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Steve Jobs Inspired by 9-Year-Old's iPad Story

swagi said:
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Errrr...me. Because if you actually had a look at the American financial situation you guys over the pond are just really really glad for the Greek crisis. If American rating agencies couldn't bet against the Euro your good old Greenback would go the way of the dodo faster than you can look.

Actually cash hording in the world economic situation is by far the dumbest thing you can do. But that's completely off-topic.

But, hey, if LTD can bla his post-PC era BS in here and tell everybody they are clueless - maybe you should just get a reality check, rethink the outcome and btw your carbin footprint for always buying the latest and greatest Apple gear.

Come on - what Apple really managed to do, and this is really smart, is to rebuild their image. Instead of lasting Macs (I'm still rocking my 2003 Powerbook now) they now give you iToys that are OBSOLETE within 2 generations - translated two years.

Genius marketing, genius revenue stream generation and spoonfed to the flock with genius marketing BS-phrases like "post PC era".

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You can still buy "lasting Macs." They won't explode after a few years of use. Your 2003-era PowerBook still runs. It just won't run the latest OS X. Likewise, my early 2008 MacBook Pro will probably run just fine for another 4 years, but I can't expect to run the latest OS after all that time.

Apple has simply broadened their focus to extend into nearly every major aspect of consumer tech, with more than average success, while profiting from it. That's the point. That's the goal. You didn't expect Apple to make *only* computers did you? That would make no sense when there is such opportunity for expansion into other markets. Companies need to change and diversify with the times.

Those that don't (like RIM), usually pay heavy consequences.

Indeed, Apple's success in those other markets has actually broadened their experience and has resulted in better Macs and a better OS X. Consumers hand Apple record sales these days when it comes to Macs. Keep in mind, this wasn't always the case around 2002-2004.

The transition to mobile isn't just happening with Apple. It's happening industrywide, so yes, this "Post-PC era BS" is very real.

Most consumers are on board with it. It might be a good idea for you to follow suit at one time or another. Finding ways to enjoy these new platforms and fit them in to your daily life is time that is well-spent, rather than fighting against it, causing yourself more consternation in the process. Wouldn't you agree?
 
*LTD* said:
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Apple has simply broadened their focus to extend into nearly every major aspect of consumer tech, with more than average success, while profiting from it. That's the point. That's the goal. You didn't expect Apple to make *only* computers did you? That would make no sense when there is such opportunity for expansion into other markets. Companies need to change and diversify with the times.

Those that don't (like RIM), usually pay heavy consequences.

Indeed, Apple's success in those other markets has actually broadened their experience and has resulted in better Macs and a better OS X. Consumers hand Apple record sales these days when it comes to Macs. Keep in mind, this wasn't always the case around 2002-2004.

The transition to mobile isn't just happening with Apple. It's happening industrywide, so yes, this "Post-PC era BS" is very real.

Most consumers are on board with it. It might be a good idea for you to follow suit at one time or another. Finding ways to enjoy these new platforms and fit them in to your daily life is time that is well-spent, rather than fighting against it, causing yourself more consternation in the process. Wouldn't you agree?
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a.) Yeah, I knew we headed into that direction when Apple dropped the Computer moniker from their name.

b.) I could care less for Apple record sales. This doesn't give me any personal benefit and there is no relation to quality. See, a Quarterpounder or Whopper has record sales in contrast to a Grilled Chicken Salad. But we don't need to argue which one is the better choice. :D

c.) I personally disgust seeing more and more iOS-like features in OS X and rather have more power features like Open GL 4, newest Java SE and (now hold your breath) BluRay support out of the box.

d.) Maybe Apple should use their marketing power (and their obsolete hardware) to empower developing countries with the benefits of iOS. Millions of original iPhones, iPhone 3G and soon iPhone 3GS will be obsolete in your environment, as will be the iPad1 and iPad2 as soon as A9-based iPads hit the wild. There are nearly 2 billion people on this planet who really could use your now worthless piece of Apple gear.
 
swagi said:
<off topic rant>
Errrr...me. Because if you actually had a look at the American financial situation you guys over the pond are just really really glad for the Greek crisis. If American rating agencies couldn't bet against the Euro your good old Greenback would go the way of the dodo faster than you can look.

Actually cash hording in the world economic situation is by far the dumbest thing you can do. But that's completely off-topic.

But, hey, if LTD can bla his post-PC era BS in here and tell everybody they are clueless - maybe you should just get a reality check, rethink the outcome and btw your carbin footprint for always buying the latest and greatest Apple gear.

Come on - what Apple really managed to do, and this is really smart, is to rebuild their image. Instead of lasting Macs (I'm still rocking my 2003 Powerbook now) they now give you iToys that are OBSOLETE within 2 generations - translated two years.

Genius marketing, genius revenue stream generation and spoonfed to the flock with genius marketing BS-phrases like "post PC era".

</off topic rant>
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+1 but remember you cannot convince Apple fanboys. Some just don't realize half-baked mobile OS cannot replace desktop OS.
 
jmpnop said:
+1 but remember you cannot convince Apple fanboys. Some just don't realize half-baked mobile OS cannot replace desktop OS.
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iPads are already doing what the average consumer does with PCs.

A full-blown replacement is still far off.

However, a massive displacement is already underway.

Tune in on July 19th for more information.
 
*LTD* said:
iPads are already doing what the average consumer does with PCs.

A full-blown replacement is still far off.

However, a massive displacement is already underway.

Tune in on July 19th for more information.
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You think iOS will replace Mac OS/Windows/Linux/UNIX in future? Are you kidding?

And Apple's financial result has got nothing to do with iPad replacing PC. They may be the king of tablets (and even smartphones) but that doesn't make iPad Post-PC Era. Thats just marketing BS.
 
jmpnop said:
You think iOS will replace Mac OS/Windows/Linux/UNIX in future? Are you kidding?

And Apple's financial result has got nothing to do with iPad replacing PC. They may be the king of tablets (and even smartphones) but that doesn't make iPad Post-PC Era. Thats just marketing BS.
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He said 'displace' not 'replace'. Quite a difference.
 
A lot of people get hung up on the phrase 'post-PC', but you should remember that Apple didn't invent the idea. I'm pretty sure that CISCO and a whole bunch of other companies have been talking about this for a while now.

As for philanthrope - let's not mix up student discounts or helping start-ups with charity. They're not the same thing. Also, publicly traded companies have no right to give away money. That money doesn't belong to them. It belongs to their shareholders. So please don't confuse the hugely admirable work that Bill Gates is doing with his own personal fortune with the idea that PLCs should be giving something back.

This thread really has gone nuts. Mostly it's the fault of this Rodimus guy but really we shouldn't encourage him. Some people get very angry about wealth. The fact that Apple makes a lot of money is not a sign of some kind of evil. Good companies make money. High performing people make money. What those people choose to do with their money is up to them but they don't owe anyone anything for their success. Sure, charity is a good thing, but we can't judge people if they choose not to give. Fact is we have no idea how much Steve Jobs personally gives to charity. Maybe he gives nothing, maybe he gives a lot. Who knows?

Anyway, yes, this is a nice story.
 
RichardI said:
Interesting. A kindle has had that same ability since day 1 - and costs about 1/4 of the price.
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In the most basic sense, yes, you can zoom in on a Kindle. But it's not anywhere near as intuitive for a child to use - or an adult for that matter. Also the screen can't display colour which limits it's use for certain forms of data - diagrams, tables, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I own a Kindle and I read almost exclusively on it but I wouldn't say it was perfect for things like textbooks and academic data.

Actually, the area of education is the one place above all others that I can see tablets completely revolutionising. No more dry text books. Text, video, audio, interactive tables which change when you alter the data to demonstrate how differing data sets can be displayed. The ability to have trained actors read passages of plays to the students, right from inside the text book and right in your hand. Schools of the future are going to be awesome! I may have to have a kid just so I can do his homework!
 
jackc said:
Steve should buy her a Kindle, easier on the eyes.
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Two posts above yours, Jack. ;)

And I kinda think she'll enjoy her iPad much, much more. For obvious reasons.

I'm not even sure why some people are suggesting a Kindle in the first place. :confused:
 
maclaptop said:
If the story is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then she is one very nice young person.

Steve? Don't kid yourself, he knows a good marketing opportunity when he sees one. Sadly, the man worships money more than anything else.

Don't believe it? Then you don't know Steve.

Hey, it's his right, I'm not judging him but rather debunking the warm and fuzzy business behind this story.

If he was that kind of guy, it wouldn't take a story like that one to motivate him to act like a nice guy.

He's a hopeless narcissist, and that's just a fact. It's what makes things interesting. It's why Apple is the polarizing company it is.

Just walk out from behind the walled garden into the sunlight, read the mainstream press and notice how many others view him the same way. His ego, and dictatorial ways precede him.
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"you dont know steve"...ok and you dont either
 
From iPad helping a girl to Apple killing babies. lol. My Gosh... what's wrong with people nowadays?
 
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matrix07 said:
From iPad helping a girl to Apple killing babies. lol. My Gosh... what's wrong with people nowadays?
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People look for problems, and as a result, tend to find them. Can't say I'm any different though...
 
*LTD* said:
Who ****ing cares.

How does this affect my iPad? Does this get us a retina display any faster? What does any of this have to do with sales? Does anyone really care if the CEO of Apple is self-centred? I don't even know the guy.

The average consumer doesn't give a sweet damn what the CEO's personality is like. Maybe Steve's wife and kids or something or his best drinking buddy, but otherwise it's not a factor.

You keep posting nonsense that has no meaning in the real world.

Let's make sure the CEO is a lovely person, and THEN it's ok to get the gear!
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Your posts are pathetic. You constantly herald the virtues of Apple left and right, yet act nonchalant about Apple's total lack of philanthropic efforts. FAIL. It would take years of typing to convey how wrong and obtuse your opinions are. Consumers do care about corporate policy and attitude. I do, like so many others.

Your personal attacks against RodPrime are totally childish, stupid, and unimaginative. Do us all a favor and donate your computers (iOS devices included) to charity...you have nothing to contribute.
 
toddybody said:
Apple's total lack of philanthropic efforts.
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They are not, nor have they ever been, a factor. They are not a requirement, nor are they necessary. I'll applaud them when they do it, it's a nice bonus, but it's unreasonable to hold it against them when they don't. It's gravy. It has nothing to do with Apple's responsibility to shareholders or consumers. Nor is it a substantial factor in consumer purchasing decisions.

That's just the way it is.
 
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*LTD* said:
[Philanthropic efforts] are not, nor have they ever been, a factor. They are not a requirement, nor are they necessary. I'll applaud them when they do it, it's a nice bonus, but it's unreasonable to hold it against them when they don't. It's gravy. It has nothing to do with Apple's responsibility to shareholders or consumers. Nor is it a substantial factor in consumer purchasing decisions.
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I agree. Apple's great at technology but I'm not sure I'd like them making decisions on where money should go for the best of citizenry. I like the system where their profits result in lots of tax revenue and then our elected representatives (at all levels, from Cupertino on up) decide where to spend it.

Microsoft thinks it's smart business to be philanthropical, while Apple does not. It's just different business strategies as far as I'm concerned. Along the same lines, Microsoft thinks it's good business to spend tons of money on lobbying while Apple spends a fraction of what Microsoft does on lobbying activities. Every company is different and that's as it should be.

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“I’m a simpleton. I’ve always had the view that we pay taxes and the city should do those things. That’s why we pay taxes. Now, if we can get out of paying taxes, I’ll be glad to put up a WiFi network. I think we bring a lot more than free WiFi.” - Steve Jobs when asked if they'd follow Google's lead and put up free wifi for their headquarter city.
 
Where is my response Mr Jobs , I guess i had a complaint rather than a marketing oppurtunity
 
maclaptop said:
Steve? Don't kid yourself, he knows a good marketing opportunity when he sees one. Sadly, the man worships money more than anything else.
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And as for you, you are mother Teresa! You never once possed a material thing, volunteered / donated all your money to charity, never once cared about money, and live a humble existence full of virtue. Man, must be great to be you!
 
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