You missed the point, as usual. I didn't bring up Bill Gates, btw, but was responding to another clueless fanboi who did.
I completely agree with Mr. Jobs winning the award.
I believe he is America's most successful plutocrat.
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Steve Jobs Named World's Best-Performing CEO by Harvard Business Review
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You missed the point, as usual. I didn't bring up Bill Gates, btw, but was responding to another clueless fanboi who did.
I completely agree with Mr. Jobs winning the award.
I believe he is America's most successful plutocrat.
Ummm.....
Jan 1995 - December 2009 (effectively Jan 2010) is 15 years.
This is the Best CEO if the past 15 years.
Awkay... mhm.. So anyone who didn't code software or soldered a computer together is not really a creator and therefore unable to innovate? According to this logic, not even a software architect is a creator. Quite an exclusive club of creators you're creating there...
Well, maybe you should brush up your history knowledge a little. BG's programming abilities were very limited, that's why he didn't really do much of it (most famously, his BASIC interpreter). His anecdotal programming achievements can be neglected if you're looking at the size that MS grew into.
It's like saying, Hewlett & Packard built their first computer in a garage, and that's why their company was successful for the next 30 years. As if ANYTHING these guys have done in the following years wasn't like 1000 orders of magnitude more relevant...
True.
OS/2 and BeOS were far superior to Windows.
Microsoft effectively killed them off, in addition to obliterating the more refined WordPerfect Office, Lotus SmartSuite, and Netscape.
The $500 Million Shrine of Shame - a reprehensible and deplorable way of allocating (channeling) charitable foundation funds.
Most of Steve Jobs wealth comes from other sources, not Apple. He gets paid peanuts.
True, Gates KNEW computing......YESTERDAY....It certainly doesn't show today. He never even demos his own stuff. But at every Macworld that Job's has attended or any Apple event, Jobs at least demos his own stuff, he knows how to operate it. Can't say that about Gates. How many salesman do you know of that know how to operate the stuff they are selling?
One of several memorable occasions in which he accompanies a live demo of W98 .
"Moving right along...."
You missed the story about the back dated options, didn't you?
You mean stock? Oh wow, so much...
Apple didn't create the personal computer industry. Neither the Apple II nor the Mac were mass affordable computers, compared to the others that came along at the same time.
He didn't know how to build or program them, no.
Jobs is one of those guys who knows how to find people who know how to do stuff.
Is there a point to these tired old third grade jokes?
Okay that's better. I agree. Not to mention CP/M and MP/M. Kildall was amazing in comparison to Gates.
Ha. True, but they didn't call it that. The article is titled:
The Best-Performing CEOs in the World
Please read posts in context. It was a response to someone claiming that Gates never created anything, while Jobs did.
I lived the history and spent time in discussions with some of these guys. Gates was pretty infamous for reading over technical specs for new programming and grilling managers on their knowledge.
Friends, I fought Microsoft tooth and nail for many, many years. I even helped create a computer company that was trying to be a competitor, and lost a ton of money in the attempt. That's a lot more effort than most of the anti-MS types here ever went to
1. I love Apple products.
2. I admire Steve Jobs as a creative force in personal electronics.
3. Anyone who thinks Bill Gates was nothing more than a copycat in this business needs to get their nose out of pro-Apple propaganda literature and widen their reading list a bit.
Yes, I remember those Next machines at school, University of Illinois, because Stephen Wolfram, the numerical analysis professor/researcher, had
us doing assignments with his Mathematica application. I chose to use the Next machines (i.e. grey scale or color) because they had a great UI, huge screens, and they were fast. Now, if Jobs was allowed to be creative and realize his vision, then it would have been very possible to see Mac OS X in early 1990s instead of early 2000s. The Next company Jobs founded was successful because it allowed him to be creative and realize his vision without management, board, and anyone else getting in the way.
Speaking of Mac OS X, I have version 10.0 and 10.1 in boxes about 2 meters from me. Also, I have the original manuals for the OS as well as the Objective-C programming language. It's great looking back at personal computer history. Now, if you want to go a little further back into history, Xerox Parc, the inventors of the GUI, ethernet, mouse pointer, laser printer, Smalltalk, and many other things we use today, you can see how history repeats itself because the management at Xerox Parc thought all this stuff didn't have a business future. I guess they couldn't take 43 of the 50 greatest minds (i.e. their employees) seriously.
To what joke are you referring?
Being nominated the World's Sweatiest CEO is by no means a consolation prize - it is, in many respects, a major and highly unique achievement.
No doubt, Gary Kildall is the leading exponent for Gates's success - who got royally screwed, especially by both Paterson, who effectively cloned CP/M to create MS-DOS, and IBM, who offered him a losing proposal to offset a potential lawsuit.
Hats off to Gary Kildall.
I agree. But Microsoft lately has been such a bunch of copycats I can't stand it.
It is perhaps an understatement to say that the return of Steve Jobs to Apple, to be one of the most important moves in corporate history.
Congrats Mr. Jobs!
Congrats Mr. Jobs!
Amen! get on the torrentz and find the nerds documentary (no, not the crappy comedy)
