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:confused: Do you not read the comment threads on this and every other forum in existence? Apple has got to be the most polarizing subject of discussion ever to exist on the internet.

Apple isn't polarizing. It's the my-way-or-the-highway forum posters who are polarizing.
 
They can give away their softwares dirt cheap or free to students then when the students get to real life they can convince their employers to buy it up and they will more than make up their share after corp XYZ blows a wad on CALs base software, support contracts, and upgrades.

M$ is doing this because it helps M$. Apple sells software but is at the end of the day a hardware shop. They can't give 'it' (physical assets) away to millions of students. Maybe iPods but certainly not Mac Pros, minis.

And yet not matter how you cut it ms go es away the most money and services than any other company and still does it. While some is like you said others is because it is the right thing to do.
Apple used to have good edu support but that has been going downhill since SJ came back.
A company with as much profit as Apple and the size of Apple should give back but it has way to much greed for that. It is a good reflection of the cep who has failed to keep a promise he made in a 1997.
 
A company with as much profit as Apple and the size of Apple should give back

Give back what? Did they take anything?
but it has way to much greed for that.

So what. Just give us more Apple gear. That's all that matters. Apple can be as greedy as they like as long as they keep making products. That's the point.
It is a good reflection of the cep who has failed to keep a promise he made in a 1997.

What was this explicit, stated promise, aside from promising to return Apple back to profitability by making great products?
 
Why do a lot of people think that they deserve a slice of Steve's pie? Steve brought back a company from nothing, and I do not care what people think of him as a person, he is no politician. Do any of you ever look at the 10k or 10Q's in depth and see what Apple pays in taxes?? Where do you think that money goes besides the military? Maybe the government should have a budget and then allocate some of that to rebuilding America, rather than trying to be world police.

Great Story by the way. I loved the one about the guy who had to give back his ipad because his wife said no, and then Apple sent him one saying yes. Apple is clearly a terrible and self centered company. :rolleyes::apple:
 
So what. Just give us more Apple gear. That's all that matters. Apple can be as greedy as they like as long as they keep making products. That's the point.

Sometimes you come across a comment that leaves you speechless…

Really *LTD*… Really?
What an odd world you must live in.
 
I can see how the Ipad would be a great aide to the sight impared. Being able to zoom into text very easily is a very nice feature. I currently don't have an Ipad, but use my Iphone quite abit to web browse in bed. It does bug me when a website detects my mobile browser, and does not allow me to zoom in on text and pictures (fark.com is really bad about this).

Kudo's to SJ for picking up on this story.
 
Give back what? Did they take anything?


So what. Just give us more Apple gear. That's all that matters. Apple can be as greedy as they like as long as they keep making products. That's the point.


What was this explicit, stated promise, aside from promising to return Apple back to profitability by making great products?

So by your logic Apple could go around killing babies as long as they keep making great products.
And people wonder why apple fans are clueless mindless masses.
 
So by your logic Apple could go around killing babies as long as they keep making great products.
And people wonder why apple fans are clueless mindless masses.

What? Killing babies? WTF are you talking about?

You've got issues, man.

We're talking about developing and selling a product as a priority, over philanthropy. Nowhere in the conversation was there any reason to make the comparison you're making.
 
So by your logic Apple could go around killing babies as long as they keep making great products.
And people wonder why apple fans are clueless mindless masses.

No, it's comments like this that make "people wonder why apple fans are clueless and mindless masses".
Can't we just appreciate the good for this girl instead of turning it bad?
 
What? Killing babies? WTF are you talking about?

You've got issues, man.

We're talking about developing and selling a product as a priority, over philanthropy. Nowhere in the conversation was there any reason to make the comparison you're making.

No I was making a point and you clearly missed it. Your logic is that simple and you are now caught. It is pretty clear you do not care to hold Apple to a higher standard. Apple has what 70 bill sitting in the bank and growing. They make insane profit and they are not willing to do any philanthropy. instead they just want more money.

Point is Apple is a piss poor citizen and should be held to a higher standard. Lets see the 3rd largest company gives the most money and services and Apple which I believe is the largest now gives 0. Something is wrong with that picture.

Try to understand the point. Apple should give money back and try to OMG help people out instead of trying to just pad their bottom line even some more. Best hope of that happening is after SJ is gone.



No, it's comments like this that make "people wonder why apple fans are clueless and mindless masses".
Can't we just appreciate the good for this girl instead of turning it bad?

yeah taht is what I get for typing that up while waiting for food on my phone.

It should be and "you wonder any Apple fans are thought of as ....."
 
No I was making a point and you clearly missed it. Your logic is that simple and you are now caught. It is pretty clear you do not care to hold Apple to a higher standard.

You missed this several posts up. As if anyone needs to include the proviso about acting legally. For you, however, it appears necessary.

Their job is turn a profit by creating and selling products and to do it within the limits of the law. That's it.

Seek help.
Point is Apple is a piss poor citizen and should be held to a higher standard. Lets see the 3rd largest company gives the most money and services and Apple which I believe is the largest now gives 0. Something is wrong with that picture.

No one actually cares. Your moralizing about Apple has *nothing* to do with product.
Apple should give money back

To who? For what?
and try to OMG help people out instead of trying to just pad their bottom line even some more.

Why should they? It's nice if they do, but there is no requirement. Corporate entities are judged on their material merits (oh, and whether or not they're "killing babies", LOL.)

The rest is gravy.
 
You missed this several posts up. As if anyone needs to include the proviso a.....

Legal does not make something right.

Clearly you do not understand that we should demand higher standards and demand that they do some things with there money other than just pad their bottom line.
LTD your post are an example of why Apple fans are though so low of and why Apple fans by mean are believe to not be able to think for themselves. Apple fan logic is believe Apple = right. Go against Apple = you suck.

Really demanding Apple do some good with their money other than paid there bottom line is not to much to ask but you do not get it. Heck if Apple could legally demand first borns and make people slave to get their products chances are you would support it. No matter how unmoral it is.
 
Really demanding Apple do some good with their money other than paid there bottom line is not to much to ask but you do not get it.
October 16, 2006 Silicon Color Software United States — [29]
December 4, 2006 Proximity Software Australia — [30]
April 24, 2008 P.A. Semi Semiconductors United States US$278,000,000 [31]
July 7, 2009 Placebase Maps United States — [32]
December 6, 2009 Lala.com Music streaming United States US$17,000,000 [33]
January 5, 2010 Quattro Wireless Mobile advertising United States US$275,000,000 [34]
April 27, 2010 Intrinsity Semiconductors United States US$121,000,000 [35]
April 27, 2010 Siri Software United States — [36]
July 14, 2010 Poly9 Web-based mapping Canada — [37]

Buying companies seems like a fun activity. I'm sure they're just hoarding cash to buy a country or something. Who wouldn't hold cash in this economy.
 
Are you alright?

The more you post the more outlandish your "examples" get.

No I choose it to make a point that clearly you are missing. Must be because even you have a line or you see that your entire argument falls apart when it is pointed out.

Leave the RDF for a while because it is pretty clear you live in that area.
 
Legal does not make something right.

Clearly you do not understand that we should demand higher standards and demand that they do some things with there money other than just pad their bottom line.
LTD your post are an example of why Apple fans are though so low of and why Apple fans by mean are believe to not be able to think for themselves. Apple fan logic is believe Apple = right. Go against Apple = you suck.

Really demanding Apple do some good with their money other than paid there bottom line is not to much to ask but you do not get it. Heck if Apple could legally demand first borns and make people slave to get their products chances are you would support it. No matter how unmoral it is.


Your posts lately are so far out in right field, you're outside the stadium.
 
October 16, 2006 Silicon Color Software United States — [29]
December 4, 2006 Proximity Software Australia — [30]
April 24, 2008 P.A. Semi Semiconductors United States US$278,000,000 [31]
July 7, 2009 Placebase Maps United States — [32]
December 6, 2009 Lala.com Music streaming United States US$17,000,000 [33]
January 5, 2010 Quattro Wireless Mobile advertising United States US$275,000,000 [34]
April 27, 2010 Intrinsity Semiconductors United States US$121,000,000 [35]
April 27, 2010 Siri Software United States — [36]
July 14, 2010 Poly9 Web-based mapping Canada — [37]

Buying companies seems like a fun activity. I'm sure they're just hoarding cash to buy a country or something. Who wouldn't hold cash in this economy.

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Errrr...me. Because if you actually had a look at the American financial situation you guys over the pond are just really really glad for the Greek crisis. If American rating agencies couldn't bet against the Euro your good old Greenback would go the way of the dodo faster than you can look.

Actually cash hording in the world economic situation is by far the dumbest thing you can do. But that's completely off-topic.

But, hey, if LTD can bla his post-PC era BS in here and tell everybody they are clueless - maybe you should just get a reality check, rethink the outcome and btw your carbin footprint for always buying the latest and greatest Apple gear.

Come on - what Apple really managed to do, and this is really smart, is to rebuild their image. Instead of lasting Macs (I'm still rocking my 2003 Powerbook now) they now give you iToys that are OBSOLETE within 2 generations - translated two years.

Genius marketing, genius revenue stream generation and spoonfed to the flock with genius marketing BS-phrases like "post PC era".

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