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I envision a computer that can be installed in your brain. All your computing needs done at a whim. The year today is 2013. Play networked games (imagine porn with networking), print out stuff... search the internet -- all done in your head. Holy **** -- now THAT's envisioning the future!!


Ok... now I've got about oh, say 60 years to do it... give or take a decade...
 
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I envision a computer that can be installed in your brain. All your computing needs done at a whim. The year today is 2013. Play networked games (imaging porn with networking), print out stuff... search the internet -- all done in your head. Holy **** -- now THAT's envisioning the future!!


Ok... now I've got about oh, say 60 years to do it... give or take a decade...

Take a number. You are a decade behind me, as long as you can't realize this dream of yours. Oops, actually my dream since I also thought of it 10 years ago. It will remain a day dream.

That man is something else.
 
Indeed. But the headline reads: envisioned the iPad in 1983. Not successfully executed on his vision over 2 decades later. If anything, it would have been more surprising if Jobs did not share this common vision: so what is the point of the article, really?

Jobs had taste. Jobs had timing. Jobs knew how to work markets. I have no problem to give him that. I just dont see the need to sing praise over what is essentially nothing praise-worthy.

That's because you're just generalizing it into meaning Steve Jobs simply envisioned the tablet computer. His gift was envisioning what the product should BE. He practically got every single detail right, 20 years ago. Anyone could say "computers will eventually become portable." That's a very broad "vision." Steve's vision went far beyond that, pinpointing exact details. His guesses as to when worldwide networking would reach consumers homes was eerily accurate.

Jobs got the details right. Others didn't. He predicted details with scary accuracy. If you don't think that's the definition of vision, then I don't know what to say.

What's particularly telling of Jobs vision, was when he said he could build some crappy portable today, but he chooses not to, instead waiting until he can actually build it right. The fact that the iPad and iPhone came out decades later is an nbelievable testament to the mans focus and understanding of the gestalt, the whole enchilada, what the product should truly be down to the most excruciating detail. Few people possess that sort of discipline and focus.
 
It is amazing the vision that Steve had, crating things in his mind that can change our world for ever, the way he carried the company and its projects development is simply perfect.

I have had many pieces of technology in my life and I believe that the apple products are just perfect compared to brands that offer "similar" things, no other company takes design so seriously, and by design I mean the visual and not visual parts.

Just because of the personality that Steve had (pushing everything to be perfect), it isn't a surprise to see where this company is now, the growing that apple has achieve and the market sharing in the technology world.

Finally I just want to thank Steve for the way he changed our life.

Rest in peace GENIUS. :apple:
 
I wonder what Tim cook is "envisioning". $1000 stock? Its the products first mentality that made apple the wealthiest public company in the world, not trying to be the wealthiest company in the world. Tim seems like an amazing operations guy, but world changing vision caster?
 
Can we just start predicting things and claim them later? I hereby predict the inductive charging used in common surfaces such as desks. Now if it happens, I was the one to call it. :p

Seriously though, Jobs had an amazing life and did some incredible stuff, but neither predicting nor inventing the tablet were one of those things.

You know, instead of getting all negative about MacRumor's headline, maybe you guys could try listening to the speech.

It's like a finger pointing away to the moon.
 
And he wasn't the first to do that either....

Who says you have to be first ? He's the first who has the right mix. That's what count. There are tons of people who only dreamed, and another ton who got it "wrong". He's the one who got it right.

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...and "being investigated" equates to "convicted of monopolistic practices" in your mind?

So sad....

Well it is using its monopolistic power to squeeze out competitions. There has been a series of investigations and even warnings by EU officials. Google is supplying the necessary info to the investigators as we speak.

By the time the government ruled MS, all the competition already got wiped out clean. The same slow process will be good for Googlez I reckon.
 
Gee - "Star Trek" was showing "book computers" in 1966.

And none of them had wires connecting them to the mainframes....

Star Trek came out in 1966 but is that also the date for those imaginary tablets? I was trying to find that out as well.
 
You know, instead of getting all negative about MacRumor's headline, maybe you guys could try listening to the speech.

It's like a finger pointing away to the moon.

I did. Also, I was in no way negative, nor did I point fingers. I gave honest facts, and added in a little light hearted humour. Maybe you're the one who needs to not be so negative.
 
...and how long before that did they envision a tablet computer in a science fiction film/show?

Only 15 years after Alan Kay, then. Visionary, indeed.

(That said, Jobs indeed had great vision - or taste, as Bill G once put it).

Everybody and their brother had a vision of a computer in a book back then...

Mostly because of Alan Kay and his Dynabook concept from 1968:

YouTube: video

Really, no pictures of Picard holding the PADD yet? Here:
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Stupid Steve Jobs envisioning a tablet computer ... a real man would of made it happen ... 'oh wait :eek:

:apple::apple::apple:
 
I did. Also, I was in no way negative, nor did I point fingers. I gave honest facts, and added in a little light hearted humour. Maybe you're the one who needs to not be so negative.

Where in the speech does he claim to have solely come up with the idea of the tablet?

Frankly, I picked your post because it was convenient but was just symptomatic enough of the knee-jerk complaining and nitpicking going on in here.
 
...and how long before that did they envision a tablet computer in a science fiction film/show?

Do you realize the difference between the two? :rolleyes:

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I envision a computer that can be installed in your brain. All your computing needs done at a whim. The year today is 2013. Play networked games (imagine porn with networking), print out stuff... search the internet -- all done in your head. Holy **** -- now THAT's envisioning the future!!


Ok... now I've got about oh, say 60 years to do it... give or take a decade...

Point is, you have no idea how to do it or how to push forward the right technologies and devote your life into it.:p
Of course there are visionaries on singularities but who is going to implement it for real?;)

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I wonder what Tim cook is "envisioning". $1000 stock? Its the products first mentality that made apple the wealthiest public company in the world, not trying to be the wealthiest company in the world. Tim seems like an amazing operations guy, but world changing vision caster?

Mmmm. Probably no. That would be Ives IMO.. But again, he will fall far short of SJ.
 
Where in the speech does he claim to have solely come up with the idea of the tablet?

Frankly, I picked your post because it was convenient but was just symptomatic enough of the knee-jerk complaining and nitpicking going on in here.

I didn't say he claimed it.
 
One could argue against this, citing the various Apple "missteps" in the last 6 months.

The "magic" is gone, and there's no RDF to put it back. And a lot of Apple's market cap depends on the belief in "magic".

Even worse - Apple is losing its "cool factor".

And look at the thread on Forbes around If Steve Jobs Were Alive, He Would Fire Tim Cook. (Read the associated threads as well, such as one which argued that it would be "un-Buddhist" to fire Cook.)

A lot of this kind of nonsense is going on. Forbes has to be hurting for page views.
 
...and "being investigated" equates to "convicted of monopolistic practices" in your mind?

So sad....

What difference does it make? Google doesn't have to be convicted to be considered a monopoly, because it is not illegal in itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly

Wikipedia said:
Competition law does not make merely having a monopoly illegal, but rather abusing the power a monopoly may confer, for instance through exclusionary practices.
 
why is everyone comparing Steve ideas for a tablet computer to film props from years before?

These devices didn't work, if Steve had stayed on at Apple I'm sure one way or another he would have tried to attempt something. Sure, the tech wasn't really there in the 90's, look at the newton for instance, it was defo a decade or so before its time.

Yes I know Steve Jobs had nothing to do with the Newton, he'd long since left. It was the work of John Sculley, you can really tell how Apple devolved passed 1985 and into the 90's. Looking at how complicated the product line became in Steve's absence and a lot of the bizarre products such as, Apple CD Player, Games console, Cable Set Top Box and digital Camera etc.
 
Everybody and their brother had a vision of a computer in a book back then...

Mostly because of Alan Kay and his Dynabook concept from 1968:

YouTube: video

Wow that's a great find, I never even knew this guy existed. Thanks for the mind expansion! It seems a lot of great stuff happened at Xerox, it's a pity they couldn't bring it all to fruition themselves.
 
I wonder if they might have actually done it "this decade" if he hadn't been kicked out in 1985. He seems like the guy who could have pulled it off in some way or another. If not the '80s, quite possibly the '90s.

Not really the tech wasnt there .

Lets not forget ipad concept was described in the 60's shown in tv and movies in the 60-70's hell they even tried to design them from that period just look at dynapad. Even apple couldnt do it before 2010 and that was after jobs was back for over a decade .
 
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