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Siri is very useful all the time!! Driving and wanna hear a message just ask!! Setting timers when cooking and hands tied up just ask.
Setting alarms without having to unlock,find clock app, open it,choose alarm,set the alarm to the time you want, exit app.
Instead ask Siri and for me she understands what I'm trying to say 90% of the time!!
 
We know it. Get your tinfoil hat on and read what I've have to say next.
Every company does it. The only thing is Apple isn't an ad company so I don't have to worry about my info being sold to marketers or being used to serve me "personalized" ads. Apple can keep my info in order to develop their products better instead of serving me ads. Hell they already have my credit card info. If people are ok with using Google's products knowing Google is in advertisement business, I think they'll be fine with Apple's policies.

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I did hence why I said it's faster. 6 secs to 13 secs. So by 50% it's faster for me. How slow do you speak bro?

kaleb...have you heard of iAds? You know that Apple has an ad-deployment / ad-selling mechanism in iOS, right?
 
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So Siri is a girls name and Steve Jobs hated it. So why do we in the uk have a male voice? Obviously it doesn't mean the same thing.
 
the name i dont mind...

what i mind is siri going off in "silent mode" during class..

WTF is wrong with that.. why cant siri be silenced!?
 
kaleb...have you heard of iAds? You know that Apple has an ad-deployment / ad-selling mechanism in iOS, right?

That doesn't mean they're an ad company. You know Apple doesn't sell ads to the users from iAds right? Ever seen ads in your free software developed from Apple?
 
kaleb...have you heard of iAds? You know that Apple has an ad-deployment / ad-selling mechanism in iOS, right?

Correct.
I wonder where they get all this personal data for marketting.... :D

iAd reaches millions of iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users around the world in their favorite apps. With the iAd Network, you can reach the Apple audience, the world’s most engaged, influential and loyal consumers.

Our highly-effective targeting can leverage demographic data, as well as unique interest and preference data that taps into user passions

http://advertising.apple.com/brands/
 
Using it consistently and functionally daily over an extended period of time.

Tony

Ok, so I guess I 'don't use' the following apps:
Calculator (I don't usually need it more than once a week or so)
Contacts (I've got everybody I need in it right now, so I don't use it much)
Camera (I don't take pictures with my phone every day)
Photos (I don't browse the pictures on my phone more than once every few weeks)
Phone (This is closer, but I know there's days, weeks even, that I haven't used it.)

If 'using' something requires 'using' it consistently and functionally daily over an extended period of time, then nobody can 'use' anything because they can't have 'used' it at all until they've already 'used' it *consistently and functionally over an extended period of time*.

Personally, I use Siri most often to add things to my grocery list, or set reminders. I don't need to do that every day, so I don't need to use Siri every day. If using a tool means you have to use it every day, then I know professional *carpenters* who 'don't use' a hammer.
 
You do realize Apple doesn't actually sell ads right? iAds is a platform for developers to sell ads. Not Apple. They make money from the money devs make from their ads that they serve to users.

Post a screenshot of these "ads" you got served by Apple.

And who do you think Apple sells your personal information gathered from Siri?
...subsidiaries’ and agents’ ...

Don't try to act like Apple keeps all your personal info to themselves.
They make money with it by selling it.


When you use Siri, the things you say will be recorded and sent to Apple to process your requests. Your device will also send Apple other information, such as your first name and nickname; the names, nicknames, and relationship with you (e.g., “my dad”) of your address book contacts; and song names in your collection (collectively, your “User Data”). All of this data is used to help Siri understand you better and recognize what you say. It is not linked to other data that Apple may have from your use of other Apple services. By using Siri, you agree and consent to Apple’s and its subsidiaries’ and agents’ transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of this information, including your voice input and User Data, to provide and improve Siri and other Apple products and services.

http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iphone4s.pdf.
 
Ok, so I guess I 'don't use' the following apps:
Calculator (I don't usually need it more than once a week or so)
Contacts (I've got everybody I need in it right now, so I don't use it much)
Camera (I don't take pictures with my phone every day)
Photos (I don't browse the pictures on my phone more than once every few weeks)
Phone (This is closer, but I know there's days, weeks even, that I haven't used it.)

If 'using' something requires 'using' it consistently and functionally daily over an extended period of time, then nobody can 'use' anything because they can't have 'used' it at all until they've already 'used' it *consistently and functionally over an extended period of time*.

Personally, I use Siri most often to add things to my grocery list, or set reminders. I don't need to do that every day, so I don't need to use Siri every day. If using a tool means you have to use it every day, then I know professional *carpenters* who 'don't use' a hammer.

The difference here is that another application isn't being promoted to already do the same exact thing. A better example would be another camera app that offers the same exact functionality, except you say "take a picture" instead of just clicking the button. The Siri app is generally worthless outside of a small population. I'm not going to stand in line waiting for a coffee, talking to my phone. Scheduling appointments with everyone listening in. I'll click on the date in an email and add to my calendar like I normally do.
 
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Siri Inc., who created the commercial version, was a spin-off of the non-profit research group SRI International. Thus, "SiRI".

SRI International used to be known as the Stanford Research Institute, which was begun at the end of WW-II, and later became independent of the university.

Which proves to me unequivocally that the story about the naming of Siri is total BS.
 
Every company does it. The only thing is Apple isn't an ad company so I don't have to worry about my info being sold to marketers or being used to serve me "personalized" ads. Apple can keep my info in order to develop their products better instead of serving me ads.

On the contrary, just like Google, Apple uses what it knows about you to sell iAd placements.

Apple markets the anonymous use of our demographics, music, video and app tastes, and location to sell targeted ad placements.

If anything, Apple probably has even more useful personal info to mine than Google does, because of iTunes.

You do realize Apple doesn't actually sell ads right? iAds is a platform for developers to sell ads. Not Apple. They make money from the money devs make from their ads that they serve to users.

Apple is the one who sells iAd placement to companies. They originally required a minimum 1 million dollar campaign. Over time, due to a lack of demand and ad return, that has now dropped to a $100,000 minimum. They charge advertisers abour $10 per thousand views (they used to also charge $2 per click, but that also just got dropped).

When an app requests an ad to display, Apple's iAd server uses its information about the user to pick a supplied ad that makes sense (and IIRC they store which ad they served you for about a month so they won't repeat it right away).

Out of the ad money that Apple receives, they now kick back 70% (used to be 60%) to the developer who hosts the ad.

In other words, every time an app displays an ad from Apple's iAd server, Apple gets about 1 cent ($0.01) from the advertiser... out of which Apple kicks back 0.7 cents ($0.007) to the host app developer.
 
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I find the comment "he talked about why Apple was going to win" disturbing.

Should've called it Majel.
 
Should've called it Majel.

There are rumors that Google's answer to Siri is codenamed Majel:

"Google’s Matias Duarte had previously given hints about the future of Android’s voice actions in an interview with Slashgear. Matias said, “Our approach is more like Star Trek, right, starship Enterprise; every piece of computing surface, everything is voice-aware. It’s not that there’s a personality, it doesn’t have a name, it’s just Computer.”
 
Using it consistently and functionally daily over an extended period of time.

Tony

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Nope - I'm saying that inputing something via VOICE that has to be INTERPRETED and acted upon by something independent of your own mind is not efficient. I'm not talking about voice dictation because that's not was Siri is supposed to be. It has nothing to do with other electronics. Your pen and paper analogy is totally irrelevant. :rolleyes:

Tony

Clearly, the fact that others are using it frequently does not cancel out that Siri is a toy, for you. What you fail to see is that it is not an issue of advantage over mechanical input. It is an issue of advantage over mechanical input when the latter is impractical, say, while driving or walking (which speaks to the nature of a mobile device. It's not supposed to be used for everything. And the app easily exceeds the "toy" factor when being able to use it for something important. I think you need to look in the dictionary for the definition of the word "toy", because it does not apply to Siri in an absolute sense as your posts have implied.
 
Clearly, the fact that others are using it frequently does not cancel out that Siri is a toy, for you. What you fail to see is that it is not an issue of advantage over mechanical input. It is an issue of advantage over mechanical input when the latter is impractical, say, while driving or walking (which speaks to the nature of a mobile device. It's not supposed to be used for everything. And the app easily exceeds the "toy" factor when being able to use it for something important. I think you need to look in the dictionary for the definition of the word "toy", because it does not apply to Siri in an absolute sense as your posts have implied.
Definition 2a sums up Siri.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toy
 
Siri means 'ass' in Japanese so you can see where he's coming from... Absolute trademark Steve Jobs :D

Actually it's 'shiri'. Most japanese can't pronounce 'see-ree' naturally and will fall back to 'shiri', but that's hardly Apple's fault.
 
Siri means 'ass' in Japanese so you can see where he's coming from... Absolute trademark Steve Jobs :D

So you could use it in a sentence like this
"Kim Kardashian has a nice Siri"?


EDIT: posted right after the shiri vs. siri correction!
 
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The things it does will always be easier and quicker and much more accurately to do by other means. Siri is just a toy.
Prior to Siri, I rarely used tasks or reminders. With the combination of geofencing and Siri, I now use them daily. And the workflow of adding new ones is much quicker with Siri compared to interacting with the app directly.

Steps with Siri:

1. Remove phone from pocket
2. Press and hold button
3. "Remind me about blah when I get home"
4. "Confirm" after a short delay

Compare to:
1. Remove phone from pocket
2. Press button
3. Enter PIN
4. Locate app (may be on a different page, or I need to close the previous app first)
5. Tap plus
6. Type in reminder
7. Tap reminder
8. Tap Remind me...
9. Tap at a location
10. Tap location field
11. Tap home
12. Tap remind me back button
13. Tap When I arrive
14. Tap done (for the geofence)
15. Tap done (for the reminder)

How is the second workflow quicker or better then the Siri one?
 
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