Steve Jobs' Infamous Temper Lives on at Apple in Bug-Wrangler Kim Vorrath

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Steve Jobs was infamous for his temper, with a famous story about him blowing up at the MobileMe team following a rocky rollout of that service in 2008.

    However, Jobs isn't the only employee at Apple with a short fuse. A profile in The Information studies Kim Vorrath, Apple's vice president in charge of "program management" for both iOS and OS X. She supervises Apple's thorough testing process to discover bugs and is the final arbiter of deadlines to ensure that software updates come out on time.

    One story in particular, relayed by Business Insider, tells of Vorrath's displeasure when she found out a co-worker was leaving work early before the launch of the first iPhone in 2007.
    The Information says Vorrath has been working at Apple since 1987, starting as an intern and eventually becoming chief of staff for Scott Forstall. Now, she is said to be working directly beneath Apple executive Craig Federighi, who is in charge of Apple's software engineering teams.

    Article Link: Steve Jobs' Infamous Temper Lives on at Apple in Bug-Wrangler Kim Vorrath
  2. impulse462 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2009
    "..locked herself in." Sounds like a whiny little ass if you ask me.
  3. xNYMetsx macrumors 6502


    Jul 17, 2013
  4. spyguy10709 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 5, 2010
    One Infinite Loop, Cupertino CA
    That's... Violent...
  5. SandboxGeneral Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    Orbiting a G-type Main Sequence Star
    Hahaha, that's hilarious! :D
  6. losthorse, Apr 22, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2014

    losthorse macrumors member

    Nov 19, 2012
  7. valanchan macrumors member

    Jan 6, 2008
    She's been working there for nearly 30 years and this shows she's got a hot temper?

    Slow news day?
  8. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816

    Apr 19, 2014
    She has a baseball bat just laying around in her office?
  9. KdParker macrumors 601


    Oct 1, 2010
    seems like someone with a bad attitude that should have developed some better management skills in 30 years.

  10. Chatter macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2013
    Uphill from Downtown
    Luckily no one asked you. But you do sound like one, if you ask me. :cool:
  11. SHirsch999 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 19, 2011
    I leave one in my car. You never know when a softball game is going to break out.
  12. rorschach macrumors 68020


    Jul 27, 2003
  13. Makosuke macrumors 603

    Aug 15, 2001
    The Cool Part of CA, USA
    Thanks for that link--it mentions the same story, but is phrased much more clearly as to what happened and why there was a baseball bat involved:

    As worded in the quote on the MR post, it sounds like she intentionally locked herself in and Forestall took up a baseball bat to violently get her out of her office. The Wired story, however, makes it clear that the temper part was her slamming the door so hard that it broke the handle, which trapped her in her own office. The baseball bat was to free her, not force her out. Which makes it clear that, yes, she has a temper, but she's not nuts.

    Compare to:

    It's amazing how much difference the phrasing can make in the way a story is interpreted. While the second quote is technically true, by saying "and she locked herself in" rather than "locking her in" or "trapping her in the room", it leaves it open to wild misinterpretation of what was going on.
  14. TechGod macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    So if a guy did it's OK and he can let of steam but if its a woman with the same reaction, she's a bitch? That's what I interpret it as
  15. samcraig, Apr 22, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2014

    samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Who gets to yell at her? If she's responsible for testing, I'd say quite a few things have gotten past her... And yet she's not the one grabbing headlines on the tech sites as being remotely responsible.
  16. coolfactor macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2002
    Vancouver, BC CANADA
    Give it a rest.
  17. a0me macrumors 65816


    Oct 5, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    Why do you think Apple is building their brand new campus for?
  18. mdridwan47 macrumors 6502


    Jan 20, 2014
    Whatever you do, don't let her see the iOS 7 icons...
  19. impulse462 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2009
    I'm sure. This is a forum where I give my opinion. I think you forgot about that.

    Never said she was an ass because she was a woman. If a guy pulled a similar stunt, my reaction would have been the same.
  20. Traverse macrumors 603


    Mar 11, 2013
    And here I thought it was relatively piece full in there...:confused:
  21. TBV macrumors newbie

    Apr 22, 2014
    Mountain View
    Wait...who's the whiny ass?

    Just pointing out that this occurred in 2007... What year is this? (It's 2014. Just pointing that out in case you didn't realize.) Also, what's YOUR job? Maybe uneducated college student? Unemployed "computer programmer"? I think you might be doing something wrong in your're not as enough of a "whiny little ass"... Or many too much of one. :apple:
  22. macs4nw macrumors 68040


    The original story said: "A product manager slammed the door to her office so hard that the handle bent and locked her in".

    Hey, we shouldn't judge; excessive stress does different things to different people. If it wasn't for people like her who care that much about perfection, Apple wouldn't be what it is today.

    Besides, this kind of stuff probably goes on in many companies with deadlines looming, but we don't hear about it.
  23. LordQ macrumors 68040


    Sep 22, 2012
    So she's responsible for quick reply still not in iOS?
  24. impulse462 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2009
    My job has nothing to do with it. Also quite to the contrary, if I'm in college, I am getting "educated." I'm liking the personal insults I'm receiving based off of my opinion on this. Also the year it happened has nothing to do with it as I didn't hear about it until now. Unless she was a 12 year old 7 years ago, and then went through puberty, I hardly doubt it makes a difference.

    In my opinion, slamming the door and locking yourself in the room because you are angry seems like something a 16 year old would do when told by their parents they can't hang out with friends due to bad grades. It doesn't seem like the behavior of a vice president at Apple. People get angry; it happens. How you deal with it shows your maturity.

    You are right. Stress does affect people differently, so it may not be my position to judge.

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