When I heard the news, I shed some tears, and it kept coming and going. I tried to hold myself and not cry. And then I went to bed. When I woke up, the pillow was soaking wet, I must have cried all night during my sleep.
Steve Jobs' Funeral Today, No Public Memorial Event Planned
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When I heard the news, I shed some tears, and it kept coming and going. I tried to hold myself and not cry. And then I went to bed. When I woke up, the pillow was soaking wet, I must have cried all night during my sleep.
TheAppleGeek
macrumors 6502a
I had a nice, long conversation about how awesome Steve was at work today. I wondered when his funeral was going to be. I don't believe the news has fully sunk in, but regardless, RIP Steve Jobs.
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I love seeing these posts on the internet. People that absolutely despise Apple still respected him.
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I love seeing these posts on the internet. People that absolutely despise Apple still respected him.
needthephone
macrumors 6502a
That is so apple, so Steve Jobs.
Simple, dignified, dare I say it classy and Stylish.
not some gaudy state funeral.
less is More
Simple, dignified, dare I say it classy and Stylish.
not some gaudy state funeral.
less is More
I respect jobs, but I hope he gives a significant fortune to charity like Bill Gates. Gates already asked him and he refused. It doesn't take billions to take care of your family.
Gates is a generous guy. In the days to come we will find out if Steve is a gregarious or not?
Jobs is not known for charitable contributions and Gates is well known for this.
Who is the better person we have to wait and see?
Gates is a generous guy. In the days to come we will find out if Steve is a gregarious or not?
Jobs is not known for charitable contributions and Gates is well known for this.
Who is the better person we have to wait and see?
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I think it is more that he didn't want the recognition for it. Gates always takes it public while Jobs is very private about his contributions.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
I have always heard Jobs was not the charity type. Why do you equate no recognition as being private about his giving as opposed to just not giving at all?
What makes him or someone great? If it's money he is like #40. Gates is #2. Gates may have copied but Jobs ignored Gates letters to Jobs to license Apple's OS. Steve refused. Steve's biggest mistake ever.
Of course Amiga was way ahead of Apple and MS (in terms of technology) at the time, but they didn't have the resources to market the Amiga. Omiga OS 50% ahead of Apple at that time and X95% way ahead of Microshit.
Of course Amiga was way ahead of Apple and MS (in terms of technology) at the time, but they didn't have the resources to market the Amiga. Omiga OS 50% ahead of Apple at that time and X95% way ahead of Microshit.
There's an old proverb: Give someone a fish and you feed him for a day; Teach someone to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. It doesn't apply exactly to this situation but I think the idea can be understood.
I don't know if Steve gave to charity in private. My view is that one does not need to give cold hard cash and shout it out from the top of the buildings to be a valuable member of society (that is what we mean by being a good person, right? ... to be a useful and valuable member of society?) To give people the tools with which they can accomplish their tasks both more efficiently and to a greater extent is better, I think, than to give them cold hard cash. Monetary contributions are important too, don't get me wrong. But it is only a beginning, not everything.
I think to judge SJ on the basis of his (lack of) publicly announced monetary contributions to charity is to miss the forest for the trees.
http://blogs.hbr.org/pallotta/2011/..._-Steve+Jobs,+World's+Greatest+Philanthropist
This article sums up very nicely what you just talking about. Everyone should read this.
His widow Laurene is involved in a bunch of non-profits mostly with an educational focus, and has founded some herself. She's even more private than Steve ever was.
It's doubtful that she would have married a complete tightwad based on what she considers important in her life.
Based on Steve's personality, it is highly likely that he was charitable, but instructed all of the beneficiaries to label his contributions as anonymous. Like anything else, he was probably very deliberate about his private financial moves.
He was quite charitable to the local Woodside schools until the town of Woodside started to dick him around about the Jackling House demolition. He finally said "enough is enough" and stopped his contributions to the local schools.
Gates has done great things with his fortune in recent years however he was a notorious tightwad earlier in his life. His mom (former United Way board member) apparently told him to loosen his purse strings and by the time the DOJ was investigating antitrust allegations against Microsoft, there were probably other folks whispering in his ear, including his wife who as a former Microsoft PR flack (specifically his "handler"), knew the benefits of putting on a nice face.
Melinda Gates polished up and softened hubby's appearance and demeanor considerably. I'd give her at least half the credit in the couple's current philanthropic efforts.
Bill's mom used her expertise in setting up the Gates Foundation and nurtured it in its early years before Bill made major moves with the charity's endowment. She was old-school, from one of Seattle's oldest banking families. It just took her a few years to pound some sense into her bratty son's skull who was born into a privileged upbringing (Lakeside Prep, Harvard). Upper class kids are some of the most ungrateful, over-entitled people on this planet.
It's good to see that Bill moved on from that phase because he lived it for a long time. A lot of them never do.
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MartiNZ
macrumors 65816
With that commencement speech still going around in my head, I'm starting to read some of these posts as if they were written/said by Steve himself. This one fits that pretty well, and I think is worthy of such.
I hope that Steve opted instead to have his body (or at least his head) cryogenically preserved. Seems a shame to just let his brain be lost forever.
mac*jedi*g
macrumors regular
Actually, I've been holding out for his signature:
"Oh.... One more thing...."
We will all miss you.... Steve.
"Oh.... One more thing...."
We will all miss you.... Steve.
tonydickinson
macrumors member
Steve, Apple where to now?
I like so many millions have admired Steve Jobs drive and enthusiasm for years, I have many Apple products and dealt directly with Steve's department when I had a problem with the original iMac 24 inch. The problem was eventually sorted but not without some annoyance at the attitude presented.
I have absolutely no doubt that Apple will move on as the team is still there and there will be 5 or 10 year plan, but I would ask Tim Cook to look seriously at the ongoing lawsuits particularly with Samsung. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery and it is human nature that others will try and take advantage of a known successful item and try to copy it.
Nokia, Ericsson, and Samsung have been making phones for years and in many respects the iPhone was the first successful smartphone that is easy to use, the ease of adding applications and firmware upgrades (software support) is where Steve recognized there was a real need for improvement. I recall Creative Technologies which produced great items likely better made and more innovative than Apple produced, but their software was always lousy and too little attention was paid to that, and their collaboration wit Apple ended on a sour note as CEO Sim Wong Hoo failed to listen, and the ipod was born with a great deal of Creatives know how. Apple paid Creative a large sum of money for their patents and to this day creative has failed to learn the lesson.
I would ask Tim Cook to seriously look at the current lawsuits that they have on hand and to be very wise in his decisions as to what course of action to take as he is now the BOSS and will take responsibility for Apple's future without Steve Jobs.
I cannot be totally sure, but I am sure that there is a iPhone5 ready in the wings which cannot be launched as Samsung would take action to prevent it being sold in certain countries, and that is perhaps why the iPhone 4S was a let down to some fanboys. If my assumptions are correct then please think Carefully Tim as you will always be copied and I am sure that your time will be better spent in being visionary rather than protective.
I love Apple - but please start a "new page" as after all competition even if it is seen as "copying" will always be there.
I like so many millions have admired Steve Jobs drive and enthusiasm for years, I have many Apple products and dealt directly with Steve's department when I had a problem with the original iMac 24 inch. The problem was eventually sorted but not without some annoyance at the attitude presented.
I have absolutely no doubt that Apple will move on as the team is still there and there will be 5 or 10 year plan, but I would ask Tim Cook to look seriously at the ongoing lawsuits particularly with Samsung. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery and it is human nature that others will try and take advantage of a known successful item and try to copy it.
Nokia, Ericsson, and Samsung have been making phones for years and in many respects the iPhone was the first successful smartphone that is easy to use, the ease of adding applications and firmware upgrades (software support) is where Steve recognized there was a real need for improvement. I recall Creative Technologies which produced great items likely better made and more innovative than Apple produced, but their software was always lousy and too little attention was paid to that, and their collaboration wit Apple ended on a sour note as CEO Sim Wong Hoo failed to listen, and the ipod was born with a great deal of Creatives know how. Apple paid Creative a large sum of money for their patents and to this day creative has failed to learn the lesson.
I would ask Tim Cook to seriously look at the current lawsuits that they have on hand and to be very wise in his decisions as to what course of action to take as he is now the BOSS and will take responsibility for Apple's future without Steve Jobs.
I cannot be totally sure, but I am sure that there is a iPhone5 ready in the wings which cannot be launched as Samsung would take action to prevent it being sold in certain countries, and that is perhaps why the iPhone 4S was a let down to some fanboys. If my assumptions are correct then please think Carefully Tim as you will always be copied and I am sure that your time will be better spent in being visionary rather than protective.
I love Apple - but please start a "new page" as after all competition even if it is seen as "copying" will always be there.
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the8thark
macrumors 601
Jobs was generous. Jobs gave his time. So much of it, he even said he agreed to the biography so his children could know him better. Now that is dedication and giving of your self. So much so that he gave up family time so we the public could have the best products/services.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...hy_so_his_children_could_know_him_better.html
I don't think we fully understand that things Jobs personally sacrificed to do what he did at Apple. But when we read the book we will.
Some people give money. Others give their time. Neither is a better or worse giving of yourself. Both are equally important and needed.
I doubt if there will be a grave site at all let alone one with public access. If he follows Buddhist traditions, his body is burned in a funeral pyre and then ashes are stored in a urn and kept in the family residence. I don't think they want anything as the screwed up condition of Jim Morrison's grave and the like.
Maybe people like to give without letting the whole world talking about it.
A few religions/beliefs encourage not seeking attention from charity, perhaps its the same with Buddhism
A few religions/beliefs encourage not seeking attention from charity, perhaps its the same with Buddhism
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
We have no idea if Jobs was charitable or not. Based on all his wife does, I'd say there were.
Laurene Powell Jobs helps change lives, too
From Cult of Mac:
Interesting but it is not a huge amount of money tbh, after taxes and death duties and so on it would not be enough to change the world, Buffett and Gates have 10 times that amount and more to give away.
Sure Steve's wealth might be enough to build a hospital or a couple of schools but in Silicon Valley $6.5bn (about £4.5bn) is not a large amount of money