Steve Jobs Named World's Best-Performing CEO by Harvard Business Review

[DMann]

And of course, Mr. "Quote Out of Context" DMann, you don't point out that was in context:

So, a play on "month" vs. "year" -- which you repeatedly fail to include in your out-of-context quote.

I also like the inconsistency (or should I use your favorite word "hypocrisy") of finding these posts, yet yesterday you accused me of not mentioning my phone model in spite of a clear record that I have.

How is this out of context?

You accused me of stooping to Aiden's level, which is clearly not the case.

Your quotes are genuine, and were stated by you. If the dates and context are important, one can easily click upon the adjacent arrow links for reference.

Your "out of context" quotes, however, were backdredged in an attempt to claim that they were relevant to the current discussion, which they were not.

Speaking of inconsistency, hypocrisy, and your desperate assertion of having "a clear record," yours, ironically, remains fully loaded.

Priceless, on several accounts.

 

[LagunaSol]

Speaking for the masses, are we?

Microsoft always does.

The masses will upgrade to Windows 7, they'll stay on Windows 7 until Windows 8, and they'll like it by damn. - Microsoft

 

[AidenShaw]

How is this out of context?

If you can't see that my post was a play-on-words on the previous post -- and that by not including the previous post you do in fact make it "out of context".... Well, if you can't see that, I don't know where to start.

Enough of yet another off-topic "DMann ad hominem harassments of Aiden Shaw" - have your usual last word, since that's so important to you. I won't bore the rest of the readers by continuing the sub-thread.

 

[DMann]

Microsoft always does.

The masses will upgrade to Windows 7, they'll stay on Windows 7 until Windows 8, and they'll like it by damn. - Microsoft

Quoted by the delusional, yet indelibly optimistic Ballmer, himself. (unsurmountable XP majority be damned!)

 

[DMann]

If you can't see that my post was a play-on-words on the previous post -- and that by not including the previous post you do in fact make it "out of context".... Well, if you can't see that, I don't know where to start.

You seem unwilling to admit that you have, on several occasions, exploited opportunities, in a self-glorifying manner, to state specifics about your salary, works of art, gallery patronage, and even blatantly stating that you "pay" to subscribe to this site:

Then it's a good thing that I pay to read MacRumours - so that my flash blocker doesn't put them out of business.

The frequent occurrence of such "blowing of one's horn," on a public forum, no less, reveals an apparent need to assert one's relevance here, as distasteful as this behavior is.

As for not knowing where to start, perhaps the toning down of your flagrant innuendoes of braggartry, which are embedded into each of the above referenced quotes, would be worthy of your consideration.

 

[DMann]

haha.. anyone with half a brain cell can tell the difference..

Apparently not - had it not been for the 'Great Global Recession,' he'd still be in business today.

 

[macrem]

Microsoft always does.

The masses will upgrade to Windows 7, they'll stay on Windows 7 until Windows 8, and they'll like it by damn. - Microsoft

Unless they are staying on XP until Windows X

Windows users at my company are still using XP & there is no foreseeable plan to upgrade to 7. Isn't that fairly standard?

 

[AidenShaw]

Unless they are staying on XP until Windows X

Windows users at my company are still using XP & there is no foreseeable plan to upgrade to 7. Isn't that fairly standard?

It's Microsoft's fault - if they'd drop support for older systems quickly people would migrate.

Seriously, though, XP is old, and XP-era hardware is ancient - so there is a reason for Windows 7 migration. Some will stick with XP until there's no choice (the "don't fix what isn't broken" rule), but recent surveys have shown that many companies are making Windows 7 plans.

Reports Find IT Poised to Adopt Windows 7 Soon
New surveys show pent up demand for Windows' latest incarnation.

October 20, 2009
By Stuart J. Johnston


Perhaps the belief on the part of Michael Dell and other PC hardware vendors that there is pent-up demand for new PCs isn't just them trying to sell their wares. Two new analysts' reports seem to back up their statements.

According to a worldwide survey by Information Technology Intelligence Corp. (ITIC) and Sunbelt Software of 1,500 IT decision makers released Monday, 49 percent said they will migrate to Windows 7 within a year of Thursday's formal launch.

An additional 11 percent said they will wait for the first service pack before adopting Windows 7. However, only 40 percent say they have no current plans to migrate to the new system, according to ITIC Principal Analyst Laura DiDio, who authored the study.
...

Meanwhile, a second survey by Forrester of 653 PC decision-makers at North American and European enterprises and SMBs found that 66 percent either are planning or expecting to move to Windows 7.
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"Windows 7 will become the new standard for most commercial PCs within 12 months," said the report, co-authored by analyst Benjamin Gray.
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As far as corporate deployment goes, respondents to the Forrester study said that 38 percent will only bring Windows 7 in-house via new PC purchases, while another 28 percent will update most or all PCs capable of running Windows 7.

All in all, it looks like a number of factors are combining to make the outlook pretty good for Windows 7.

Last Friday, for instance, IT solution provider Softchoice released a survey it said shows that some 88 percent of the 450,000 corporate PCs it analyzed between November 2008 and August 2009 are capable of running Windows 7. That should grease the wheels for a smoother migration.

Also last week, a report from Jefferies & Company, predicted that corporate adoption of Windows 7 is likely to begin in earnest sooner rather than later.
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"I think they're [Microsoft] going to do really well here … the sense is that they got it right this time," DiDio told InternetNews.com.

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3844501

While 12 months may seem to be a long time, that's actually quite rapid for a corporate upgrade cycle.

 

[DMann]

Unless they are staying on XP until Windows X

Windows users at my company are still using XP & there is no foreseeable plan to upgrade to 7. Isn't that fairly standard?

True, I know of several companies and law firms in Manhattan which will be passing on W7, and riding out XP.

The common consensus - there are no compelling reasons to upgrade.

Despite Ballmer's plea last February: Ballmer tells companies to upgrade from XP, the large majority of companies will likely be holding out as long as possible, despite their alleged plans to upgrade within a year.

It seems impractical to replace good enough with good enough, especially so for companies which are planning on using their existing hardware.

 

[ildondeigiocchi]

Congratulations Steve. You deserve it for all the hard work you've put into Apple which allowed it to become so successful! I love

 

[AidenShaw]

True, I know of several companies and law firms in Manhattan which will be passing on W7, and riding out XP.

...the large majority of companies will likely be holding out as long as possible, despite their alleged plans to upgrade within a year.

So - several respected IT opinion and analysis companies interview thousands of leaders of corporate IT, and the consensus is that the majority are planning their Windows 7 migrations.

On the other hand, someone who knows of "several companies and law firms in Manhattan" concludes that "large majority of companies will likely be holding out as long as possible".

Wow.

 

[LagunaSol]

So - several respected IT opinion and analysis companies interview thousands of leaders of corporate IT, and the consensus is that the majority are planning their Windows 7 migrations.

I liked your original wording better: "trend companies." It matched the silliness of "interview thousands of leaders of corporate IT."

And of course corporate IT will follow the Windows chute to corral number 7. It's what sheep do.

Baaaaaa.

 

[AidenShaw]

And of course corporate IT will follow the Windows chute to corral number 7. It's what sheep do.

Baaaaaa.

So you agree with the experts and not the "New York anecdote". (Holds head, don't let it explode.)

By the way, most of those "corporate sheep" refused to go to corral number 6 - which destroys your barb.

I liked your original wording better: "trend companies." It matched the silliness of "interview thousands of leaders of corporate IT."

Silliness?

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3844501

• According to a worldwide survey by Information Technology Intelligence Corp. (ITIC) and Sunbelt Software of 1,500 IT decision makers...
  
• Meanwhile, a second survey by Forrester of 653 PC decision-makers at North American and European enterprises and SMBs...

They literally surveyed thousands - what's silly?

 

[LagunaSol]

By the way, most of those "corporate sheep" refused to go to corral number 6 - which destroys your barb.

Not even sheep were dumb enough to go to corral number 6. Ouch.

Oh, and speaking of corral number 6, I remember seeing a lot of positive upgrade predictions regarding Vista when it was first released. Double ouch.

They literally surveyed thousands - what's silly?

Yes, they "literally" sent thousands of IT drones email surveys with checkboxes. And we all know how much thought goes into those.

"Will you be upgrading to Windows 7?"

"Uh. I dunno. Sure. Whatever. I don't have time for this, a virus is ravaging our intranet right now and I have a meeting with the CIO in a half hour to explain to him why SharePoint sucks so bad." *clicks Submit Survey button*

 

[AidenShaw]

...I remember seeing a lot of positive upgrade predictions regarding Vista when it was first released..

Like these?:

http://news.cnet.com/British-agency-tells-schools-to-avoid-Vista/2100-1016_3-6149401.html

The British Educational Communications and Technology Agency said Wednesday that it "strongly recommends" schools do not deploy Microsoft's latest operating system [Vista] within the next 12 months.​

http://www.rightcopywriter.com/blog/news/intel-wont-include-windows-vista.html

Intel, the world’s largest maker of processors that support Microsoft Windows, will not be installing the Windows Vista operating system internally for its 80,000 workers, as per a published report recently.​

 

[LagunaSol]

Like these?:

*Bleat.*

Of course you're well aware that most of the negative press for Vista came well after its release.

Enjoy 7. *Baaaaa.*

 

[twoodcc]

wow. i didn't realize that Jobs made that big of a turn around. nice work

 

[DMann]

Wow.

You hit the nail right on the head:

Check it out: "More Entertaining!"


6 in 10 companies to skip Windows 7

So much has changed in the past six months - - not:

Survey: XP Users Aren’t Upgrading to Windows 7

XP Marketshare remains the vast majority at ~64%.

So - several respected IT opinion and analysis companies interview thousands of leaders of corporate IT, and the consensus is that the majority are planning their Windows 7 migrations.

ROFLMAO

Not even sheep were dumb enough to go to corral number 6. Ouch.

Oh, and speaking of corral number 6, I remember seeing a lot of positive upgrade predictions regarding Vista when it was first released. Double ouch.

Yes, they "literally" sent thousands of IT drones email surveys with checkboxes. And we all know how much thought goes into those.

"Will you be upgrading to Windows 7?"

"Uh. I dunno. Sure. Whatever. I don't have time for this, a virus is ravaging our intranet right now and I have a meeting with the CIO in a half hour to explain to him why SharePoint sucks so bad." *clicks Submit Survey button*

"The Survey Says, ..........................."


Gullibility overflows his oversized litter box.

*Bleat.*

Of course you're well aware that most of the negative press for Vista came well after its release.

Mojave!

Reality, be damned.

Enjoy 7. *Baaaaa.*

We'll pass, and say we didn't.

 

[AidenShaw]

You have an uncanny ability to ignore one question, and take off in a different direction -- thereby trying to appear to win an argument when in fact you've sidestepped the argument or have simply backpedaled.

6 in 10 companies to skip Windows 7

So much has changed in the past six months - - not:

The story I linked to (http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3844501) actually references the same ScriptLogic report that your Yahoo! article references. My newer link says:

That [the new study's finding that 60% have Win7 plans] stands in contrast to July, when a survey lofted by systems lifecycle management vendor ScriptLogic found that nearly 60 percent of IT shops had no plans to deploy Windows 7 at all.

How can you quote six month old stories, and claim that they prove that nothing has changed today?

In particular, six months ago most companies were still waiting for the final Win7 kits - it was an unknown quantity. Today, they've had several months of experience, have tested their applications on Win7, and have run pilot projects to see how hard the rollout will be. Most of these are apparently doing well:

"Meanwhile, ITIC's DiDio reported that "an overwhelming 80 percent majority of early adopters and beta users rated their Windows 7 experience "Excellent" or "Very Good." By comparison, only two percent said that Windows 7's quality was either "Poor" or "Unsatisfactory," she added."​

So, it's not at all surprising that there is a big change in plans in six months. They've had a chance to test their applications, they've been able to test the automated upgrade tools (corporations will upgrade systems by sending a WOL packet in the middle of the night, and from the domain management tools upgrade remotely over the net - the user logs in the next day to an upgraded system).

Survey: XP Users Aren’t Upgrading to Windows 7

What's the relevance of this quote about "users"? The topic is whether businesses are planning upgrades.

Again you try to change the topic by posting unrelated items.

XP Marketshare remains the vast majority at ~64%.

And the relevance of this to whether businesses are planning to upgrade to Windows 7 is what? If businesses are *planning*, obviously it won't be reflected in marketshare already. Most predictions are that most end users won't upgrade XP, they'll get Windows 7 when they upgrade their systems. Obviously, that won't happen overnight (just like less than a third of Apple users have upgraded to 10.6).

By the way, the December marketshare stats are out - Windows 7 share at 5.71% for the month, and daily stats show it starting the new year at 8.01%. Mac and Windows share down slightly. Mobile browsing up sharply, especially on Android. (Mobile Browsing Explodes in December)

 

[LagunaSol]

By the way, the December marketshare stats are out - Windows 7 share at 5.71% for the month, and daily stats show it starting the new year at 8.01%. Mac and Windows share down slightly. Mobile browsing up sharply, especially on Android. (Mobile Browsing Explodes in December)

Fortunately for humanity, and despite your wildest fantasies, fervent prayers and tireless astroturfing, the computing world will never march 100% lockstep with Microsoft and the Windows hegemony. Some of us like to think for ourselves, and many of us who do choose alternatives to the mediocrity of the status quo. Windows market share could be 99.9%, yet here you would still be, desperately trying to convert the remaining .1%. It's sad, really.

Your mindless devotion to Lord Ballmer and the Microsoft Way is not and will never be shared by all, no matter what numbers the "trend companies" throw out. Sorry. The Redmond hive is slowly losing its control over the populace, and it's making you (and them) nervous.

Sadly many of us are still locked into Microsoft's junk during the day (thank you enterprise IT drones), but at home we have a choice. And many of us choose anything but Microsoft.

Analyze that.

 

[AidenShaw]

Analyze that.

I'm trying to analyze how you can connect my answer to a simple question (about whether most companies are staying with XP) with world domination and hegemony.

Let alone bringing animal husbandry into the discussion....

At least it hasn't descended into 20 posts discussing whether there should be a comma or a semicolon in some sentence.

 

[DMann]

You have an uncanny ability to ignore one question, and take off in a different direction -- thereby trying to appear to win an argument when in fact you've sidestepped the argument or have simply backpedaled.

You have the audacity and perseverance of an adolescent who fervently attempts to use terminology for the sake of using it - "simply backpedaled?"

Coming from you, of all people, who have earned notoriety around here for backpedalling, it's endearing to watch you try to "toss off" the term, as frequently as you do, since it's quite evident that you have no clue as to what it means.

"Meanwhile, ITIC's DiDio reported that "an overwhelming 80 percent majority of early adopters and beta users rated their Windows 7 experience "Excellent" or "Very Good." By comparison, only two percent said that Windows 7's quality was either "Poor" or "Unsatisfactory," she added."​

Yep, same BS we all heard about Vista. How's that working out?

As LagunaSol summarized so well: Lip service, lip service, and more lip service.

Bear in mind, virtually any half-assed improvements would rate "Excellent" or "Very Good" by comparison to Vista, the lowly sector which actually has an incentive for W7 conversion.

What's the relevance of this quote about "users"? The topic is whether businesses are planning upgrades.

Again you try to change the topic by posting unrelated items.

Since when is the term 'users' exclusive of 'businesses?' Unless, by your logic, businesses have no plans on 'using' the OS.

Most predictions are that most end users won't upgrade XP, they'll get Windows 7 when they upgrade their systems. Obviously, that won't happen overnight.

Which is precisely what I stated from the outset:

It seems impractical to replace good enough with good enough, especially so for companies which are planning on using their existing hardware.

Obviously, this won't happen overnight, since frugal companies looking to reduce costs will hold out as long as possible.

Who's been taking statements into different directions here?

Fortunately for humanity, and despite your wildest fantasies, fervent prayers and tireless astroturfing, the computing world will never march 100% lockstep with Microsoft and the Windows hegemony. Some of us like to think for ourselves, and many of us who do choose alternatives to the mediocrity of the status quo. Windows market share could be 99.9%, yet here you would still be, desperately trying to convert the remaining .1%. It's sad, really.

Pitifully pathetic comes to mind.

His incessant need to shill, astroturf, and proselytize is nothing short of astounding.

Your mindless devotion to Lord Ballmer and the Microsoft Way is not and will never be shared by all, no matter what numbers the "trend companies" throw out. Sorry. The Redmond hive is slowly losing its control over the populace, and it's making you (and them) nervous.

Microsoft: Running scared

Sadly many of us are still locked into Microsoft's junk during the day (thank you enterprise IT drones), but at home we have a choice. And many of us choose anything but Microsoft.

Analyze that.

Someone's gotta keep those IT jobs in the loop - go MS!

At least it hasn't descended into 20 posts discussing whether there should be a comma or a semicolon in some sentence.

Smugly states the hypocrite, he, who ranted on and on about a set of quotation marks regarding Jim Allchin.

Utterly priceless.

 

[megadon]

You have the audacity and perseverance of an adolescent who fervently attempts to use terminology for the sake of using it - "simply backpedaled?"

Coming from you, of all people, who have earned notoriety around here for backpedalling, it's endearing to watch you try to "toss off" the term, as frequently as you do, since it's quite evident that you have no clue as to what it means.



Yep, same BS we all heard about Vista. How's that working out?

As LagunaSol summarized so well: Lip service, lip service, and more lip service.

Bear in mind, virtually any half-assed improvements would rate "Excellent" or "Very Good" by comparison to Vista, the lowly sector which actually has an incentive for W7 conversion.



Since when is the term 'users' exclusive of 'businesses?' Unless, by your logic, businesses have no plans on 'using' the OS.



Which is precisely what I stated from the outset:



Obviously, this won't happen overnight, since frugal companies looking to reduce costs will hold out as long as possible.

Who's been taking statements into different directions here?



Pitifully pathetic comes to mind.

His incessant need to shill, astroturf, and proselytize is nothing short of astounding.

Microsoft: Running scared



Someone's gotta keep those IT jobs in the loop - go MS!



Smugly states the hypocrite, he, who ranted on and on about a set of quotation marks regarding Jim Allchin.

Utterly priceless.

what is it so popular for apple kids to sit around and diss microsoft..

corporate inferiority complex?

 

[AidenShaw]

Since when is the term 'users' exclusive of 'businesses?' Unless, by your logic, businesses have no plans on 'using' the OS.

Corporate users typically have no say in the decisions about what software to run. They seldom have admin privs, they often can't install any software, and sometimes aren't allowed to use DVD drives or USB drives (or Ipods or...). Their systems are part of the domain - remotely administered, remotely upgraded. (One company I work with has a domain named the "Collective". )

Polling corporate business users about whether they plan to upgrade isn't meaningful - they aren't allowed to make the decision. Polling IT decision makers, like the surveys I cited, is much more appropriate.

So yes, "users" is exclusive of "businesses" for the topic we're discussing - corporate migration from XP/Vista to Windows 7.

 

[DMann]

what is it so popular for apple kids to sit around and diss microsoft..

corporate inferiority complex?

Actually, it was Corporate Superiority Envy which convinced our group to drop Windows back in 2005, ending hundreds of hours of downtime, IT emergency maintenance, driver hell, networking nightmares, and virus pandemonium, leading to dramatic improvements of productivity, efficiency, and performance, let alone peace of mind.

Diss Microsoft?

If we were to bill them for the lost income due to their shoddy crapware, we'd be looking at six figures, easily. If they were to compensate us in lieu of a NDA, perhaps I'd comply, but not until then.