Steve Jobs Named 'Financial Times' Person of the Year

[emotion]

Despite all the fawning in this thread I think it might be that Pearson (owners of FT, penguin, a bunch of other publishers) want to be on his side.

Bodes well for iBookstore.

As it happens I also think he deserves recognition.

 

[*LTD*]

He's the Alexander of tech.

Look at what he's accomplished. Not just in terms of Apple's turnaround, but his contribution to the industry at large. He's been leading the way forward for years now. Apple develops and releases, everyone else copies, and all of a sudden you've got a burgeoning market for similar products.

aspects of his personality that can drive the company to achieve remarkable design standards but also result in him being viewed as a "stern taskmaster" obsessing over the every aspect of Apple's products.

Good. If only the competition was like this. Then maybe they'd enjoy the same kind of accolades, following, and brand loyalty that Apple does.

"Stern taskmaster" = Leader.

 

[jaw04005]

Steve jobs is a selfish prick

U know he fathered a bastard child he adamantly denied was his?

He has tons of money yet he is such a narcissist

Yawn.

"Brennan-Jobs graduated from Harvard University in 2000[1] and then moved to Europe, where she lived for seven years. She currently lives in New York.
She is a writer and her essays are available at www.lisabrennanjobs.net. She has been published in The Southwest Review, The Massachusetts Review, Harvard Crimson,[3] The Harvard Advocate, Spiked, Vogue and O, The Oprah Magazine."

Sounds like she's had a rough life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs

 

[pr5owner]

Yawn.

"Brennan-Jobs graduated from Harvard University in 2000[1] and then moved to Europe, where she lived for seven years. She currently lives in New York.
She is a writer and her essays are available at www.lisabrennanjobs.net. She has been published in The Southwest Review, The Massachusetts Review, Harvard Crimson,[3] The Harvard Advocate, Spiked, Vogue and O, The Oprah Magazine."

Sounds like she's had a rough life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs

umm thats not the point, your own parent disowned you, thats what we are talking about here.

 

[carlgo]

And exactly what impact has Julian Assange had on anything? Has he changed the way diplomacy is conducted? No. Has anyone been charged with a crime or forced to resign because of WikiLeaks? No. Has a ground swell of indignation risen up among the masses? No. Has anything at all been changed? Nope. Assange is a pitiful narcissist with delusions of grandeur. His organization has had no effect whatsoever on the world other than to endanger people's lives. He should be in jail, not on some magazine cover. He hates the U.S. He's a prick.

Well, to be fair he has changed the way diplomacy is conducted. Now diplomats all over the world will be far more careful and not put their thoughts down to where disillusioned people can copy and publish them.

Mostly he seems to be promoting himself, the strutting peacock that he is. There is nothing so far that seems particularly damning, more like TMZ gossip that can only complicate negotiations.

Oh, I forgot, diplomats have been spying on one another. Oh, the horror, who would have thought that...oh, and nobody likes Iran and all her neighbors want us to bomb them. That was actually sort of funny because Mr.Leisuresuit had to say that really everyone doesn't hate them...

 

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Steve jobs is a selfish prick

U know he fathered a bastard child he adamantly denied was his?

He has tons of money yet he is such a narcissist

So what. For all I care he can be a cross-dressing midget. He can run around naked and throw melons at cats. It's all about the products that roll out under his watch. Duh.

You and I are his customers. Not his wife/brother/child. Get real.

 

[pithy]

How quickly people forget the real brains behind the brand, the man with the original vision and engineering expertise.

The iconic Steve Wozniak.

If not for him, Apple would have been just another Silicon Valley Startup that Flared Up and Fizzled.

That said, I _do_ give Steve Jobs a lot of credit. He's the Master Pitchman and Brilliant Marketing Guru, that has resurrected what the prior management nearly killed off, after Jobs was forced out of the company the first time around.

It's right to credit Woz, but don't forget that Woz was just giving his designs away prior to Jobs' influence. It was Jobs who not only led the creation of the company but further was the visionary behind mac os (and os x and ios). IMHO people who think of him foremost as a marketing guru fail to truly understand the value propostion that macs offer. It's easy to sell something if there is true value underlying it. Jobs designs products that are attractive, relatively easy to use, reliable, have a premium brand name, and provide high quality customer support. Macs are not perfect, but it isn't hard to sell products that people want.

 

[Thex1138]

Gandalf The White

 

[vincenz]

I thought Jobs was named god already?

 

[blahblah100]

Greed. Not enough confidence at their own ability to create longer term value. And an inferiority complex about their lack of a big enough.... yacht.

You act like Steve Jobs drives around a 1993 Ford F150 with an 18 foot bayliner behind it... he has exclusive access to a private jet.

You ever think maybe his salary is for self-serving purposes and has something to do with capital gains taxes?

 

[AidenShaw]

Meanwhile, in other news

Meanwhile, Bill Gates is working to make the US and the world a better place - not just making shiny toys for rich folks on the Internet.

Bill Gates and Randi Weingarten
Can the billionaire philanthropist and the president of the American Federation of Teachers find common ground—and fix our nation’s education system?

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/12/20/gates-and-weingarten-fixing-our-nation-s-schools.html​

Ohhh - it's shiny.

 

[Trakker]

Meanwhile, Bill Gates is working to make the US and the world a better place - not just making shiny toys for rich folks on the Internet.

Bill Gates and Randi Weingarten
Can the billionaire philanthropist and the president of the American Federation of Teachers find common ground—and fix our nation’s education system?

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/12/20/gates-and-weingarten-fixing-our-nation-s-schools.html​

In the mean time Steve Jobs is producing a better future for ALL.

Bill Gates on the other hand is giving back most of the money he doesn't deserve after running a corrupt company.

 

[ECUpirate44]

I am as much of a fan of Apple and Steve as any other here, but I got to be honest and say he does not deserve this. I would rather have seen Assange be the Times person of the year. I think Assange had more of an international impact then Steve. This year anyway. On another note, man of the decade, probably Steve.

Your joking right? Assaange committed a crime?

 

[AidenShaw]

In the mean time Steve Jobs is producing a better future for ALL.

Well, for those who want and can afford his shiny expensive baubles for the Internet, anyway.

However, I think that excludes most of the people on our planet.

 

[trunten]

I thought Jobs was named god already?

He was, but it turned out Heaven held the trademark so sued his ass.

 

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Steve jobs is a selfish prick

U know he fathered a bastard child he adamantly denied was his?

He has tons of money yet he is such a narcissist

Yawn.

"Brennan-Jobs graduated from Harvard University in 2000[1] and then moved to Europe, where she lived for seven years. She currently lives in New York.
She is a writer and her essays are available at www.lisabrennanjobs.net. She has been published in The Southwest Review, The Massachusetts Review, Harvard Crimson,[3] The Harvard Advocate, Spiked, Vogue and O, The Oprah Magazine."

Sounds like she's had a rough life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs

From your same source

Jobs married Laurene Powell, on March 18, 1991. Presiding over the wedding was the Zen Buddhist monk Kobun Chino Otogowa.[71] The couple have a son, Reed Paul Jobs,[72] and two other children. Jobs also has a daughter, Lisa Brennan-Jobs (born 1978), from his relationship with Bay Area painter Chrisann Brennan.[73] She briefly raised their daughter on welfare when Jobs denied paternity, claiming that he was sterile; he later acknowledged paternity.[73]

Wow nice move steve. Welfare.

 

[japanime]

If Steve Jobs is the man of the year, decade, millennium, why don't more CEOs follow his example and get paid $1 per year?

At my company, we did just that. The CEO is paid $1 a year.

 

[macFanDave]

I guess the Time Magazine "Person of the Year" can just Zuck on that!

 

[lilcosco08]

Gandalf The White

and Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight and
Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie and
Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie.
Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo Pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger.
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan.

 

[Thunderbird]

And exactly what impact has Julian Assange had on anything?

Quite a lot actually. Major news organizations write about both him and wikileaks, for reasons that should be obvious. He (and wikileaks volunteers) have embarrased many governments, religious organizations and corporations around the world with incriminating documents. These organizations now spend a lot of time and energy denying the exposed information, or trying to shut wikileaks down. This has an impact on he way these organizations operate.

Has he changed the way diplomacy is conducted?

Too early to tell, since the diplomatic leaks are still fresh.

Has anyone been charged with a crime or forced to resign because of WikiLeaks?

When those in power are exposed for crimes, they only face the tribunal of other powerful friends. Pretty difficult to prosecute an entire corrupt system. But here's an example that comes close. Wikileaks changed the outcome of the 2007 general election in Kenya, after exposing the corruption of several leading politicians and documenting the deaths and disappearance of hundreds of citizens at the hands of police. Most of the politicians involved were defeated at the polls in the wake of the leaks.

Has a ground swell of indignation risen up among the masses?

Yes, wikileaks was part of a wave of information that came out about the conditions at Guantanamo Bay. Wikileaks disclosed the Interrogation Manual used at Gitmo that proved torture was being used and that the military was lying about it. This created a backlash against the concentration camp which lead to Obama vowing to close it down.

Also, following the collapse of Iceland's banking system, wikileaks posted documents which revealed lying, cronyism and secrecy that so enraged the Icelandic public that the government was forced to implement new Freedom of Information laws to help prevent Banks and other financial institutions from operating under such covert conditions in the future.

Has anything at all been changed?

Sure. In Britain, posted documents by wikileaks uncovered fraud within the National Student Survey so widespread and egregious, that the government had to create more strict guidelines on how universities administered the survey.

Assange is a pitiful narcissist with delusions of grandeur. His organization has had no effect whatsoever on the world other than to endanger people's lives. He should be in jail, not on some magazine cover. He hates the U.S. He's a prick.

Assange probably has no such delusions, since he is being persecuted and hounded to the ends of the Earth. Your slur against him, along with your fundamental ignorance of the positive effects of wikileaks, indicates an ideological blindness consistent with political extremism. Neither is Assange "endangering" any lives, an old strawman argument that has become nothing more than a sick joke, given the countless lives endangered and snuffed out by governments around the world on a daily basis. And I hate to break it to you, but most people in the world "hate the US" for lots of good reasons. You might want to brush up on US foreign policy.

To wish for the incarceration of whistleblowers is typical of Orwellians. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable living in North Korea, where this kind of information is almost impossible to get, at least more difficult than the 5 minutes it took me to find it. That way, you'd be spared the revelations about corruption by those in power and you'd be free to continue to live in blissful ignorance.

 

[Undecided]

How quickly people forget the real brains behind the brand, the man with the original vision and engineering expertise.

The iconic Steve Wozniak.

If not for him, Apple would have been just another Silicon Valley Startup that Flared Up and Fizzled.

That said, I _do_ give Steve Jobs a lot of credit. He's the Master Pitchman and Brilliant Marketing Guru, that has resurrected what the prior management nearly killed off, after Jobs was forced out of the company the first time around.

The flip of it, is that he's also the really great guy (when he was younger, before he let the money go to his head) that morphed into the sometimes menacing, always dictatorial, supreme control freak that the zealots bow down to today.

Nonetheless as the posts on this forum validate, it's the almighty dollar that impresses the cult like clan that await his every word, his every move as though their life depended on it. And hey! If that works for them, then all's well in AppleLand.

Celebrate the great consumer electronics company Apple has become, we needed a replacement for Sony anyway...

Hang on now....Jobs is still an engineer in his own right. Not the brilliant engineer that Woz is but he can hold his own. And Woz isn't the salesman that Jobs is.

The truth is, neither one would have been able to create Apple without the other - or someone like the other person. Certainly Jobs has done well for Apple without Woz, which was only possible with the backing of brilliant engineers, and designers.

 

[Slix]

Awesome. Steve is my idol.

 

[Glideslope]

The Assimilation Continues........

 

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From your same source

Jobs married Laurene Powell, on March 18, 1991. Presiding over the wedding was the Zen Buddhist monk Kobun Chino Otogowa.[71] The couple have a son, Reed Paul Jobs,[72] and two other children. Jobs also has a daughter, Lisa Brennan-Jobs (born 1978), from his relationship with Bay Area painter Chrisann Brennan.[73] She briefly raised their daughter on welfare when Jobs denied paternity, claiming that he was sterile; he later acknowledged paternity.[73]

Wow nice move steve. Welfare.

If I didn't think it was mine, I wouldn't pay either. Otherwise, if you pay and it turns out not yours, you risk a court deciding that because you treated it as yours, they will make you pay child support anyway. For the next 18 years. Welcome to the new rules.

Of course, I'm assuming that he didn't really know. If he knew it was his, then yeah that's lame.

 

[ghostface147]

Contests Steve.