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Steve Jobs Has Passed Away

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ZimTheMan said:
This is the problem I'm having. Does it reflect positively on our society that, instead of honoring those who dedicate their lives to service without anything in return, we weep for those who dedicate their lives to profit and providing high quality personal devices?

I don't think so.
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Zim,

Please provide an example of someone who dedicates their life to service and gets nothing in return. I know of none. If your Christian, even Christ was moving his Fathers plan forward (i.e. He got something).

If your point is there are people that don't appear to be rewarded enough for what they do, then answer this question. What if Steve was? What if Steve was rewarded proportionately to all the change he had been responsible for over the past 30 years?

Your argument, "because Steve ran a company, took care of his family, and made something that impacted people all over the world, he obviously wasn't out for the public good," doesn't seem to match the reality we live in.

I'm thinking about all the family problems Steve was known to have.
You're right, I made that up. It's likely he was no saint, but he never claimed to be one. And I personally don't have a reason to believe he was anything but a wonderful father and husband.

What about all the affairs?
Nope, he was a good example of marital fidelity.

Environmentalism?
Yup, good example, his company, his legacy, leads the way in green efforts.

I know, what about charitable donations?
Appears this would be speculation

Now for the flip side. Walk up to a public servant (Police, Fire, medical, military) and ask them how unhappy they would be to receive a 100% pay increase. How much do you want to bet you wouldn't find anyone that would turn it down?

I get that there are lots of people who aren't properly recognized for what they sacrifice for. Does that mean we need to verbally assail the few that may actually be rewarded proportionately? And especially in a memorial?
 
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ZimTheMan said:
But let's keep that in perspective, he was a great business man with excellent marketing and product brand skills.

It's not as if he split the atom, negotiated an Israeli/Palestinian peace deal, or cured cancer.
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No, but he did give people that do those things, the tools to do those things. Is there some reason you are trying so hard to minimize the value of his contribution to society?
 
ZimTheMan said:
"…it is very possible that Mr. Jobs, who has always preferred to remain private, has donated money anonymously or has drafted a plan to give away his wealth upon his death. (There has long been speculation that an anonymous $150 million donation to the Helen Diller Family Comprehensive Cancer Center at the University of California, San Francisco may have come from Mr. Jobs.)"

I'm not sure I understand why you would speculate that he DID donate $$ anonymously in the same way that I don't know why someone would speculate that he would anonymously molest children? Neither makes sense to me, so why speculate?
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Wrong, one does make sense. It fits with what was publicly known about Steve. The other speculation you submit doesn't match ANYTHING that was known about him in anyway. Are you saying the only way that Steve could have done something notable was to draw attention to himself donating? So that's what charity is about, everyone knowing you did it?

The only thing you can say (and I can say) is that we don't know for sure if he did or didn't donate to charity. I'm not going to speculate he didn't. I'm not going to guarantee he did (I have no personal knowledge either way, as I said). And since you don't have any personal knowledge either way, I suggest you move to a topic you do have personal knowledge of.
 
kd5jos said:
Wrong, one does make sense. It fits with what was publicly known about Steve. The other speculation you submit doesn't match ANYTHING that was known about him in anyway. Are you saying the only way that Steve could have done something notable was to draw attention to himself donating? So that's what charity is about, everyone knowing you did it?

The only thing you can say (and I can say) is that we don't know for sure if he did or didn't donate to charity. I'm not going to speculate he didn't. I'm not going to guarantee he did (I have no personal knowledge either way, as I said). And since you don't have any personal knowledge either way, I suggest you move to a topic you do have personal knowledge of.
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I have always found it incredibly tacky and "look at me" the idea of celebrities publicly announcing charity donations, Steve was not a "look at me" person, he was more the low key type of person, Steve hated personal publicity with a passion so is exactly the type that would make a donation to something and force everyone concerned to sign a watertight NDA about it.

Steve was not an attention whore, did he definitely give to charity ? No I can't prove that but that $150m donation to that cancer hospital in California has Steve's style all over it
 
kd5jos said:
No, but he did give people that do those things, the tools to do those things. Is there some reason you are trying so hard to minimize the value of his contribution to society?
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Even if he didn't give a cent to charity in his lifetime I wouldn't personally give a ****, he gave a lot to the world, his time, his genius, changed the world for the better, that is more rewarding to the world the fact that hundreds of millions of people's lives around the planet were improved thanks to Steve's work, that is better than any cheque being written out to a charity.

The education, healthcare and aviation sectors are all massively improved thanks to Steve's gift to the world of his genius and innovation, the lives of pilots, doctors, teachers, school children, blind people have all been enriched by Steve's work, blind people having better quaility of life thanks to an iPad is far more rewarding than bailing out drunks and drug addicts.
 
We will always miss you!! RIP

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CWT1965 said:
Even if he didn't give a cent to charity in his lifetime I wouldn't personally give a ****, he gave a lot to the world, his time, his genius, changed the world for the better, that is more rewarding to the world the fact that hundreds of millions of people's lives around the planet were improved thanks to Steve's work, that is better than any cheque being written out to a charity.

The education, healthcare and aviation sectors are all massively improved thanks to Steve's gift to the world of his genius and innovation, the lives of pilots, doctors, teachers, school children, blind people have all been enriched by Steve's work, blind people having better quaility of life thanks to an iPad is far more rewarding than bailing out drunks and drug addicts.
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Real cash donation only can help people for a short period of time. His story, his toughness, his working attitude will provide the best example for people all over the world! This is PRICELESS and last forever!!

Bill Gates donates tones of money to the world, but I believe Steve's story will stay in our heart forever.
 
newipad2 said:
We will always miss you!! RIP

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Real cash donation only can help people for a short period of time. His story, his toughness, his working attitude will provide the best example for people all over the world! This is PRICELESS and last forever!!

Bill Gates donates tones of money to the world, but I believe Steve's story will stay in our heart forever.
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Exactly, Steve Jobs has and will inspire people to start businesses, make successes of their lives, have a work ethic, never give up no matter what the odds etc Steve was and always will be an inspiration and role model to many so even if he is not here in body he will be there in spirit right across the world inspiring people
 
I haven't logged in for more than 4 years, mostly because 2 of those years were spent working for Apple.

Steve was more than inspiring to everyone. He taught us that "thinking different" was more than just innovating, but plainly just being yourself and being comfortable enough to express your worth to the world. I will miss his presence. Knowing he will have no more keynotes, and of course, waiting for him to say "One more thing"....



One more thing... Long live Apple =)
 
God bless steve jobs!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve was not only one of founders of computer technology, he also taught us that computer technology can be powerful, beautiful and easy to use.

With God's permission, I can't wait to see what Steve does to computerize heaven.
 
I just sent this e-mail to rememberingsteve@apple.com, I was really saddened when I heard the news of his death, wasn't expecting it so soon! Really wasn't... :confused:

A visionary, a mentor, and a friend... without ever having met, or spoken, in person!
That’s the best way I have to describe Steve, truly one of the greatest human beings that ever lived.

“There's no reason, he adds, that Steve Jobs should get fewer pages than Ben Franklin or Albert Einstein, the subjects of two previous Isaacson biographies.”
Philip Elmer-DeWitt, Fortune
I think he really shouldn’t, because neither Ben Franklin nor Einstein had the chance (and the brilliance) to alter so much lives in such a direct way. I deeply believe we, as the global society we represent, are yet to witness and to understand the true meaning of the legacy Steve left to us all.


Thank you Steve, and your family – Apple of course included!
Too early, but packed with intensity and intervention...







Pico,
from Oporto, Portugal – Europe
sent from my :apple: MacbookPro 13”
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We'll miss you Steve, all of us, even the ones who don't realize it...
 
*****. I am a pragmatic, relatively successful professional with a bckground of detached, empirical reasoning. I love my daughters and wife, but barely registered the death of my grandfather. However I wake every morning at the moment and think about what we have lost.

We have lost something special and I have thought that for many many years. SJ knew he was special, but nobody that good really knows it.

We have lost such vision and none of us will ever know how much,because we are not him.
 
Will definitely miss you every time I use any apple product. That is to say, every second I'm not sleeping.
 
Mr. Jobs, I never got the chance to meet you, but I just want to say thanks for changing the world, providing people with innovative technology to let them be creative. Thanks for giving me opportunities I never thought I would have. And most of all, thanks for being someone for me to look up to.
 
WilliamG said:
If you believe that was real, which it obviously wasn't. At 7 seconds, the piano stops and he's still slamming the screen. Fake is as fake does.

That said, I love my iPad, but let's be serious here... :)
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Real or not, I think you missed the point. When else have you ever seen a device of that type in a situation of that type?
 
I'm just watching one of my favourite Podcast's, the 2010 All Things D interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher ... brilliant stuff, 1 hour and 35 minutes of Steve at his best.
 
macjock said:
Real or not, I think you missed the point. When else have you ever seen a device of that type in a situation of that type?
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I didn't miss any point. I think it actually detracted from Jobs' message. Using a popular device to do something ridiculous and fake doesn't carry the message. It's actually sad because playing the piano on the iPad is something many of us wish were possible. Yes, there are piano apps, but they are not the same. This on-stage facade just highlights this.

I guess it depends on your take. I definitely thought it was funny, but hardly worth a mention in this thread. But that's just my $0.02.
 
The most beautiful technological adventure I ever had

I'll miss you Steve
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It's just so damn sad. It makes me cry to think that we are never going to see him on stage again in his trainers, jeans, and turtleneck sweater. You are now introducing the 4S to god, thanks for everything Steve.
 
bobbleheadbob said:
I think there are a lot of us feeling that way now. And I'm afraid (for me at least) that it's a feeling which won't end for a long while.
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Gotta agree with that. It has been three days now and I have gotten to talk to more people who understand where I'm coming from. Posting and reading on here is one thing; actually talking about it is another. I have benefitted from both, but I know that I will go on thinking and talking about it for at least weeks to come; there are other people specifically that I don't see so often but really want to discuss it all with.

It was really great to see how this as a front page story kept on being updated during the first day, and indeed beyond, as with the Woz video, which I saw because I was showing my mother the commencement speech, which is still the most powerful thing out of all of it for me - it is indeed just in line with what Steve was about that I am seeing these things and thinking "I have to show people this, they have to know! - that is how he approached all those keynotes ... it is just that the emotion is different.
 
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