... find the nerds documentary (no, not the crappy comedy)
Which one? A real title would be nice.
... find the nerds documentary (no, not the crappy comedy)
Its all in the genes.
1. There had to be a personal computer industry to begin with. Thank Apple.
2. Giving to good causes is not innovative, but BG did create his own foundation, yes.
3. 10s of millions of IT jobs over the last 30 years. Yes, an entire industry has grown up around fixing Winblows. Not very innovative, but the jobs were created, no doubt about that.
Which one? A real title would be nice.
CEO's are not here to make friends and win popularity awards.
They're sole purpose is to grow the company and increase share value for shareholders.
Based on that, Apple doesn't even come close.
Lets see why,
Apple market Cap is $100 Billion less than MSFT ( win for Bill)
Microsoft Gross Margins are around 44% higher than Apples ( win for Bill)
Revenue for Apple is $20 Billion less than MSFT (win for Bill)
Microsoft has double the levered free cash flow of apple $14.57 Billion compared to apples $6.8 Billion.
Apple is a distance second, at best. (but obviously this topic isn't about who runs their company better, it's a popularity award)
From a quality vs quantity point of view, in addition to how gains were garnered via abuse of monopolistic position, vendor lock-in, and sleazy OEM deals, MS seems to have been justifiably disqualified from the Hall of Fame.
Besides, the exponential growth of Apple, since Steve Jobs took the helm, has been far greater, during the past decade, than the flat-line growth of Microsoft.
I agree. But Microsoft lately has been such a bunch of copycats I can't stand it.
Lately???
I'd love to hear some examples of actual Microsoft innovation in their entire history.
Windows = Mac knockoff
Zune = iPod knockoff
Xbox = give us a slice of that PlayStation pie please! (And the 360 hardware design is a Dell Optiplex in white.)
Bing = Google
PowerPoint = acquisition
Soapbox (RIP) = YouTube
MyPhone = MobileMe
Project Natal = give us a slice of that Nintendo motion gaming please! Johnny Chung Lee originally demoed some cool stuff using Wii remotes. Microsoft quickly snatched him up and he is now on the Natal team.
DOS = acquisition
Microsoft Store = Apple Store
Songsmith = LOL!
The list goes on and on.
I know where they innovated, they copied KDE and made people think they copied mac OSX.
That has to use some creativity... right???
Do you ever use normal words?
From a quality vs quantity point of view, in addition to how gains were garnered via abuse of monopolistic position, vendor lock-in, and sleazy OEM deals, MS seems to have been justifiably disqualified from the Hall of Fame.
Besides, the exponential growth of Apple, since Steve Jobs took the helm, has been far greater, during the past decade, than the flat-line growth of Microsoft.
I'm stating the fact that in business, the goal is maximize revenue/profits, and reduce costs.
In a pure Capitalist economy. Not in a Hybrid or Socialist.
it's sad how people with no formal education on finance and economics try to make sense of this stuff..
keep at it.
One cannot conclude the outcome of any of the actions you describe. Factors could have been right when the initial iMac was released, USB inception, manufacturing process (clear or translucent plastic) that lead to following products. Saying ifback in the days invested in OS X holds no truth as even if they did it was the various other factors that led to its success. Lets not forget PPC and migration to intel. I hear that Steve Jobs has calmed down quite a bit from his prime days at
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Who knows if Steve Jobs stayed atand still produced Mac OS X then it could have been a flop, just saying anything is possible. Do not make it sound that the factors now would have favoured factors a decade or so ago.
I'm not comparing their products or their methods of business
I'm stating the fact that in business, the goal is maximize revenue/profits, and reduce costs.
Based on those factors, Apple would lose, but as I said before, this is a popularity contest, and not about which is the more profitable company.
Aside from his infringing patents and abusing monopolistic power to crush innovation skills, BG was an amazing license pedaler. Statistically there must be 10 Windows licenses from me (e.g., from standard issue work machines & pre-built PCs I've bought & wiped the HDD with Linux) but I don't even use Windows.CEO's are not here to make friends and win popularity awards.
They're sole purpose is to grow the company and increase share value for shareholders.
Based on that, Apple doesn't even come close.
Lets see why,
Apple market Cap is $100 Billion less than MSFT ( win for Bill)
Microsoft Gross Margins are around 44% higher than Apples ( win for Bill)
Revenue for Apple is $20 Billion less than MSFT (win for Bill)
Microsoft has double the levered free cash flow of apple $14.57 Billion compared to apples $6.8 Billion.
Apple is a distance second, at best. (but obviously this topic isn't about who runs their company better, it's a popularity award)
Practically all new PCs come with a crippled version of Windows license, then if you actually use Windows you probably go buy a less crippled edition (2 licenses not including work).
Somehow factors are always "right" when Apple popularized a number of products. Examples, things that people take for granted now:
- Personal computer
- ...
- Phone that don't need 100 page manuals