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........But you won't be able to use it till you connect it to another computer! Two for one insanely greatness.
 
Big deal.

Polish sci-fi writer Stanisław Lem in 1955 (in The Magellanic Cloud) predicted the Internet, then in 1961 (in Return from the Stars) he predicted "touch-enabled electronic books connected to the mother library" (exactly what Jobs was describing).

Gene Roddenberry presented a lot of tablet-like devices in the 1966 Star Trek series.

American computer scientist Alan Key worked on a portable computer in 1968, the Dynabook, which resembles a tablet computer (he also talked about wireless communication).

American film director and writer Stanley Kubrick included tablet like devices in his 1969 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, they also entailed wireless communication.

In the late 1970's when multi-touch was being invented people were already talking about actually working on portable touch-enabled devices.

What Steve Jobs was talking about was nothing new. It has been a concept that was around for many, many years. It has already been worked on.

Apple, and especially Steve Jobs, are getting too much credit, as usual.
 
Big deal.

Polish sci-fi writer Stanisław Lem in 1955 (in The Magellanic Cloud) predicted the Internet, then in 1961 (in Return from the Stars) he predicted "touch-enabled electronic books connected to the mother library" (exactly what Jobs was describing).

Gene Roddenberry presented a lot of tablet-like devices in the 1966 Star Trek series.

American computer scientist Alan Key worked on a portable computer in 1968, the Dynabook, which resembles a tablet computer (he also talked about wireless communication).

American film director and writer Stanley Kubrick included tablet like devices in his 1969 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, they also entailed wireless communication.

In the late 1970's when multi-touch was being invented people were already talking about actually working on portable touch-enabled devices.

What Steve Jobs was talking about was nothing new. It has been a concept that was around for many, many years. It has already been worked on.

Apple, and especially Steve Jobs, are getting too much credit, as usual.


NO!

1 - Computer existed even before the famous Nazarene, aka Jesus, mechanical computers are computers nevertheless.
2 - Did you ask Gene Roddenberry who he was reading?
3 - Alan Kay worked at Apple. And Steve did say - Apple, not Steve thinks.
4 - Arthur C. Clarke wrote the book that Kubrick adapted, Go read some of his work and interviews.


Apple, and especially Steve Jobs, are getting are getting prized for ( as with any creative people ) actually bringing to life what others have thought of.

Look at Picasso work, you will se interpretation of old European painting through the prism of African sculpture ( of course people ignore the African art influence on his work ). But he is hailed a genius, and he is, because he offered a new way of looking at things. his famous monkey sculpture - baboon and young - was a proof of that.
monkey.jpg
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John Ford did not invent the automobile, but he was a genius.
Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison are all genius and both work was based on others people ideas.

Classic European composers orchestrated popular songs and were hailed genius.

Give Apple credit.

A footnote, science-fiction started in ancient India not in Europe.
 
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NO!

1 - Computer existed even before the famous Nazarene, aka Jesus, mechanical computers are computers nevertheless.
2 - Ask Gene Roddenberry who he was reading?
3 - Alan Kay worked at Apple. And Steve did say - Apple, not Steve thinks.
4 - Arthur C. Clarke wrote the book that Kubrick adapted, Go read some of his books.


Apple, and especially Steve Jobs, are getting are getting prized for ( as with any creative people ) actually bringing to life what others have thought of.

John Ford did not invented the automobile, but he was a genius.
Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison are all genius and both work was based on others people ideas.

Classic European composers orchestrated popular songs and were hailed genius.

Give Apple credit.
Everything you just said is completely irrelevant.

The point of this article by MacRumors is that "Steve Jobs was a visionary as he envisaged the iPad in 1983", and I'm arguing against that. He stated nothing that was novel, groundbreaking or otherworldly.

Besides, Alan Kay worked at Apple for a short period of time and he worked on his tablet device nearly a decade before Apple was established.

And there's a huge piece at Oatmeal that disagrees with your Tesla & Edison argument.
 
Everything you just said is completely irrelevant.

The point of this article by MacRumors is that "Steve Jobs was a visionary as he envisaged the iPad in 1983", and I'm arguing against that. He stated nothing that was novel, groundbreaking or otherworldly.

Besides, Alan Kay worked at Apple for a short period of time and he worked on his tablet device nearly a decade before Apple was established.

And there's a huge piece at Oatmeal that disagrees with your Tesla & Edison argument.



Envisioned the iPad indeed!
Apple was looking for the iPad since then, you cannot deny that!
And the iPad is not even IT!

irrelevant?
My argument that ideas brew ( listen to Miles Davis Bitches Brew ) throughout generations before materializing is irrelevant?
I did provide proofs!
- Charles Darwin, Isaac Newton, Galileo, Da Vinci, Picaso, any classical European composer …

Creativity is a stream of consciousness, the hypocrisy of selfMade men distorts what being a genius means, it means NOT that you did it all!

Even Einstein pivotal theory of relativity was based on elevators!
Alan Kay idea did come out of thin air ( even if so - prize the air! )?
NO, he did was influenced by something/others ideas ( almost all of the current science fiction themes were already written about by ancient writers of the current India ). That is creativity, no man is an island and will never be.
Accept that and give Apple credit.

And there's a huge piece at Oatmeal that disagrees with your Tesla & Edison argument.
OH!
Lets be serious!
Electricity was actually put in use by the Persians and ancient Egyptians.

Sorry about the constant editing, i am making a meal, and i need no distraction to screw up.
 
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Chip Implants!

I envision a mind-controlled PC, for the record.

I envision being able to implant a computer chip in my brain that can be programmed to whatever features you need for your job or just daily living!
A life time of education with one down load from the Apple App store;):cool::

Maybe someday this will be possible........
 
Where?

Indeed. But the headline reads: envisioned the iPad in 1983. Not successfully executed on his vision over 2 decades later. If anything, it would have been more surprising if Jobs did not share this common vision: so what is the point of the article, really?

Jobs had taste. Jobs had timing. Jobs knew how to work markets. I have no problem to give him that. I just dont see the need to sing praise over what is essentially nothing praise-worthy.

Where do people like you come from, just curious, as I take your comment as if because another man had a vision of a similar device that looked more to me like an early attempt at a LapTop. Which is a great vision for that time! However I do think this is a great vision of Jobs that came to be. The Newton was a failure needed, you Learn from mistakes and I think the Newton gave a lot of insight to what would later help with iPhone & ipad?:cool::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::cool:
 
"What we want to do is we want to put an incredibly great computer in a book..."


So Steve envisioned a NoteBOOK. Nothing to see here, go on!

:cool:
 
That's amazing that he had the general idea for a touchscreen computer that early in history.

Although, from the video, I got the impression that it was supposed to be aimed specifically at the children's market, what with its simple controls.

He may not have been anticipating the ability for people to do serious work on that type of device.

Alan Kay was stupidly ahead of his time. Try digging around for videos of him and prepare to be amazed what this guy was coming up with at Xerox and before.

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And where do I buy his device? Its one thing to imagine something... quite another to make it a reality.

Not so according to US patent laws.
 
Jobs sure is getting undeserved credit here. Is it really necessary to give him such credits when he's so accomplished and there are so many real things to credit him with?
 
the only problem is that other computer scientists were surely talking about this well before 1983. There are PARC projects that had ideas like this in the 70's. You don't think Steve got wind of everyone's ideas in the tech industry? Just because he is talking about something doesn't mean he thought of it, or "envisioned" it.

Steve took the concept, added his own ideas to it, and turned it into a marketable successful product.

Without Steve Jobs, tablets would have remained in the Stone Age (windows Tablets).
 
Couldn't a "computer in a book" technically be a laptop also?
How do we know he meant a tablet?

(I didn't read the full thing, only what was on this front page. If he went into further detail about a touch screen and such then forget what I'm saying now. But as far as a "wireless computer in a book" - wouldn't that technically be a laptop? Or a "notebook computer?")

That's exactly what I thought. I think he was referring more to the Macbook Air than the iPad. I don't even think he was even considering tablets until the early
2000's.
 
If people actually think.
Yes, do Think.

Throw out your Apple disdain and personal snakiness.

Lets think!


What is Happy Accident?
Why it is called Happy?


Do you know that the transistor was a happy accident?

Look out the history of Semiconductor, it is called a happy accident because people were after such thing, otherwise they would have been not able of recognizing it.

Creativity activities are stream of consciousness ( i borrow that from the coolest man alive! - Thurston Moore - him talking about what is music ), and to add up people go to school for what?


What is apple’s mind set?
-- To make the simplest machinery, no, it is NOT original. But it is no less genial …

Please give Apple credit for What it does and for what it took from others as well from what others took from it
 
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I guess people will have to come out of the woodwork to reveal that just out of the womb - his first words were tablet computing :rolleyes:

Seriously - what's next - Steve will get credit for the first airplane, radio, tv, automobile, man?

ETA: It's almost as if someone is trying to make a case as to why Bill Gates/Microsoft shouldn't get any credit for the first series of tablets back in 2000. Success or failure - they were tangible products. And came long before the iPad.
 
I guess people will have to come out of the woodwork to reveal that just out of the womb - his first words were tablet computing :rolleyes:

Seriously - what's next - Steve will get credit for the first airplane, radio, tv, automobile, man?

ETA: It's almost as if someone is trying to make a case as to why Bill Gates/Microsoft shouldn't get any credit for the first series of tablets back in 2000. Success or failure - they were tangible products. And came long before the iPad.



Are you arguing against yourself?


iPad was what Apple was in search of?
I do not know!
Only Apple can say.


The title of this post is - Go read it - Steve Jobs Envisioned the iPad in 1983

The proof that you are arguing against yourself:
- Your arguments takes the iPad as the cul-de-sac, it is NOT!
Apple actually is improving it.
 
I guess people will have to come out of the woodwork to reveal that just out of the womb - his first words were tablet computing :rolleyes:

Seriously - what's next - Steve will get credit for the first airplane, radio, tv, automobile, man?

ETA: It's almost as if someone is trying to make a case as to why Bill Gates/Microsoft shouldn't get any credit for the first series of tablets back in 2000. Success or failure - they were tangible products. And came long before the iPad.

If anything, this article perpetuates the Apple zealot mentality. Product X (or feature X) is created, Apple doesn't have a Product X and therefore Product X isn't needed, a horrible idea, a flash in the pan etc,. Then Apple finally puts out their version of Product X. From that day forward Apple is credited for having created Product X, perfected it on the first run, and anyone who creates their version of Product X after that is accused of copying, stealing, or at a minimum being unimaginative to just copy Apple. This includes the company who invented the original Product X.

You've been around here long enough to know this. Are you surprised? :D
 
Envisioned the iPad indeed!
Apple was looking for the iPad since then, you cannot deny that!
And the iPad is not even IT!

irrelevant?
My argument that ideas brew ( listen to Miles Davis Bitches Brew ) throughout generations before materializing is irrelevant?
I did provide proofs!
- Charles Darwin, Isaac Newton, Galileo, Da Vinci, Picaso, any classical European composer …

Creativity is a stream of consciousness, the hypocrisy of selfMade men distorts what being a genius means, it means NOT that you did it all!

Even Einstein pivotal theory of relativity was based on elevators!
Alan Kay idea did come out of thin air ( even if so - prize the air! )?
NO, he did was influenced by something/others ideas ( almost all of the current science fiction themes were already written about by ancient writers of the current India ). That is creativity, no man is an island and will never be.
Accept that and give Apple credit.


OH!
Lets be serious!
Electricity was actually put in use by the Persians and ancient Egyptians.

Sorry about the constant editing, i am making a meal, and i need no distraction to screw up.

Again, that's completely irrelevant. You just don't seem to get it, do you?

You're partially proving my point with your arguments.

All I am saying is Steve Jobs did not state anything novel in 1983, and this article is trying to make it sound like he was a "visionary" and a "genius" because of that statement. And I'm simply saying that it is bullocks, since the concept he mentioned was around for decades. You don't need to flood with me with "examples" of how certain things were inspired by others, those are truisms.
 
Steve Jobs Will always be Greatly Missed'!!

I miss his presents at Apple, the Stern perfection demanded from all of the company! His true sincere love for the company he and The Woz created:apple::apple::apple:!!!

His love and dedication for making the highest quality precision products! I love just the hardware alone and the design of his RT hand man Jonny Ive! I think they had a greatness that will never matched!
I'm sure there is someone at Apple or that will come along with Steve's Vision, quality & User Experience before profits! When you make a great product the profits come!
I myself see Jonny Ive being more then a designer, maybe he can have vision or someone just comes out of the blue and fit the mold!!!

R.I.P S.J WE LOVE WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO US THAT MADE OUR LIVES BETTER AND MUSIC EASIE! IS BUISNESS MORE EFFICIENT!
WHAT CAN I SAY ABOUT THE iPhone, iPad AND MacBook Pro LINE!
THE MB AIR AND THE NEW 15in.MB RETINA DISPLAY THAT I JUST GOT AFTER MY NEW IPHONE 5! My family all use apple iPhone's, iPads and MacBook Pros and one other BIG Apple plus is the Ecosystem and iCloud! Until you really see how it all works together!!!:cool::cool::cool::apple::apple::apple:
 
Again, that's completely irrelevant. You just don't seem to get it, do you?

You're partially proving my point with your arguments.

All I am saying is Steve Jobs did not state anything novel in 1983, and this article is trying to make it sound like he was a "visionary" and a "genius" because of that statement. And I'm simply saying that it is bullocks, since the concept he mentioned was around for decades. You don't need to flood with me with "examples" of how certain things were inspired by others, those are truisms.

No, lets be honest.

If others labeled genius and visionaries did work on others people ideas WHY on earth you are denying Jobs that title?


Jobs never labeled himself a self-made man, he always gathered the well educated and creative people around him, unlike the current WallStreet boys who only have money to invest on the poorer man/women BIG ideas like Romney.

He was a genius because he was able to understand those happy accidents.
Most of the great science discoveries were happy accident. If those scientist were not trained to understand them, those activities would have remained undiscovered.

Do you know why thr Higgs boson particle is called Boson?
To acknowledge Boson, which was an Indian scientists.

Ideas are stream of conscience, they are out there flowing, to grab one you have to be prepared, you cannot prepare yourself alone - you need input from others.

Again accept that and give Jobs and Apple credit. Almost to understand Apple it is to strip-yourself of some dogmas/beliefs.
 
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whatever, Stanley Kubrick had a vision of ipads 15 years earlier in 1968 when the astronauts used them in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
 
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