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Steve Jobs Called Google's Vic Gundotra on a Sunday About This Icon

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With the news of Steve Jobs' resignation as CEO, several reaction pieces and stories have been circulating. One popular one is from Google's Vic Gundotra who posts an anecdote about Steve Jobs urgently calling him on a Sunday in January, 2008.
I laughed nervously. After all, while it was customary for Steve to call during the week upset about something, it was unusual for him to call me on Sunday and ask me to call his home. I wondered what was so important?

"So Vic, we have an urgent issue, one that I need addressed right away. I've already assigned someone from my team to help you, and I hope you can fix this tomorrow" said Steve. "I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg fix it tomorrow. Is that okay with you?"
The story was complimentary to Jobs, and Gundotra pointed out Jobs' attention to detail as a positive trait for a CEO:
But in the end, when I think about leadership, passion and attention to detail, I think back to the call I received from Steve Jobs on a Sunday morning in January. It was a lesson I'll never forget. CEOs should care about details. Even shades of yellow. On a Sunday.
Based on the date given, we determined that this was for Apple's 2008 Macworld San Francisco keynote speech which was delivered a week later by Steve Jobs. Jobs introduced webclips and custom home screen icons for the iPhone during that keynote. This was before the App Store was launched. The Google icon in question is pictured above.

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Northgrove

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Haha. While sounding crazy, it's also comforting to know that these products I use daily have every detail looked at. From the exact curvature of the corners of the iPad, the exact sloping "wedge" angle of a MacBook Air, down to this stuff!
 
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Yumunum

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Haha, that's so awesome. I totally relate to Jobs' mentality too... I can't STAND to see ugly software, hardware, whatever. And beauty is part of what makes Apple products what they are (not saying it's the only reason I buy them)
 
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Xeperu

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There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.

Let the hating commence!
 
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markfc

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Steve rules! Imagine being the engineer assigned to fix this on Monday morning!!
 
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MacBoobsPro

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I can see where he's coming from with this. Google create the icon, Apple overlays the shiny gradient thing automatically in the OS. If the orange is too light or the wrong colour the gradient will wash it out and will look weird negatively attracting the eye to it. It may look like 'Go gle' at first glance. You need this attention to detail, its why Apples products are so sort after.
 
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Steve rules! Imagine being the engineer assigned to fix this on Monday morning!!

This engineer was named in the post, and he appears to be the director of human interface at Apple.
http://www.jigsaw.com/scid7075483/greg_christie.xhtml?ver=5

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koruki

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I can see where he's coming from with this. Google create the icon, Apple overlays the shiny gradient thing automatically in the OS. If the orange is too light or the wrong colour the gradient will wash it out and will look weird negatively attracting the eye to it. It may look like 'Go gle' at first glance. You need this attention to detail, its why Apples products are so sort after.

You can turn off the shiny gradient in the app settings before doing the build so its clearly someone at google who thought it'd be ok to slide. :)
 
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The thing I love most about this story is that it shows a healthy working relationship on both sides of the fence. Too often some on here think of Apple vs Google, when in fact, both will have worked closely with one another. Its really heartening IMO to see this kind of relationship, where CEOs can talk to each other in order to resolve issues.
 
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j800r

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Some people dislike Steve or think he's an ass. What they don't realise is all the best business men are...well...a word I can't really say on here.
All those haters have no idea of the kind of person Steve REALLY is. From this post, the idea I get of Steve is a person who cares. The guy clearly puts his heart and soul into the company and when he is truly gone he will be missed beyond belief.

It was Steve who saved Apple and made them the company they are today. I wouldn't be typing on this particular iMac if Steve hadn't come back to Apple. I wouldn't be using OSX Lion. OSX wouldn't exist. In fact, if it wasn't for Steve Apple wouldn't exist at all. I, as a Mac user, owe much to him as I'm sure many of you also do.

On a side note, for the ones who call it OCD. It's that kind of OCD which resulted in the fantastic products you're now using.
 
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Whilst I know apple obviously functions without Steve as CEO, I think Tim cook wasn't the best choice as successor. It should quite clearly have been Greg.
 
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Claudius2k

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Keep thinking about Antennagate and the iPhone 4. When was that, over a year ago? Steve insisted it was a non-issue while the instigators predicted the death of the iPhone 4. Even Consumers Reports lined up against the wildly popular phone. All I can say is, one heck of a lot of iPhone 4's had been sold to happy campers since then. I am one of them. Guess Steve was right and they were wrong after all, huh? :)
 
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There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.
Many designers would call it attention to detail.

I see from your previous posts that you're into photography. I'm sure you've analyzed and critiqued many of your own photos. If you planned on submitting a photograph to a magazine or contest, wouldn't you try to make sure everything was the best it could be?

Given your relatively nice posts on the forum and the fact that you run your own business, I find it odd that you choose to openly question a successful businessman on his methods.
 
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GenesisST

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There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.

Let the hating commence!

Funny I just watched an episode of Monk last night... :)

I would tend to agree to some level. Unless you are a paramedic, doctor, cop, firemen, etc there isn't much that is truly that important, really.

The ****ing O could have waited.

Edit: Can we just agree that this can be seen as a flaw to some and as a quality to others. We are 7 ****ing billons people on this planet, we can't share all the same values. (AKA I hate the voting system)
 
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nicroma

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And now it's that goofy blue "g"...

Also the iGoogle logo is a green "i" which still hasn't been updated to a Retina icon, but if you add a home screen bookmark to the Youtube website, it has a Retina icon. Google still needs to try harder and aim for the attention to detail that Steve was talking about.
 
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*LTD*

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Classic Steve.

It is exactly this that separates Apple from the utter junk out there.

Apple has an obsession with their own products. I ceertainly hope this continues.

There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.

Here's 1997.

http://www.magazine.org/ASSETS/FB3E53577D7F42CAB9D5053CE35804A7/33b.jpg

Here's today.


http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exxon-market-cap-2011-8

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-05-27/business/21455982_1_ipod-media-players-apple-share

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/19/apple-reports-record-breaking-q3-2011/

Any questions?
 
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jll62

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You can turn off the shiny gradient in the app settings before doing the build so its clearly someone at google who thought it'd be ok to slide. :)

This story predates the release of the then iPhone SDK. The story is talking about icons that appear when adding web pages to the home screen, so the pre-rendered icon stuff available in the SDK doesn't apply.
 
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till213

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So we have resolved that ugly yellow.

Can we go on now and resolve all these other ugly icons in the Lion Finder?! And please make this unspeakable "real world" appearance from iCal / Address Book go away!

Please have this fixed by Monday. Thank you.

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Any questions?

Hell yeah: can we now get our matte displays back? The glossy ones suck big time!
 
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mmafighter

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this is awesome.

this just goes to show how dedicated steve was to his product. Im glad he pays attention to detail. It makes me feel that the product i buy, is worth every $$$ i pay for. And to the person that said OCD is the problem, i think your opinion has no foundation and is completely idiotic.
what is the world coming to when we see a CEO paying attention to the smallest things... hmmmm (sarcasm). This is exactly why we need CEO to pay attention (e.g. sony, google, samsun, FACEBOOK)

Its like a CEO picking up the paper towels in a restroom because it was somewhat dirty, and he knew maintenance was currently on another job...so he goes out of his way and does it himself.. PRICELESS humility anyone??
 
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Gasu E.

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There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.

Let the hating commence!

Your distaste for anyone different from your narrow vision of "normal" is shining through. OCD is a personality characteristic that is neither good nor bad in and of itself. It may make life more challenging for some who possess it; but, when it translates into something like "attention to detail", it can be beneficial as well.

Steve's OCD has brought joy to hundreds of millions, and financial benefit to hundreds of thousands. I'd be interested in hearing from the people who want to dismiss Steve's OCD as some kind of flaw: please tell us about your own personality quirks, and how the world has gained from these.
 
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