’s biographer."

His approach of challenging the expected path, because he knew better worked in favor plenty of times. But it definitely played a large role in death.
As I mentioned in another thread, I agree his decision was a stupid one, but "good chance" he would still be alive is simply not true. The average lifetime for a patient after diagnosis of the type of cancer Jobs had is 5-10 years. The 5 year survival rate is about 40%. Pancreatic cancer is one of the leading causes of cancer death in the US. While earlier surgery would have almost certainly improved his odds, sadly it was still a major uphill battle to begin with. Due to the nature of that type of cancer its seldom detected early when its most treatable. We have no idea what stage it was at or how far it had spread by the time Jobs was diagnosed. In the end it may have made no difference at all, he'd probably still be dead today regardless of that decision, going by the numbers.

And its not necessarily due to lack of humility (though I again agree its very probable) that he choose to pursue alternative treatment first. There are "experts" who will recommend that too. That he listened to them instead of more mainstream doctors is, I believe, a stupid choice, but humans make stupid choices all the time and lack of humility is not the only reason to do so.
 
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A Dell running MacOS. I would have considered buying that. The worse thing about PCs, is Microsuk Windoze. I have never had a Windows update, far less an upgrade, go well.
You're doing it wrong then. Those of us who work in the PC world do it every day,, and Windows 10 is as good as it gets. It's so good that (like a Mac) I can clone Windows 10 from one PC to a new PC (dissimilar hardware) and get it up and running in minutes.

Everyone who complains about Windows either hasn't used it in 10 years or is "technically challenged" (not that it requires much to work with Windows).
 
To get a good Dell laptop you have to spend over $2500. The cheaper ones crap out at 18 months, especially if they have spinning hard drives. The percent lemons is running about 5-10%. And Dell will battle you to the ends of the earth to get a lemon replaced.
 
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Yes, just as crazy as Apple working with Microsoft to bring Office to the Mac, after years of fighting.
Except MS was about to lose the Quicktime lawsuit where code was copied and paste from QT to AVI for Windows (it even contained the same comments). Apple and MS settled out of court. Part of the settlement was the publicly disclosed $150 million, cross-sharing IP (up until 2012), MS Office (including IE) support until 2012 and an undisclosed amount that ranges from $500 million to $2 billion, depending on who you are talking to. Apple had full access to the Win32 API and one of the WINE developers once blogged about the new version of OS X (Lion) that had bindings to execute *.exe in the OS but was pointing to stubs. At the same time VMWare Fusion had a version that allowed OS X to run in a VM but never made it to market and was rumored that Jobs demo'ed it to VMWare and Parallels with the threat that if they released the OS X Guest VM capability Apple would release the 100% compatible Win32 layer. Note: you can run OS X VMs but it was never a feature offered by either.
 
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For disclosure, I work at Dell.

While I'd never use Windows for personal use, and thus a Dell computer, I do like Dell as a company and Michael Dell. He's not the innovator or exotic personality as some of the other "big names in IT", and while I have only met him in passing, he does seem like a nice guy.

I mean Dell did made lots of innovation in Supply Chain and management during its era. Cost optimisation and stock management before anyone in the PC industry knew anything about it. From an operation perspective they were a real innovator.
 
I mean Dell did made lots of innovation in Supply Chain and management during its era. Cost optimisation and stock management before anyone in the PC industry knew anything about it. From an operation perspective they were a real innovator.
And Tim Cook 1-up'ed him but reducing inventory lifespan to just 1 week or 2. He got the logistics so right that Apple was able to quickly turnaround and release a new model of a device with little to no overstock. **** like that was so bad in all the PC makers that they started to shove those crap outdated PCs to the consumer retail markets like Best Buy. Apple still had a warehouse in TX of beige Macs back when the iPhone came out in 2007.
 
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You misunderstand what the quote you posted is trying to say. Michael Dell's personal holdings in Dell is worth $40 billion. He's the 23rd wealthiest person in the world. Just for comparison, Jobs was worth only $10 billion when he died and Cook (though not an entrepreneur) is only worth $1.4 billion.
Chatbots don’t really “understand” as such. But they’re pretty good at content aggregation.
 
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Interesting story! I wonder why Jobs repeatedly picked Dell to propose partnerships like that. Maybe it was simply collegiality w Michael Dell.

Also interesting are the current market caps:
DELL - $81B
AAPL - $2.3T (trillion…with a T)
But that's not entirely a fair comparison...isn't Dell really only a computer company?

Meanwhile, Apple has been transitioning to more of a lifestyle brand/services company for a few years now.
 
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