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My wife's reaction was "I wonder what his kids think about that?"

I tried to explain the heart of a work-a-holic to her, but she just looked at me threateningly...

Or the fact that for the longest time he denied his first daughter was even his.

This maybe the most important thing to him but technology wise I think OS 10.7 will be one of the most important things to happen to Apple.
 
I get shivers thinking about this product.

Not only because I think it will be great and make my life more enjoyable/productive.

However, for the fact being, I think this will be the last big thing from Apple/Steve for a very long time. There just isn't somewhere else to create a completely new product / idea after this.

There wil be cool new Macs, much improved iPhones, etc.

However, this may be the last time we really see a whole new idea, a new way of doing things, from Apple, particularly Steve.

Thank God you don't work at Apple.
 
The printed word in terms of the news / entertainment media has been already dead for years. Fictional printed books with continue to be relevant for decades, since these are hung onto by techno-phobes like they were spiritual. The tablet won't initialize these trends - they have ALREADY been triiggered and would play out there course with or without it. Although I'm sure that Apple will try to take credit for it.

Tony

"Printed books" include fiction and non-fiction. Unless you meant something else by "fictional."

Let's say... it started with the MAC.

Deal. ;)
 
We need to look at the greater scale of history.

The iPod killed the CD, Tape and Vinyl - all mediums younger than 150 years old.

The Mac killed the standard office workflow of redundant papers, filing cabinets, snail mail and rolodexes. Again, a legacy not older than the industrial revolution.

But if the iTablet/ iPad kills the printed word, then this is momentous.

The printed word liberated the world from under-education. It brought the average man in grasp of the written word of their Gods, spawning the reformation in Europe, and hence the colonizing of the United States. The printed word allowed for higher learning and literature to enter the homes of the poor, allowing intellectual equality among the classes. This is a legacy as old as the mid 15th century, and the printing press is perhaps the most important invention to date.

Will the iTablet/ iPad be as important as the printing press? No. But it does do away with a critical chapter of our history as mankind. If true, this will be the most important thing Steve has ever done.

I don't see how you can believe that. Gutenburg didn't invent the print world. His creation just gave the world a way to put copies of printed works in much cheaper packages. Instead of having to hand copy each book, now many could be printed quickly and relatively cheaply. And from that, related advances made it possible for the poorest peoples on the earth to have at least a decent chance at gaining access to books and other printed media. For example, right now, I can go to my local library and have access to tens of thousands of books and other print media for FREE (they'll even let me take some home for free).

If we think of the Tablet as a complete replacement, we must see it as inserting an upfront fee to gain access to that print media. Suppose my library charged (my guess) $799 to come in the door. Are the poorer people of the world who can gain access to printed books going to be able to buy a Tablet, so that they can then buy the books & other printed media via iTunes?

Or another way to see this: Gutenburg invented something to make print media considerably cheaper and more accessible to everyone. Apple is apparently about to roll out something that will add a big, fat price just for the container, plus additional costs to be able to buy & download print media into that container. In this way, I don't think they are much alike at all.

You're far over-estimating the impact and application of this Tablet. If it completely replaces the print-driven world, it will completely segregate those who can't afford it (and thus all the benefits of education & knowledge from what one can pick up through the media it serves) from the smaller segment that can afford it. And I realize you're not saying that it completely replaces it, but the analogy that iPods killed CDs (which it did not- there's still plenty of CD's being "printed") or that Macs killed a lot of print-oriented office equipment, etc (they did not, all that stuff is still in play in many offices), implies that you are seeing this Tablet on that kind of scale (and it is not).

Might it be a big, "wow!" product innovation? Sure. Might it be as big as you apparently think? I certainly hope not. I can easily afford it, but there's an awful lot of hungry people in the world that can't. I hope it compliments the print-media industry without replacing it for those people.
 
Jeez...You fanboys are certainly somewhat nutty!:)

This is 2010, not 1990. What revolutionary innovation could a tablet, or mini-computer POSSIBLY HAVE? Everything's pretty much been played out. It CAN'T be more than a multimedia player that has some cool gestures to run things. It''ll obviously be an eReader with some embedded multimedia functionality - so what, that's already on most internet sites. It can play music, novies, etc - ho hum. What the heck else could it POSSIBLY do? We already have a slew of 10" computers of all kinds - with or without keyboards. Many have graphic accelerators, can run a bunch of apps, etc.

This will NOT be revolutionary no matter how good Apple is in making everyone think it is. :) That said, it may be a cool device that's worth buying, like a lot of other cool devices. But it better to hell have some CAPACITY - like 128 GB. Otherwise it's pointless to buy.

Tony

Firstly, it is extremely presumptious of you to issue a blanket statement such as "you fanboys". Secondly, who is nutty?. Apple keep innovating, I am sure you'd be as enthused as they, were you the driving force behind all their highly acclaimed and successful innovations!.

How on earth do we know what it's going to have?. That's probably the whole point of all the excitement and buzz surrounding new Apple product releases, and they don't often let us down, and VERY often take us by surprise.
 
I've not seen the Apple PR machine crank out this much hype in a long, long time.

Either it is genuinely great, or they've spent a heck-ton of money developing it and not a few jobs (no pun intended) are riding on it being a success.
 
This is 2010, not 1990. What revolutionary innovation could a tablet, or mini-computer POSSIBLY HAVE? Everything's pretty much been played out.

^^^ Doesn't run a bajillion-dollar technology company. ^^^

(Thankfully)
 
Morning light straight in the eyes

Textbooks are mostly expensive because the buying audience is captive and forced to buy the book selected by the school/teacher (who then gets a nice share of the sale). I've often noticed that a cheap book mass marketed covers the topics just as good as the $100+ book for the class, yet the school decides that I need the $100+ book. Why? Profit.

When you have a scenario in which your buyer pretty much HAS TO BUY FROM YOU, you have the opportunity to charge whatever you want. Sure, a little bit of the revenues gets reallocated to cover the regular changes to the text, but I would offer that the changes are much more about mitigating the used book market vs. benefiting the education of the student.

It's just about the money. And what they might save by switching to e-version/e-delivery won't be passed on to students in the form of lower prices. It's just a bigger profit margin for the publisher... just like all the other media already for sale in the iTunes store.

So you think the print-industry will make the same misstake as the movie & music industry and risk piracy bonanza when they go digital? Of course they will price things at such a level people are willing to pay for it. Apple can prove that a fair pricing sells -a-ton with all those apps flying of for a reasonable fee, not to mention all the books & comics that are already selling for the iphone/ipod touch.

And please - try to think one step further - Why buy when you can pay a monthly fee to get access to a lot of material for a period of time (as long as you pay). Perfect for students! Pay while you study.

You see,
The real paradigm here is not a computer without a keyboard - the real paradigm here is the way content will be accessed. Don´t look to hard on the hardware - content is king - The hardwares purpose is only to distribute the content.
If you want to stream - make it smoth as a dream...

Oops. Said to much I guess.
 
If this quote is true, then this tablet is going to be something very special. Jobs might be thinking that the entire computer and media industries will be changed because of it. I cannot wait until Wednesday.

Me neither!

All tablets before now have tried to revolutionise the computer industry, but UI problems and Bad OSs have often held them back, whether Apple can break the pattern, I don't know. But hey, as long as it's better than a quite thin notebook and an iPod for your TV!
 
I pointed this out a few pages back. No way anyone with kids, and who seems to be an involved parent (he attends school functions, etc.) is going to make that statement - workaholic or not.
I think it could have reasonably been said within the understood context "This will be the most important (work related) thing I've ever done." And given that this is just a hearsay rumor supposedly heard by multiple independent sources, who's to say it wasn't prefaced with "Aside from my family...", and all we're hearing is the paraphrased punchline?

Anyhow who would include their children in the list of "things they've done"? Clearly, if Jobs actually said it at all, the implied context was work related things.
 
The printed word liberated the world from under-education. It brought the average man in grasp of the written word of their Gods, spawning the reformation in Europe, and hence the colonizing of the United States. The printed word allowed for higher learning and literature to enter the homes of the poor, allowing intellectual equality among the classes.

it does away with a critical chapter of our history as mankind.

Err, unless absolutely everyone in the world who can read owns a tablet, I think books are here to stay.

After all, the iPod didn't kill CDs, you can still buy them and most new songs are still released on them.
 
So you think the print-industry will make the same misstake as the movie & music industry and risk piracy bonanza when they go digital?

No, I simply think that it is much more likely that the print industry with a lock on pricing that students have to pay, will choose to pocket the savings of not having to print the book, rather than pass that savings on to students. The students HAVE to buy the book. There is no competition.

Besides, the publishers have the model of how the other media already in iTunes is priced relative to their "printed" versions. Why cut their own revenue & profit throats, when all this other media is priced roughly the same- or even more expensive- than it can be had on DVD or CD?

And please - try to think one step further - Why buy when you can pay a monthly fee to get access to a lot of material for a period of time (as long as you pay). Perfect for students! Pay while you study.

Again, that's great. But there is NO subscription model for iTunes media announced yet. The closest we get is media rentals, which are generally priced a lot higher than the same rentals via- say- Redbox for the physical version.

Your wishful thinking keeps revolving around this idea that the consumer is supposed to handsomely benefit (with lower overall costs). I'm with you there, and wish it would be that way. But the fact is that all these other players want to make as much money as they can. They don't make their money by cutting their revenues & profits.

Just look to existing iTunes media, and let that be your guide. Why is it that I can buy just about everything that is there in physical form for the same or less than those prices? Isn't it cheaper to deliver me a movie than to burn a disc and give Walmart a big cut? This will be no different.

But I'd love to be wrong. Students don't deserve to be locked up on the wrong end of a monopoly structure, trying to better themselves, yet being forced to buy the $150 book (printed or e-book) when something very much equivalent in the mass market could be had for <$25. That has, is, and may always be a ripoff. But the publishers see that same arrangement as "good money".
 
I hope Christ did not plan his second coming for this Wednesday. He won't get any coverage.
 
Jeez...You fanboys are certainly somewhat nutty!:)

This is 2010, not 1990. What revolutionary innovation could a tablet, or mini-computer POSSIBLY HAVE? Everything's pretty much been played out. ...
This will NOT be revolutionary no matter how good Apple is in making everyone think it is. :) That said, it may be a cool device that's worth buying, like a lot of other cool devices. But it better to hell have some CAPACITY - like 128 GB. Otherwise it's pointless to buy.

Tony

You are wrong believing this because it is not really about speed, memory or looks any more (although that helps sell to many of us) what Apple is going to do on Wednesday is blow open the idea of how we interface with the information all around us. Yes a steep learning curve for some (goodbye QWERTY) but not yet the cyborg age - that will be next decade. Yes many of us will be amazed "why didn't we think of this" and as usual Steve Jobs will keep smiling...
 
I hope Christ did not plan his second coming for this Wednesday. He won't get any coverage.

"Nobody came to my party" :(

jesus.jpg
 
That's right, the PC introduced the GUI and mouse to mainstream buyers and then . . . oh wait.

True Apple did do it first, sadly PCs made it more affordable for the normal folk first (thus paving the way for Apple to be so popular now).
 
Well the Newton ushered in PDAs and I can't wait for the tablet.
BUT this time, I am hoping for something with some memory-and memory that doesn't cost $1,000/gb either. I know he doesn't like too many extras (replaceable batteries) but it really needs a good amount of memory and an SD card slot paleeezzzz.
 
Well the Newton ushered in PDAs and I can't wait for the tablet.
BUT this time, I am hoping for something with some memory-and memory that doesn't cost $1,000/gb either. I know he doesn't like too many extras (replaceable batteries) but it really needs a good amount of memory and an SD card slot paleeezzzz.

If it is somewhere between 500 and 800 I think I will be getting one for my birthday (assuming it comes out between Wednesday and March).
 
Get ready for a huge flop,

and by flop i mean it's gonna sell like the air book pro or apple TV
 
Thank God you don't work at Apple.

Dude, he'd be laughed (politely) out of the interview.

I think this whole obsession with digital content and eBooks is a little far fetched, as far as people thinking that eBooks are some sort of amazing, revolutionary medium that "will replace paper books". Well if that is so, then why has it not happened yet?. An eBook is, essentially, just a digital encapsulation of text and pictures; pictures have been available in digital form, for a very long time, and text files, well, they've been around for an absolute age.

This is the same stupid viewpoint that the "iPhone killer" manufacturers want you to adopt - that this new product or technology is going to replace the existing one/s, when it could as easily be adopted and be thoroughly enjoyed beside the existing one/s.

It is going to take a lot for anything to replace physical paper media as a tangible and enjoyable way of consuming content; anyone who thinks to the contrary is either:

1/ The proprietor of/a shareholder of the company propogating said tech.

2/ Naive to the Nth degree, and a complete idiot.


"The paperless office" has yet to happen, no?. I could sit here and give you a lecture on why eBooks are the tools of corporations to control people, and control how they "allow" people to share what they rightfully "own" (yeah right!), but Richard Stallman does a FAR better job than I - I suggest you Google him, the man is incredibly smart!. Suffice it to say that I believe that any person who owns a physical, paper copy of a book or document, should be entitled to a digital duplicate of that document at insignificant cost, or ideally, free of charge. Who can say what an individual does with the content they have purchased?. Are you going to now tell me that I am not allowed to lend my friend a book I have just bought, because that is what eBooks try and do. Ridiculous, and yet so many folk blindly embrace this medium for the sake of convenience, without thinking properly about how it affects their freedom and their rights!.
 
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