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Steve Jobs Posts 'Thoughts on Flash' Open Letter

I thought it was a good letter. Surprised he published it, as I do not see a need- but who am I to say.

Wonder if he wrote it himself.
 
Sorry but he's telling porkies here. It's a business decision. If Adobe released a flash plugin that used negative energy and actually charged the ipad/iphone while running it would still be blocked.
 
Just got done reading the press release at Engadget. Very interesting points. Glad Apple is finally speaking out about this, they have been getting a beating for some time about this whole situation
 
nightfly13 said:
Seems the Reality Distortion Field is fully operational once more, because I didn't see any gaping logical holes or counter arguments crying out to be made.

I did sense a little bit of 'don't dumb down our apps to be the same on android' competition in his tone, but pretty easily justified by suggesting it's for the benefit of Apple, developers and consumers.

I wonder what's the best way to hear an informed counter-argument. Might go back to slashdot after a 5 year break to see what the haters have to say 🙂
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Do we *require* a counter-argument simply for that sake of having one?
 
Well, it looks like Flash will never come to the iPhone OS now. Interesting points, but I still wish we could use Flash, even if it made battery life half an hour.
 
I'm glad Steve and Apple have come out fully and explained to people why they don't have flash on the iphone and ipad. Its a really well written and persuasive statement, and I think lays out Apple's thinking for all to see. I know there will still be those that are mad that flash will never be on Apple mobile products, but at least they know exactly why they will never be there now. Before it was more speculation, but here we have the definitive statement about Apple's reasons.
 
He admits that they keep a tight lock on the platform, but this is the web he's talking about. Despite what some think, you don't have to be totally for open technology everywhere.
 
I think it's great Steve is putting his thoughts out there and sharing with everyone the reasons why Apple doesn't allow flash. There are some very strong points in here and I think this will really point out why we should be moving away from flash.
 
For the first time in history (aka my lifetime of dealing with Apple or anything related to it), I have to agree with what Jobs said in that article, pretty much all of it.

Hell sure is pretty cold today. 😉
 
This was very needed. Several small blogs have comments similar but coming from Steve the media might actually pay attention.

Not really sure how Adobe can strike back other than once again spouting off statistics. Adobe is interested in bottom line, Apple is interested in user experience. I'll take user experience. Being a web dev it SUCKS having to delay the use of technology because the major player isn't up to speed, Apple is committed to being up to speed, Adobe sets it's own (like IE).

Apple: 1, Adobe: 0
 
That should shut Adobe up.

Nice move by Steve I guess, it was such a huge topic for the past few weeks (before Gizmodo got laid into). This probably creates a diversion of sorts and clears up things from Apple's perspective.
 
*LTD* said:
He admits that they keep a tight lock on the platform, but this is the web he's talking about. Despite what some think, you don't have to be totally for open technology everywhere.
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Like H.264? That isn't open is it. 🙁
 
Schtumple said:
The fanboys are gunna love this...
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Thanks and i also like it when my Green bay packers win because im a fan of that football team. And i also like it when my Chicago cubs when and i'm a fan of my BMW. As well as a fan of New york style pizza. Whats wrong with being a fan of something?

Don't be so concerned about what other people spend their money on. Just live your life.
 
the problem i see with his last paragraph is that declaring something is history and cutting it off does not speed up the implementation of a replacement standard. there has to be a phase were both co-exist. i think flash on android pretty much answered his other points.

anyway, hundreds of positives incoming, i'm sure.
 
I don't read any new information in this letter. I think Steve was just reiterating the views we already know.

I also don't really see much validity in much of the arguments, except for the fact that Flash impacts battery life. There's a very simple solution for that : let the user decide whether he wants to enable flash or not. Oh but wait, Apple doesn't want the users deciding anything lately 🙄
 
"Perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind."

SNAP YO.

This is awesome, all the drama surrounding Apple recently has been like the tech world equivalent of Jersey Shore.
 
The Samurai said:
That should shut Adobe up.

Nice move by Steve I guess, it was such a huge topic for the past few weeks (before Gizmodo got laid into). This probably creates a diversion of sorts and clears up things from Apple's perspective.
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I Concur. I think people really needed a longer explanation of this issue. Because there was never anything short of a cryptic reponse on battery life made to address this previously.
 
I heard Gizmodo obtained the original Open Letter (by a person who found it in a bathroom stall) and Steve had to write it again!

🙂
 
rdowns said:
What is their position?
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They won't adopt it for Firefox because it is not an open standard. It is currently royalty free but at some stage (I ink 2015) it will become royalty charging as it is a patented technology. Therefore Mozilla have taken the opinion that a fully open standard should be employed for Firefox. It's possible though that at some stage someone will make a H.264 plugin for Firefox.
 
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