Steve Jobs Envisioned the iPad in 1983

[gotluck]

hitler would be a good example of the above

 

[kdarling]

After that speech, he had a question-and-answer session that covered a wide range of topics, one of which was an incredibly detailed assessment of Jobs' vision for a "computer in a book" that one could learn how to use in 20 minutes.

Well, I finally found some time to listen to the tape myself. It wasn't at all what people are making it out to be.

Couldn't a "computer in a book" technically be a laptop also? How do we know he meant a tablet?

(I didn't read the full thing, only what was on this front page. If he went into further detail about a touch screen and such then forget what I'm saying now. But as far as a "wireless computer in a book" - wouldn't that technically be a laptop? Or a "notebook computer?")

Well, it turns out that you were pretty much on target. Jobs was actually talking about putting THE LISA in a book form.

Here Is What Jobs Said:

"Apple's strategy is really simple. What we want to do, is we want to put an incredibly great computer in a book that you can carry around with you, that you can learn how to use in 20 minutes.

"That's what we want to do and we want to do it this decade, And we really want to do it with a radio link in it, so you don't have to hook up to anything to be in communication with all of these larger databases and other computers.

"We don't know how to do this right now, it's impossible technically, so we had three options:

"One was to do nothing, and we're all pretty young and impatient, so that was not a good option.

"The second one was to put a piece of garbage computer into a book. And we can do that, but our competitors are doing that, so we don't have to do that. (crowd laughter)

"The third option was to design the computer that we want to put into the book eventually, even though we can't put it into the book now. And right now it sits in a breadbox and it's $10,000 and it's called Lisa.

"Fortunately, it turns out that there's a giant office market out there buying these things... (snip)...they're gobbling these things up ... (snip)... and they will pay for the development of this new technology.

"The next thing we will do is find a way to get it into a shoebox and sell it for about $2500. That'll be the next step. And finally, we'll find a way to put it into a book and sell it for under $1,000. And we'll be there within 5 to 7 years. And that's what we're working on, pretty singularly."

 

[samcraig]

Well, I finally found some time to listen to the tape myself. It wasn't at all what people are making it out to be.



Well, it turns out that you were pretty much on target. Jobs was actually talking about putting THE LISA in a book form.

So what you're saying is that context is everything and that those that only quote one section and try to make it about predicting the future iPad are reaching?

 

[Ochyandkaren]

Not that I have vitriol against Steve Jobs - but please enlighten me as to what time limit is set for not having it?

I'm pretty sure there are historical figures throughout history that people still hate with a passion even though they have died decades ago.

And i wrote against that fact?

Not that I have vitriol against Steve Jobs - but please enlighten me as to what time limit is set for not having it?
[/B].

Did i attack you?

That some people do hate Apple/Jobs irrationally is a fact. You cannot deny it.

 

[samcraig]

And i wrote against that fact?

That some people do hate Apple/Jobs irrationally is a fact. You cannot deny it.

Who is to say what is irrational and what is not.

Also - you wrote "And the vitriol brewing still towards him." in response to "Seeing this makes me quite sad as we approach the 1 yr anniversary of Steve's passing. RIP Mr Jobs, you are missed"

Clearly you are implying that some people should have let go of that vitriol by not or else why would you make that comment.

I know English isn't your first language. So perhaps you're just choosing the wrong words to explain yourself. It would explain a lot of what you are saying, what you are interpreting from others and how you are perceived.

 

[Ochyandkaren]

Who is to say what is irrational and what is not.

Also - you wrote "And the vitriol brewing still towards him." in response to "Seeing this makes me quite sad as we approach the 1 yr anniversary of Steve's passing. RIP Mr Jobs, you are missed"

Clearly you are implying that some people should have let go of that vitriol by not or else why would you make that comment.

I know English isn't your first language. So perhaps you're just choosing the wrong words to explain yourself. It would explain a lot of what you are saying, what you are interpreting from others and how you are perceived.

Wow!

Wordplay?
No, i think in broad terms, it is clear if you read my posts.
Is Your brain that linear. if English is your everyday language you sure have some problems …

And the vitriol brewing still towards him.
Funny thing he did never sells Apple as his vision, but as a collective one, as it is always.
Any creative stance is a coalescence of collective inputs ( not often explicit, obviously ).

Anthony Braxton • “The subject of human creativity is not an ethnic-centric ( selfCentered ), but a composite subject.” •

But hey you wrote:

Who is to say what is irrational and what is not.

Clearly the world is not that monochromatic, isn’t it. For you that is.



Clearly you are implying that some people should have let go of that vitriol by not or else why would you make that comment.
No, i respect freeWill, which strips me not of criticizing others ( which is nothing but offering my own input, am i right. I think I am!, Which may not be relevant for you, of course ).

Obvious, why be so dogmatic?


I know English isn't your first language. So perhaps you're just choosing the wrong words to explain yourself. It would explain a lot of what you are saying, what you are interpreting from others and how you are perceived.

Stop that, you EVER think that it is you failing to understand, are you this selfCentered?

I am not and my tirelessly explanations proves that.

 

[lilo777]

Steve Jobs prophecies?

Sounds about as accurate as all other prophecies out there

 

[samcraig]

Wow!
Is Your brain that linear. if English is your everyday language you sure have some problems …

Clearly the world is not that monochromatic, isn’t it. For you that is.

Obvious, why be so dogmatic?

are you this selfCentered?

which strips me not of criticizing others

Contradiction, thy name is Ochyandkaren

 

[faroZ06]

iPad is a personal computer ( pc )
Same with all the so called but not so smart smartPhones.

I wouldn't consider an iPhone or iPod a PC, but an iPad could be a PC.

 

[Anuba]

When Jobs came back to Apple, he killed off any big projects that couldn't make money in the short term. He killed the Newton, he killed Hypercard, he dissolved the Apple Technology Group for deep R&D.

When Jobs returned to Apple they had been stagnant for years, barfing out a thousand different versions of beige boxes with confusing model designations. After 14 years with Steve back at the helm, they were the #1 corporation in the world. Now they have such ludicrous amounts of money that they can afford endless amounts of R&D.

I guess that at a time the company was bleeding to death and they needed to make money fast to get back on their feet, you'd rather he poured money into weird-ass long-term R&D projects?

A year after his return they launched the G3, still in a beige box but things were starting to move. A year after that they launched the blobby semi-translucent bluish-green Macs, which was a brilliant move -- the notion that computers should have a sexy exterior seems bleedin' obvious now, but at the time, everyone was making beige boxes. It was only after Apple changed the rules that others started tagging along, one of the first being Dell with their first black/silver Inspirons. Then they kept going, with the iMac, the G4s, the Titanium PB, OS X (first major OS to utilize the GPU), iTunes, iPod, lampshade iMac, the Mac Mini, slate iMac, the iPhone... always progressive and quick to both ditch old tech before the others (floppy, serial & parallel port, CRT monitors) and introduce new tech (USB, onboard DVD burner etc) before it had gone mainstream. That's what the little guy on the block delivered during Steve's first 10 years after his return.

Now, what did M$ accomplish in the meantime? After all, they were huge, 90+% of the market and should be expected to pour billions into R&D and deliver cutting edge stuff. Well, let's see. In '98 they merged Win95 with the web with zero consideration for security, causing a virus storm of epic proportions. In '99 they released the atrocity that was Windows ME, along with 2K. In 2001 they slapped a skin on 2K and called it XP. And then, virtually nothing until January 2007 when they released Vista (their first OS to utilize the GPU, some 6 years after OS X 10.0), clearly still not ready for primetime. At a time when Apple was readying the release of the iPhone five months later.

Yeah, that damn Steve Jobs sure stifled the technological evolution and pooped all over R&D...

 

[divinox]

:: Indeed, Why there is proof-reading?
Again English is not my mother-language ( scrub to 02:20 to see my point ), but in this neck of the woods grammar is not the gist - ideas are, and i have no time for proof-reading and working.
And again this is not a strip-show, we are discussing, can you stick with it?


Charles Darwin theory IS no longer a theory/hypothesis, It is already proven.




Not a claim, it is a fact ( only the internet often holds NOT al the facts ). Throughout the history of science there is a proneness of ignoring those which actually come first to a revolutionary idea but somehow could not take it to the public.

Stay ignorant, not my problem.

God, you are stubborn.

1) English is not my first language either. Even if it was, not knowing the language well is not an excuse for not getting it to the point of being obnoxious.

2) Why are you linking a clip about americans and iran? How is that even remotely relevant?

3) The theory of Evolution is a theory, not a fact. That said, there are plenty of evidence corroborating the theory. That said, what is your point? Why is this relevant?

4) You claim that it is a fact. You have yet to show any evidence for it. And no, i see no reason to take your word for it.

5) Yes, many pioneers end up ignored. Maybe this is true for your mystery Mr. India as well. Until you tell me who it is, though, i see no reason to assume that is the case. Especially not since your overall understanding of both science, darwin, and theories of evolution appears shoddy to say the least.

P.S.

Are you sure that you understand the meaning of raison d'être? from the way you are using it, it does not look like it!

 

[divinox]

In those examples, the architect and composer have skills. Jobs had no technical skills whatsoever, which is partly why he got fired from Apple in the first place. Jobs was more like the PR rep or manager for a band; he didn't create the songs or play the music, but he could pick which songs would make money and sell the band's image. And that's fine.

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My beef with him (and others with the power and money to create such a book) is that they sat on their thumbs for 27 years!

When Jobs came back to Apple, he killed off any big projects that couldn't make money in the short term. He killed the Newton, he killed Hypercard, he dissolved the Apple Technology Group for deep R&D.

Heck, Jobs spent years telling his staff that tablets weren't good for anything other than web surfing in the bathroom.

That's not being innovative. That's being safe and ostrich like. So no, I don't want to hear about Jobs, because he mostly parroted what he heard from others or what he thought the crowd wanted to hear.

I want to hear about the REAL innovators. The Apple insiders who pushed for the apps that Jobs thought were unnecessary. I want to hear about the actual Apple engineers who came up with the GUI that made Jobs sit up and pay attention to touchscreen devices:

In the Jobs' biography, there's an interesting section about how the multi-touch interface came about. Jobs' version of course made himself the center, by asking for a prototype keyboard. But...

Maybe Isaacson is doing a poor job telling the story, but, assuming this had direct bearing (temporally speaking) on the iPhone project, wouldnt others already have publicly shown off similar technologies? And if so, how come Jobs was so excited? I mean, Han's presentation at TED can hardly have been the first, right? Am i missing something here?

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I wouldn't consider an iPhone or iPod a PC, but an iPad could be a PC.

Is a padfone a PC? Or an iphone hooked up to an external monitor, for that matter. What if we add a bluetooth keyboard? And so on, and so forth.

 

[Renzatic]

Is a padfone a PC? Or an iphone hooked up to an external monitor, for that matter. What if we add a bluetooth keyboard? And so on, and so forth.

Actually, I'd be willing to consider the iPad a PC as well. I know when I started posting here I talked about how tablets suited for much of anything except media consumption. I didn't think it was the best form factor for "real" work.

I've been forced to eat my own words since I picked one up for myself. I use my iPad for everything I expected I'd do with a netbook. Creating documents, note taking, planning, drawing, watching movies, playing games, it does everything a little PC should do. It's a slick, handy little machine.

And to really drive the point home on how badly I'm reversing my original opinion...I'm pretty much retroactively agreeing with some of the things LTD said about the iPad. LTD. Of all people. That's...that's...yeah...it's weird.

 

[afrowq]

Context, context and please be honest.

You yelled for me to learn to write and to go read books in english, ( i learned English on my own, by just reading books, i barely speaks the language with anyone ).

That piece/video ( and you know well ) did contextualize understanding as not related to language, but with sophistication/patience.

I didn't yell for anything. I only said for you to go read an English book because you weren't making sense after you told me to go read a book (Clarke's novel). The naivete of your statement, as has been stated here several times, is that Kubrick wrote the material with Clarke and the movie was released first. The tablet computer was in the movie, not the book, and Kubrick was the author of the screenplay for the movie. I have read the book and seen the movie. Have you? Are we perfectly clear why your statement urging me to "read books please" and implying that Clarke alone wrote 2001 was uninformed and silly?

 

[Jibbajabba]

So you just do all of your emails and stuff on an iPad or someone else's PC?

Working all day on a pc so I got tired of having a big box in the house. Yes, I am using my iPad for email and web. For gaming I got several consoles and if I need to do something which does require a PC I either do this in the office or RDP to server from my iPad - just today I installed Apache / PHP on a server using a SSH client on the iPad.

 

[samcraig]

And now it appears that Steve is just about done re-inventing Heaven...

http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/05/steve-jobs-reinventing-heaven/

 

[kdarling]

... as has been stated here several times, is that Kubrick wrote the material with Clarke and the movie was released first.

The tablet computer was in the movie, not the book, and Kubrick was the author of the screenplay for the movie.

The so-called Newspad (interesting that it ends in "pad") tablet was in the book.

"When he tired of official reports and memoranda and minutes, he would plug his foolscap-sized Newspad into the ship's information circuit and scan the latest reports from Earth. One by one he would conjure up the world's major electronic papers; he knew the codes of the more important ones by heart, and had no need to consult the list on the back of his pad. Switching to the display unit's short-term memory, he would hold the front page while he quickly searched the headlines and noted the items that interested him.

"Each had its own two-digit reference; when he punched that, the postage-stamp-sized rectangle would expand until it neatly filled the screen and he could read it with comfort. When he had finished, he would flash back to the complete page and select a new subject for detailed examination."

- book

Sounds like a 1960s concept of what the Internet would be like, with news sites / stories that you could zoom out to fill the screen.

The movie version seemed to be more video oriented, though. Whatever progressed the storyline.

 

[WeegieMac]

...and how long before that did they envision a tablet computer in a science fiction film/show?

It's one thing to stick a laminate of a make believe interface on a piece of plywood and hand it to an actor. It's quite another to see the real life equivalent in your mind, envisage how it would work, imagine it's real world form factor, and think of the eco-system it would exist in.

 

[afrowq]

The so-called Newspad (interesting that it ends in "pad") tablet was in the book.



Sounds like a 1960s concept of what the Internet would be like, with news sites / stories that you could zoom out to fill the screen.

The movie version seemed to be more video oriented, though. Whatever progressed the storyline.

Wow, good memory! I didn't recall that from the book. I stand corrected. So, apparently Clarke and Kubrick both were visionaries 15 years before Jobs.

 

[rsocal]

Production in the millions

High quality product? Are you sure your talking about SJ? What above the reception issues with the iPhone 4, yellow tinting on the screen of the phones and MacBooks. Doesn't seem high quality and precise to me.

I haven't seen a more brown nosed comment as this one. Sure SJ changed most of our lives but the man was not god.

Oh on a side note I thought up of a iPod back in the early 80's maybe I can get some royalties or some credit for thinking and "INVISIONING" it.


James

So,let me understand this? When a production amount in the millions and a small percentage have some warranty issues that Apple compared to any other company, makes it so easy to walk into a Apple Store and walk out with a another brand new one! I buy 4 new iPhones, every yr. as well as 2 iPads (preorder) even wait it line sometimes when there's no preorder & for fun! I also buy a MacBook Pro every 2yrs along with several other Apple products. I rarely have had to have warranty work done to any of my family's including mine in for warranty work! When we have, we would just make a Genius Bar Appt. and walk out with a new product or an easily fixed one! Your statement about reception (i4) and screen issues is not only something they would exchange for a new one or get your money back. Please don't bring up the reception issue that was so over blown just like Maps and for the record I new not one person this effected and when my friends & I would try and put our finger on the sweet spot could make bars go down but again we had to make a conscious effort to get it to do it! I still believe it was just a way to try and bring Apple down and sales! Which it didn't do!
The newest one is Maps for iPhone 5, a whole other topic not needed again here, other then Apple will get it right just like Google did & does, people's feedback is 50 percent of getting it more accurate where there is issues! For me Maps has been great so far, however Google is a little more polished. Apple Map Turn By Turn is a Great and was needed! I would like to see Google make a nice Maps App for Apples App Store and we have another choice in Maps! There is some good Maps already in App Store some are free! I have recently tried GPS MOTION X, it has a 4.5-5.0 review rating and it works great!!!

Bottom line, give me an example of a company and or electronics company that has better made Hardware then Apple? What I'm asking is Hardware quality, not what's your favorite phone or computer, what product/company has better BUILD quality, better machining, better components throughout and better materials while keeping it cost competitive!
Please people I'm not saying there is not great company's and products out there! There is some very good ones out there!
But Apple is at the top of their field!

I personally still fully believe that Apples iOS is the best software, their Ecosystem is far beyond anything out there! Their User Experience unsurpassed and the quality and Customer Service is second to none!

Btw who am I brown nosing, I'm getting nothing for saying what I feel, I think you've misunderstood what brown nosing means! I don't work for Apple, I don't sell anything Apple and again I'm not trying to get anything from this!
Steve Jobs has passed away far to soon(R.I.P) and if I have anybody that I would say is an idle to me S.J is it! But he's not here to see my so called brown nosing comments and I still don't see that I'm going to get anything for it!
Again I believe brown nosing a boss or person is an attempt to get something or move yourself up in a job!!!

 

[JForestZ34]

So,let me understand this? When a production amount in the millions and a small percentage have some warranty issues that Apple compared to any other company, makes it so easy to walk into a Apple Store and walk out with a another brand new one! I buy 4 new iPhones, every yr. as well as 2 iPads (preorder) even wait it line sometimes when there's no preorder & for fun! I also buy a MacBook Pro every 2yrs along with several other Apple products. I rarely have had to have warranty work done to any of my family's including mine in for warranty work! When we have, we would just make a Genius Bar Appt. and walk out with a new product or an easily fixed one! Your statement about reception (i4) and screen issues is not only something they would exchange for a new one or get your money back. Please don't bring up the reception issue that was so over blown just like Maps and for the record I new not one person this effected and when my friends & I would try and put our finger on the sweet spot could make bars go down but again we had to make a conscious effort to get it to do it! I still believe it was just a way to try and bring Apple down and sales! Which it didn't do!
The newest one is Maps for iPhone 5, a whole other topic not needed again here, other then Apple will get it right just like Google did & does, people's feedback is 50 percent of getting it more accurate where there is issues! For me Maps has been great so far, however Google is a little more polished. Apple Map Turn By Turn is a Great and was needed! I would like to see Google make a nice Maps App for Apples App Store and we have another choice in Maps! There is some good Maps already in App Store some are free! I have recently tried GPS MOTION X, it has a 4.5-5.0 review rating and it works great!!!

Bottom line, give me an example of a company and or electronics company that has better made Hardware then Apple? What I'm asking is Hardware quality, not what's your favorite phone or computer, what product/company has better BUILD quality, better machining, better components throughout and better materials while keeping it cost competitive!
Please people I'm not saying there is not great company's and products out there! There is some very good ones out there!
But Apple is at the top of their field!

I personally still fully believe that Apples iOS is the best software, their Ecosystem is far beyond anything out there! Their User Experience unsurpassed and the quality and Customer Service is second to none!

Btw who am I brown nosing, I'm getting nothing for saying what I feel, I think you've misunderstood what brown nosing means! I don't work for Apple, I don't sell anything Apple and again I'm not trying to get anything from this!
Steve Jobs has passed away far to soon(R.I.P) and if I have anybody that I would say is an idle to me S.J is it! But he's not here to see my so called brown nosing comments and I still don't see that I'm going to get anything for it!
Again I believe brown nosing a boss or person is an attempt to get something or move yourself up in a job!!!

In the last couple of years apple has been dropping the ball pretty bad. On the new Macbook pro retina ghosting on the screen? and yes I will bring it up again " the reception issue" because their defense is get a bumper or don't hold it that way doesn't work. That means its a defect. What about purple haze on the new iphone 5. What about the graphics card issue on the macbook pro santa rosa models?

This is not high quality. I know this is apple's to oranges but you don't see a mercedes S class having the issue's of a nissan altima. S class HIGH QUALITY....

I know 2 totally different things, but you can still relate to them. Is it still a good product, yes it is. But for you saying that they put out high quality, maybe so but I haven't seen it in the last year or 2.


James

 

[rsocal]

in the last couple of years apple has been dropping the ball pretty bad. On the new macbook pro retina ghosting on the screen? And yes i will bring it up again " the reception issue" because their defense is get a bumper or don't hold it that way doesn't work. That means its a defect. What about purple haze on the new iphone 5. What about the graphics card issue on the macbook pro santa rosa models?

This is not high quality. I know this is apple's to oranges but you don't see a mercedes s class having the issue's of a nissan altima. S class high quality....

I know 2 totally different things, but you can still relate to them. Is it still a good product, yes it is. But for you saying that they put out high quality, maybe so but i haven't seen it in the last year or 2.

Again way off base, mercedes & nissan don't make near the quantity of one model all models that apple produces each product! Second every car even mercedes comes with a long term warranty's because of the problems and recalls that all car manufactures have tons of! I grew up in the collision business of high end cars from mercedes/bmw to toyotas & hondas and not one of those manufactures has a no warranty problems even close to apple! In our business we see recall notices and problems to cars when doing collision work that we have to correct or the dealer has to correct, ask toyota about the gas pedal problem that went on? Turned out it was what people thought similar to the antenna gate! If i were you i would look at the amount off recalls for a lexus, we own one ls 460, more recalls then our last rx 330 and both had recalls and warranty s problems then all my apple products put to together! The quality on my iphones, ipads and macbooks then either one of the lexus's owned and my ford f150 has given me the amount of recalls and warranty problems. Oh ya, and the customer service compared to apple does not even compare! So if your comparison is to that of high end cars or cars in general apple would win that all day long! And i didn't get into the problems my brother has had with his sl550 mercedes, the one that now comes standard with apple built in integration for iphones or ipads/ipods and they're not the only ones doing

james

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[JForestZ34]

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I do recall the gas pedal incident. Wasn't it the floor mats causing a problem and not a defect of the car?

In my previous post I talked about cars. I also said that comparison was apples to oranges. I've been in the auto industry for 18+ years. Do you see Mercedes having as many recalls as Honda or Toyota? I haven't and neither has my shop.

Like said before apple make good products but they haven't been high quality as of late. They are more worried about money money money


James

 

[rsocal]

Yes, I do

I do recall the gas pedal incident. Wasn't it the floor mats causing a problem and not a defect of the car?

In my previous post I talked about cars. I also said that comparison was apples to oranges. I've been in the auto industry for 18+ years. Do you see Mercedes having as many recalls as Honda or Toyota? I haven't and neither has my shop.

Like said before apple make good products but they haven't been high quality as of late. They are more worried about money money money


James

Since you brought it up I've been in the Automotive business over 30+ yrs however I don't think that means ****, if you don't like Apple why are you here and do own any Apple Products? And to Answer your question I think Honda probably has the least amount of Warranty issues, but that is just a hunch. I've been in the collision side. The stats I speak of service Bulitains we get in our estimating software.
You made my point about Toyota, it was over blown ******** because a few people had some issues with a floor mats and look what it did. No company can controll quality when human error is a part of it and Apple does a great Job!
Just curious what kind of shop do you work on cars that does warranty work for Honda, Toyota and Mercede's? I don't take my iPhone to Motorola for a warranty issue? What in your 18yrs have you done in the Automotive Business that you would do warranty work on three different Manufactures to have the stats that you are giving?

 

[rsocal]

When Jobs returned to Apple they had been stagnant for years, barfing out a thousand different versions of beige boxes with confusing model designations. After 14 years with Steve back at the helm, they were the #1 corporation in the world. Now they have such ludicrous amounts of money that they can afford endless amounts of R&D.

I guess that at a time the company was bleeding to death and they needed to make money fast to get back on their feet, you'd rather he poured money into weird-ass long-term R&D projects?

A year after his return they launched the G3, still in a beige box but things were starting to move. A year after that they launched the blobby semi-translucent bluish-green Macs, which was a brilliant move -- the notion that computers should have a sexy exterior seems bleedin' obvious now, but at the time, everyone was making beige boxes. It was only after Apple changed the rules that others started tagging along, one of the first being Dell with their first black/silver Inspirons. Then they kept going, with the iMac, the G4s, the Titanium PB, OS X (first major OS to utilize the GPU), iTunes, iPod, lampshade iMac, the Mac Mini, slate iMac, the iPhone... always progressive and quick to both ditch old tech before the others (floppy, serial & parallel port, CRT monitors) and introduce new tech (USB, onboard DVD burner etc) before it had gone mainstream. That's what the little guy on the block delivered during Steve's first 10 years after his return.

Now, what did M$ accomplish in the meantime? After all, they were huge, 90+% of the market and should be expected to pour billions into R&D and deliver cutting edge stuff. Well, let's see. In '98 they merged Win95 with the web with zero consideration for security, causing a virus storm of epic proportions. In '99 they released the atrocity that was Windows ME, along with 2K. In 2001 they slapped a skin on 2K and called it XP. And then, virtually nothing until January 2007 when they released Vista (their first OS to utilize the GPU, some 6 years after OS X 10.0), clearly still not ready for primetime. At a time when Apple was readying the release of the iPhone five months later.

Yeah, that damn Steve Jobs sure stifled the technological evolution and pooped all over R&D...

Thank you for setting that guy straight, S.J did nothing less then change our world for the better like that of Henry Ford, Thomas Edison & so on! He belongs with the people that made America in the history books!