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A real problem (for some), but yes, it has been misstated and sensationalized in the press (just as Apple has themselves minimized it).

FWIW, I’ve been testing mine, and, holding it “that way” (even lightly) will sometimes, in some places (not all that rare) cause several bars to drop on the meter. And sometimes not.

But even when I’m getting one measly bar, I’m able to hold a call without dropping, and good quality, and use 3G Internet at the same time. In fact, I saw bars dropping and squeezed hard, then walked around the “bad spot” trying to make the connection drop. I couldn’t—Google Maps kept streaming and the call kept going.

So I agree with reports that when bars are low, the iPhone 4 acts the same as an earlier phone with more bars. A BETTER antenna design—but not in every way.

(Of course, with the new meter we’ll all be seeing less bars. Having my calls work is what I care about though. And my iPhone 4 has done great at that so far.)


While you're waiting for Apple to come up with a fix (if ever they come up with one), why don't you hold it in a way so it doesn't drop your calls...

People change their grip by habit, with their mind on the call, not on babying the phone. New habits take time before they’re 100%. I notice myself holding my phone all KINDS of ways—it’s not on purpose. And shouldn’t have to be—but any phone has spots where holding it a certain way matters, and the iPhone 4 probably more so than most.
 
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I did. That's why I was at Apple. Problem still exists. Had dropped calls with this one today. Can't imagine not having an iPhone. Wait to see what will be announced. I would likely go back to 3GS with iOS4.

Do you keep dropping calls when you hold it with your left hand (lower left corner of your phone)? If so, then why do you insist on holding your phone that way when you know for a fact that it's the reason why you keep dropping calls?

While you're waiting for Apple to come up with a fix (if ever they come up with one), why don't you hold it in a way so it doesn't drop your calls...

You could work for Apple
 
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I have one that is dropping calls 1/4 of the time. Was at Apple store. An employee there bought a bumper for his. He sounded frustrated over the dropped calls. You fanboys got to come up with something more that people are morons or whining over it. I assure you this issue is quite real.

Out of curiosity did you have a case on your iPhone 4 when you had all of these dropped calls?
 
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I have one that is dropping calls 1/4 of the time. Was at Apple store. An employee there bought a bumper for his. He sounded frustrated over the dropped calls. You fanboys got to come up with something more that people are morons or whining over it. I assure you this issue is quite real.

Out of curiosity did you have a case on your iPhone 4 when you had all of these dropped calls?

No. Don't want one. They look ridiculous.
 
Returned my iPhone 4 for reception issues

The Death Grip is not a myth. I can hold my phone for 20 seconds or so and lose all signal all the way from 5 bars. On top of that, I've had issues importing photos on the phone into iPhone. This is also my second iPhone 4 this month due to said issues.

I just returned my iPhone 4 and got a full refund.

If Apple says there is not an issue, then they have their heads up their a$$es.

PatF
 
The Death Grip is not a myth. I can hold my phone for 20 seconds or so and lose all signal all the way from 5 bars. On top of that, I've had issues importing photos on the phone into iPhone. This is also my second iPhone 4 this month due to said issues.

I just returned my iPhone 4 and got a full refund.

If Apple says there is not an issue, then they have their heads up their a$$es.

PatF

BTW, I have always held my phones in the Death Grip fashion. My hearing is much better on my left ear, I can't listen with my right, neither can my sister who is deaf in her right ear.

I have consistently had dropped calls with the way I hold it. I am NOT going to hold it "Different" because of a design flaw. I hold it tight to my left ear (I'm a rightie) and I hold it covering the part people are saying you are not supposed to hold it. Why? Because that is most comfortable for me and the way I have always held it.

You know, this whole iPhone 4 things has been a debacle. The lost phone, the search of a person's computer and home because of it, no iPhone 4 WHITE news, the crappy rollout, the lack of phones and news. The iPhoto problem. It's just tainted any good feelings I've had for the iPhone 4.

On top of that, I HATE the boxy feel of the phone. It's hard to hold and does not fit comfortably and you never know which side is which.

I'm happy with my 3GS now and I'm glad I did not sell it!

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I hope they touch on the proximity sensor too, but I have a feeling its going to be about the antenna only.

Me too. I honestly think the proximity sensor is a bigger issue, in a way, because there IS a remedy (though some don't like it) by using a case. Whereas the proximity sensor is what it is, and we're powerless to fix it, or remedy it unless Apple recognizes, addresses it, and fixes it. But with all the attention to the antenna, I'm afraid the proximity sensor stuff is (for now) slipping thru the cracks.

Apple would be the heroes if they address this tomorrow. They'd do themselves a favor to be the first to make it widely known, then to have it become phase two in iPhonegate.
 
I don't post here much and don't want to get caught up too much in the hoopla but here is our point of view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMGQN2R9UE

I'm not posting a youtube file for self promotion or anything as it's the only video I've ever posted on youtube but it's a crappy made comparison of my 3GS and my wifes 4.

The video's are not altered in any way and they happen to match timing exactly which was cool... Neither phone will completely drop and they are done in my home recliner where we have 100% reception always.

Read the description to the video if you want to know my thoughts I guess : )
 
I don't post here much and don't want to get caught up too much in the hoopla but here is our point of view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMGQN2R9UE

I'm not posting a youtube file for self promotion or anything as it's the only video I've ever posted on youtube but it's a crappy made comparison of my 3GS and my wifes 4.

The video's are not altered in any way and they happen to match timing exactly which was cool... Neither phone will completely drop and they are done in my home recliner where we have 100% reception always.

Read the description to the video if you want to know my thoughts I guess : )


FYI, You're description states both the 3gs and Ip4 are on the right.
 
rotten apples

rotten apples.. still cant wait to get mine (if it ever gets off backorder.) hope they will make it right with a trade in deal if/when they manufacture with a "fix" to the problem.
 
Sigh

Which is why he said he is either delusional OR a liar. Basically he is blowing smoke up everybody's ***. You can't deny that there is a signal issue. It is very easily reproduced. Also it is not just the bars, but a lot of times the call will get choppy or drop. Then when you take your fingers off it is clear as a crystal.

Some people are having it happen but not me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7O7m6Q6oU
 
You know what I would tell Steve Jobs, to shut the <insert> up. Real world testing is different than the professional developer testing they did. It's a huge problem and SJ is trying to downplay it. Well after Consumer Reports denying supporting the product, Apple is in the real <insert>hole with the iPhone 4. I don't know about you guys but I am tired of all of Steve Jobs snide remarks and responses to a huge problem.

I can hear it now from whoever is speaking tomorrow.

"You guys need to shut up. Steve Jobs told you to hold it differently or put case on it, SO DO IT!"

*Walks off stage*

That's what I predict will happen.
 
Jobs doesn't deny the problem. He just said the facts are different than being reported and earlier acknowledged that how you hold it affects the signal. Learn to read, people.
 
Jobs doesn't deny the problem. He just said the facts are different than being reported and earlier acknowledged that how you hold it affects the signal. Learn to read, people.

THANK YOU!

Someone with reading comprehension!
 
First, let me say that I think that there is a big issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and I do think that Apple should do a recall (a voluntary one). I also think that Apple did a bad job handling the situation.

That being said don't you think that there was indeed a misrepresentation of the signal strength going in on with iOS 4.0 that was fixed with 4.0.1 that was exaggerating the problem? What if people that were able to go from 5 bars to 0 simply by touching the "forbidden place" were actually supposed to see 2/3 bars dropping to 0 instead?

Despite all the mistakes Apple made in this iPhone 4 snafu, I think it's fair that they address the fact that the problem was exaggerated by a misrepresentation of signal bars. (assuming that it's a fact)

What if you made a mistake and something made it look much worse than it is, wouldn't you want to show everyone that it's not as bad as it looked like? Even if it's your fault and that the mistake is still bad in itself?
 
Me too. I honestly think the proximity sensor is a bigger issue, in a way, because there IS a remedy (though some don't like it) by using a case. Whereas the proximity sensor is what it is, and we're powerless to fix it, or remedy it unless Apple recognizes, addresses it, and fixes it. But with all the attention to the antenna, I'm afraid the proximity sensor stuff is (for now) slipping thru the cracks.

Apple would be the heroes if they address this tomorrow. They'd do themselves a favor to be the first to make it widely known, then to have it become phase two in iPhonegate.

You know, I still don't understand why people with the proximity sensor aren't just exchanging their phones. No one will explain this to me.

I don't disbelieve you have a problem with yours. And I totally agree that it sounds like a much more obnoxious problem than the antenna issue. But I do believe it's a defective phone. Cause every iphone 4 I've come across (mine, my roommate's, my mom's) does not have this issue! And it's not like the antenna issue where your experience may vary depending on location so I don't buy some arguement that mine has it and I don't know it (how would I not know it? I would have accidentally hit a button by now).
 
The worst part for myself is the death grip forced Apple to modify the bars displayed.

Turns-out, I've had awful AT&T service for years :(

I saw 5 bars for two minutes today after driving for two hours.
 
I agree, 100% i know didn't have the problem.

Paranoia, forums doing this crazy things. Some models sure have this problem and must be fixed in an Apple Store but not all and especially ith problem happens only in some conditions.
 
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