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Steve Jobs Had a Liver Transplant Two Months Ago
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i am both happy and sad about this. happy that steve is going to be fine and that he's going to return to apple. but sad that this means that he's gonna have to get started on that bucket list. get better soon steve!
What absolute crap. There is no reason why Steve won't live for a long time, there is obviously a risk that things will not work but there is a very good chance he will be fine.
People can talk rubbish about things they have no idea.
go read up on liver transplants, if he does live for 5 more years he'll need another and another....thats assuming he makes it.
My regards to Mr. Jobs and his family. With that said this is a serious matter and his life expectancy has been dramatically shortened. Working in the medical field this is no light matter. Most operations as such are prolonging the enivitable. Some only survive 8 years at best. Apple is going to have to imagine life without Steve and Steve is going to have to decide just how much longer he will hold his postion because the stress and work method he lives by is only taxing his beaten body.
I hope his recovery goes well, he returns to full health and (less importantly, in the grand scheme of things) he's back at Apple's helm soon.
Having said that - those of you that have consistently mocked/flamed other people on these forums for wondering aloud if Apple was misleading people about Steve's condition: Please remember this story, since all the past ones somehow get forgotten. Don't take what you're spoon-fed regarding Job's health as gospel. I'm sure Apple is not happy this has come out at all, and over the past few years they've consistently done their best to disguise Job's health problems as much as possible.
Having said that - those of you that have consistently mocked/flamed other people on these forums for wondering aloud if Apple was misleading people about Steve's condition: Please remember this story, since all the past ones somehow get forgotten. Don't take what you're spoon-fed regarding Job's health as gospel. I'm sure Apple is not happy this has come out at all, and over the past few years they've consistently done their best to disguise Job's health problems as much as possible.
It's all about karma since SJ is Buddhist. He may have deprived someone in Tennessee who's seriously in need of a liver transplant by jumping the queue. Hope he gets better. But don't think he could escape the fate of karma eventually. He needs to be a better person.
God Bless you Steve
I can't imagine what you're going through.
We all seem to forget that he's a human being.
I can't imagine what you're going through.
We all seem to forget that he's a human being.
The liver transplant was the surprise.
I am not a doctor so I won't speculate why.
Hope Steve's doing better.
The only reason to get a liver transplant with Jobs' medial history is due to a tumor that has metastasized to his liver.
This is far far more serious than all the various lies that were told by Apple all along. Simple GI bug....seeking a relative simple treatment for the nutritional ailment.,,, hormone imbalance.... can't absorb protein due to the surgery he had....
Apple did ultimately release a statement saying that Jobs was taking a leave of absence as the health issues were more complex than originally thought.
Is the SEC going to be angry about this?
Hopefully Steve can recover and put all of this crap behind him in the next few months.
I expect Apple to officially name Tim Cook Steve's replacement this week since SJ will go "part time". By the way, the whole story is an absolute leak from Apple/SJ. WSJ didn't figure this out themselves. It is the oldest trick in the book- a media dump at midnight on Friday. Stocks won't fall as much on Monday, 2 days after people have had time to absorb/analyze.
Maybe it will be Apple's ultimate product announcement-- announce Tim Cook as the new CEO simultaneously as the rumored tablet device is announced. SJ makes an appearance, shows the tablet, and announces his replacement as a "one last thing".
This is far far more serious than all the various lies that were told by Apple all along. Simple GI bug....seeking a relative simple treatment for the nutritional ailment.,,, hormone imbalance.... can't absorb protein due to the surgery he had....
Apple did ultimately release a statement saying that Jobs was taking a leave of absence as the health issues were more complex than originally thought.
Is the SEC going to be angry about this?
Hopefully Steve can recover and put all of this crap behind him in the next few months.
I expect Apple to officially name Tim Cook Steve's replacement this week since SJ will go "part time". By the way, the whole story is an absolute leak from Apple/SJ. WSJ didn't figure this out themselves. It is the oldest trick in the book- a media dump at midnight on Friday. Stocks won't fall as much on Monday, 2 days after people have had time to absorb/analyze.
Maybe it will be Apple's ultimate product announcement-- announce Tim Cook as the new CEO simultaneously as the rumored tablet device is announced. SJ makes an appearance, shows the tablet, and announces his replacement as a "one last thing".
Here is the problem. We don't know the exact type of pancreatic cancer he has. Assuming it has spread to his liver as assumed in this case it may well have seeded many of his other organs. Assuming the physicians on his case know what they are doing there would be a reason for this transplant when people going through fulminant hepatitis, liver toxicity, or cirrhosis would get the transplant first rather than someone with metastatic pancreatic cancer which is something, in most cases, isn't even treated except for palliative care.
So without knowing the specifics of his case I don't think we can say how long he will survive. Assuming there was no cancer spreading beyond his liver perhaps his chances of survival aren't as bad as one would think based on a normal pancreatic cancer that spreads everywhere before diagnosis.
Very temporary? Jobs has survived for two months which means that he has gotten past the highest risk period of transplantation (acute rejection). Assuming he keeps up on his antirejection medications and doesn't die of an infection he could live for a long time. Everyone with transplant runs the risk of chronic rejection (something that is hard to prevent) and infection (something every person with a transplant receives prophylactic antibiotics, antivirals, and antifungals against) but it's certainly not an immediate death sentence. Many people (more than 50%) survive 10 years post transplant.
You have to remember that the statistics are including many people with other conditions such as chronic hepatitis viruses B/C, HIV, and alcohol abuse. These things don't go away just because you get a new liver. So for individuals with fewer co-morbid conditions like these survival can be better assuming no rejection takes place. We don't know what has happened with his cancer, but that is the primary determinant of his survival.
If...If...If...
The reason for this personal problem is unknown (and should stay unknown), but boldly claiming it's related to previous conditions is tricky. There are a lot of reasons why the liver can fail, and metastasis is just one.
My thoughts go out to Mr. Jobs and people close to him.
The reason for this personal problem is unknown (and should stay unknown), but boldly claiming it's related to previous conditions is tricky. There are a lot of reasons why the liver can fail, and metastasis is just one.
My thoughts go out to Mr. Jobs and people close to him.
"The real scandal is that how did he bypass or even get on the waiting list at all? "
Evidently there is NOT just one list for the country. The wait in Tennessee is 48 days.
I'm just guessing but: I guess you get on the list in Tennessee on the condition you can be in that hospital bed within a couple of hours notice. Again, just guessing. So he waited the average 48 days (for Tennessee -- didn't bypass anyone) and flew out there on a private jet when the iPhone rang. I bet he demanded to see it first - no way he wants one that aint good lookin'. As far as people dying while waiting, if they are in a place with a long average wait time - that's different. So, if you ever need one, move to Tennessee.
Evidently there is NOT just one list for the country. The wait in Tennessee is 48 days.
I'm just guessing but: I guess you get on the list in Tennessee on the condition you can be in that hospital bed within a couple of hours notice. Again, just guessing. So he waited the average 48 days (for Tennessee -- didn't bypass anyone) and flew out there on a private jet when the iPhone rang. I bet he demanded to see it first - no way he wants one that aint good lookin'.
As far as people dying while waiting, if they are in a place with a long average wait time - that's different. So, if you ever need one, move to Tennessee.
oh no~
I wish speedy recovery and health.
Why is everyone surprised of this secret. Its a private matter plus Apple is good with secrets.
I wish speedy recovery and health.
Why is everyone surprised of this secret. Its a private matter plus Apple is good with secrets.
Uhh. Not quite sure how to respond to the needing "to be a better person" conjecture. Let us remember that he is human, nobody wants wants to have cancer of any form, and PC is DEFINITELY NOT friendly. He was fortunate to have the much rarer form, with a slightly better prognosis. I'm confident that there was nothing unfair about the timeliness of his TX. The real oversight was an apparent HIPAA violation (assuming it was not leaked by his own kin). I think all we can do is hope for a speedy and full recovery, regardless of what medical statistics indicate for someone in his position. That's probably what you would do for your own family and/or loved ones.
Really? I thought I read a year or so ago that the type of cancer he had and the time frame in which it was treated had a very good prognosis. I'm not a doctor, so I don't claim to know what I am talking about and it is distinctly possible I was reading incorrect information.
EDIT: Reading the post above me made me think I should edit. Even when I read that, I realized that "very good" was definitely a relative term.