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Purchase to iTunes on a computer and then stream to the :apple:tv I would assume. To be completely honest, even $99 for this thing seems a bit steep.

Its better than an airport express for streaming since the express only streams audio. Of course if you need the express to be your router too then that is another issue.
 
NBC & VIACOM are idiots

The recent comments from NBC and Viacom put the future of this model of tv in question. Hopefully Apple has a backup plan in place to allow purchases from a device with no onboard storage.

I'm happy with the 1st gen tv until Apple sorts out the future of this hobby.



I live and work in Hollywood, and as of today, the same idiot who declined cheap and easy rentals was also told he would be fired in January - Jeff Zucker, the moron who ruined NBC.

(Of course, he will be fired with about a $50 million severance package. Yet another example if the idiocy that rules NBC/Universal.)

Anyhow, these morons are just setting themselves up for more piracy and crappy retail sales - and not just becuase the shows they make no one really wants to see. Media needs to be easy, almost passive, and the majority of consumer will actually pay for it. Make it hard, and most people won't bother to watch and those that will, will pirate it.

NBC is the creator of their own mediocrity. A simple thing like not joining AppleTV is just another example of it.
 
i can just imagine how many people would email him with unimportant crap just so they could say "hey, i got an email from steve jobs"

Which is why I believe none of these emails actually come from him. That's not the way corporations work. The CEOs of companies have multiple secretaries (personal assistants depending on your area in the world) who first filter his emails and action stuff for him (and respond to the majority of his emails pretending to be him). The number he would actually see, given his busy schedule, is most likely a fraction of the number he gets. I believe any emails like this would be handled by a dedicated PR staffer. He's a busy man running the second largest (market value) company in the world, and simply does not have the time to spend sending emails to people asking questions about their orders.
 
The recent comments from NBC and Viacom put the future of this model of tv in question. Hopefully Apple has a backup plan in place to allow purchases from a device with no onboard storage.

I'm happy with the 1st gen tv until Apple sorts out the future of this hobby.

Yup, it's called iTunes (on your mac or pc) - download/purchase/import anything you want and stream it to the apple TV. Apple won't give up - these are exactly the same issues in the early days of the music store.

Producers have to realise that they either make content readily available for download at a reasonable price, or people will find their own ways of getting the content, which normally result in loss of income for the studio.

I see no reason to wait for anything - any changes to this device over the coming year/18 months are going to be software based, and those won't be coming to the first gen.
 
I would hate to be Steve getting emails like this.

If Apple would just put out a press statement/blog entry/whatever about what exactly those emails meant that where sent out a couple days ago about not being able to meet the deadline ... there wouldn't be so much guessing going on. Steve is the one in charge of changing the PR strategy of Apple ..

T.
 
Does anyone seriously think Steve Jobs is reading each one of those emails and replying? Really ?

At best the PR department that reads them forward the odd one or two to him, but more likely they just send replies themselves "from Steve Jobs".
 
So a one word post is against the forum rules but a supposed, one word email from Steve Jobs is page one news. LOLz.
 
Didn't Steve say "it's a little rude" for the receiver to post the email you got from him all over the internet.
 
Just of note, apple tried to charge my cc yesterday for appletv, it was declined cause I had not updated to my new card, luckily they let me go in and fix it instead of canceling the order....... Should mean shipping is pretty eminent
 
Didn't Steve say "it's a little rude" for the receiver to post the email you got from him all over the internet.

LOL but he knows without a doubt in his mind it's going to happen. It's exciting and informative. Maybe other people just brush it off but I'd be pretty stoked if I got an email from Jobs and would definitely share it with you guys.
 
Yup, it's called iTunes (on your mac or pc) - download/purchase/import anything you want and stream it to the apple TV. Apple won't give up - these are exactly the same issues in the early days of the music store.

Producers have to realise that they either make content readily available for download at a reasonable price, or people will find their own ways of getting the content, which normally result in loss of income for the studio.

I see no reason to wait for anything - any changes to this device over the coming year/18 months are going to be software based, and those won't be coming to the first gen.


The problem is that the Apple TV is seen as a convenient thing. Now it's even less convenient to watch video content (that's purchase-only) from iTunes on the Apple TV, because you have to first purchase and download to your PC then stream it over the network to the Apple TV, leaving your computer running the whole time.

Not only is that less convenient, it also wastes a ton more energy than the previous Apple TV, which at least had the option to buy content and stream immediately.

I wouldn't mind this whole "only Fox and ABC are allowing rentals" thing if the Apple TV 2 was still capable of purchase-and-stream, but leave the downloads in the iTunes queue so that they're pulled down next time the program is opened. It's really the only logical way to avoid the ATV2's launch being a complete and utter failure, yet all signs point to that not being the case.
 
Producers have to realise that they either make content readily available for download at a reasonable price, or people will find their own ways of getting the content, which normally result in loss of income for the studio.

I think the it's Apple this time who's missing the boat of "Reasonable price". Seriously, 0.99$ for each episode to only rent it ? Amazons offers 0.99$ episode purchases. Netflix offers flat monthly rates. There's no wonder why people are looking at the Apple option and are left wondering what it is exactly Apple is trying to achieve by pricing their offering so high.

The 1080p Roku box for 99$ that streams off Amazon VOD and Netflix seems like a much better deal. Even better would be things like Boxee Box with full DLNA support or other DLNA streamers like Xbox Arcade or PS3 Slim that also do the Netflix thing. Really all Apple has going for it in this case is their brand and name. They are outpriced or outfeatured or both by the rest of the industry on this one.
 
Which is why I believe none of these emails actually come from him. That's not the way corporations work. The CEOs of companies have multiple secretaries (personal assistants depending on your area in the world) who first filter his emails and action stuff for him (and respond to the majority of his emails pretending to be him). The number he would actually see, given his busy schedule, is most likely a fraction of the number he gets. I believe any emails like this would be handled by a dedicated PR staffer. He's a busy man running the second largest (market value) company in the world, and simply does not have the time to spend sending emails to people asking questions about their orders.

Exactly -- been waiting for someone to say this.
 
HAHAHAHAHA!

I love it. His short and to the point answers can make you laugh or get very irritated. I still love ol Steve-o. :D
 
In-Store Date

Has anyone heard if and when the new Apple TV will be able to be bought in-store? I orded mine yesterday and it said I will get it around Oct, 21th. I really don't want to wait that long! AND there is an Apple store that is having it's grand opening today about 30 mins from me, so it would give me a reason to go see the new store! :D
 
The problem is that the Apple TV is seen as a convenient thing. Now it's even less convenient to watch video content (that's purchase-only) from iTunes on the Apple TV, because you have to first purchase and download to your PC then stream it over the network to the Apple TV, leaving your computer running the whole time.

I would say it is slightly less convenient but makes the device whole lot cheaper. This is the tradeoff. Personally, I have rarely actually purchased any content on the device itself. I do it through iTunes and let it sync.

As for streaming, it is pretty much transparent on the Apple TV. Your whole library appears on Apple TV just as if the content was sitting local on the hard drive. Many times I have played content which was streamed and didn't even realize it.

I do agree with regard to energy use but it still goes back to the tradeoff that is made. I do believe someday future Apple TVs will have enough flash storage on them to provide some local storage capability. I do have a 2TB external drive I keep all of my iTunes content on and it works very well to store my movies, music, and tv shows.

I do love my original Apple TV although I do think for alot of people it was too expensive, especially since most people don't know what it is. Most people I talk to have no clue as to what it does and furthermore they won't pay $229 to try it out.
 
Saw the news on Viacom and NBC... my thoughts are what are they thinking? 99 cent rentals - 22 episodes that can only be viewed once?

May take us as consumers to just say no to NBC and Viacom - period....


Good. I'm not the only one who thought this way. The greed and lack of acceptance of their future from these guys is nothing short of amazing to me.
 
I live and work in Hollywood, and as of today, the same idiot who declined cheap and easy rentals was also told he would be fired in January - Jeff Zucker, the moron who ruined NBC.

(Of course, he will be fired with about a $50 million severance package. Yet another example if the idiocy that rules NBC/Universal.)

Anyhow, these morons are just setting themselves up for more piracy and crappy retail sales - and not just becuase the shows they make no one really wants to see. Media needs to be easy, almost passive, and the majority of consumer will actually pay for it. Make it hard, and most people won't bother to watch and those that will, will pirate it.

NBC is the creator of their own mediocrity. A simple thing like not joining AppleTV is just another example of it.

That's the thing too, that I just can't comprehend. Advertisement and DVD sales are the primary forms of income. But, guess what, fewer people buy DVDs. Why buy physical copies of media loaded with ads, when you can much more easily pirate it? As another person working in the film industry, I abstain from piracy (some material deserves to be paid for), which makes my selection of television and movies very limited. I will not buy a show if it is not one I have priorly seen. This is why the rental service applies extremely well to not just me, but everyone else. These "morons" are in fact morons. DVDs are bought by such rental services as Blockbuster and Netflix. There's no comparison. Rentals with income going back to film studios, or rentals with income going back to rental companies. Virtual media is the future, yet the morons just can't let go.
 
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