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I have never seen a tshirt saying how much a person has given to charity or a bumper sticker.

I have!

In serveral countries too. :eek:

It's official. Giving to others is supposed to make you feel sad and depressed.

Self gratification is a motive. Hell, our modern economy is built around that motive. Not everything is conscious. Just like you can be addicted to caffiene and not notice.
 
Jobs, you are worth 5+ billion dollars, and you can't give us LOYAL iPhone users multitasking? Gosh darn-it, OS 4.0 better be A+!!!!!!
 
Wikipedia lists the iTunes music catalog as 11+ million songs worldwide. Assuming he buys full albums, the average cost per song would drop below a buck. So yeah, Steve could buy it all. The TV shows, movies, apps, etc. wouldn't be a problem either. Chump change for Jobs.

I bet Steve's figured out a back door into the iTunes library. Those old "blue box" hormones are still there. :cool:
 
What is the point of this article? Am I supposed to care where he is ranked or how much he is worth?


I like Jobs but this deification of him is getting ridiculous. How about we get to issues like when he will release new MBPs. Or will they never be updated again?
 
Mr. Gates didn't give squat away until he married Mrs. Gates. She's the one who makes him wash his hair, get haircuts, and pretend to have a social conscious.

Does it matter when he gave the money away? Haven't you ever heard the love of a good woman can change a man's ways?
 
And he plans to give away 90% of it in his lifetime.

Bill Gates as MS head - Hate him

Bill Gates philanthropist - great guy

my feelings, too


I hated Bill Gates until I realized his financial gesture to Apple was genuine.

I remember the lack of confidence people had in Apple and the terrible shape it was in for nearly couple of years after Gil and company. One of the things besides the iMac which helped Apple back to health was Bill's investment in Apple. It was more of a symbolic gesture than a monetary one, but this opened a lot of investors to the idea of rethinking Apple as a viable company.

The people who like Steve Jobs now are pretty much the ones who liked him during the exile, and during his first tenure at Apple. He has his fans but even his creative brilliance was not enough to get the suits involved. The basic concept of a single person cutting a $150 million dollar check causes a few sparks.

Suddenly, business magazines and newspapers started talking about Apple. In the past, whenever Mr. Gates touched something, it usually turned to gold so when he touched Apple, people outside of high tech "discovered" Apple. It was an exciting time to see a company I loved, which the rest of my friends thought was a joke, start becoming a real business and a good company to add to the portfolio.

Bill's moves will be watched until the day he dies, and probably after. He made a commitment to fight AIDS and malaria in Africa, and later many other rich people and celebrities began to believe a difference could be made. Without the attention and money of Bill Gates, I would hate to see what condition Africa would be in now. While there is still a lot of humanitarian work to be done there, I have no doubt he will continue to change that continent.

The hardest part of this whole rebirth of Bill Gates was admitting to my PC Bill Gates' worshiping friends that Microsoft's co-founder not only won the battle of the operating systems, but actually could have been the most important person besides Steve Jobs who brought Apple back to health. It was kind of a Darth Vader moment as Microsoft fans told us Apple fans, "I told you so"
 
When you have that much it's easy to give.

Bigger respect to all the regular people who have very little, who might be struggling themselves, but still give financially, or of their time.

Of course, the big-dollar handouts get the most attention.

Well, yeah, I think giving away more than $30 billion has a little more of an effect than $5 toward a Haiti relief fund. Just saying.
 
Charitible acts always have anterior motives, even if its just attention. True charity is something not humanly possible. :(

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That isnt a particularily good picture of jobs.

all pathological hate for MS and anything related to it aside, this is one of those particular cases where things are just not black or white. We could argue whether the ends justify the means, which in this case I think it does, but then again I'm a moral relativist.

Hell, attention or not, giving away all that money is not an easy thing to do.
 
Well, yeah, I think giving away more than $30 billion has a little more of an effect than $5 toward a Haiti relief fund. Just saying.

When it comes to giving, big amounts from rich people and small amounts from poor people are all welcome. There are far more poor people than there are people in Bill Gates territory, so the amount of money given in small amounts by many, many people make a huge difference.

While medications here cost a lot of money, CNN was reporting the need for giving during the Haiti crisis and mentioning that even a little could help. A much needed generic antibiotic costs 1 cent (US) per pill over there. In that context, the network was mentioning how even small amounts saves lives.

So for helping the world, Bill Gates, and the rest of us need to help those in Haiti or other parts of the world.
 
all pathological hate for MS and anything related to it aside, this is one of those particular cases where things are just not black or white. We could argue whether the ends justify the means, which in this case I think it does, but then again I'm a moral relativist.

Hell, attention or not, giving away all that money is not an easy thing to do.

Not when you have more money than cells in your body.
 
proud of Slim Helu, you guys should see..u think ATT is Expensive and bad
? he charges for iphone 1000 dlls, and no unlimeted data available.

not true.... almost all plans have unlimited data and the price you give is for pay-as-you-go...
 
Not when you have more money than cells in your body.

Greed, it's just a natural feature of every human being. The more you have the more you want, be it power or money. I'm positive that for virtually everyone, giving away almost half of your fortune is not an easy thing to do.

Sure, it doesn't bring the complications it would bring to those in the working class, but still, you are giving away half of your money.

Then again I could be wrong, but if I am, in this particular case, as I said, the ends justify the means.
 
I think you just proved yourself right.

OMG I did too. :rolleyes:

MorphingDragon, just because you slit your wrists and fall asleep to the sound of your own screams, it doesn't mean you need to bring your morbid depression based outlook on life here.

Why don't you head over here,where you seem to belong.
http://www.depressionforums.org/

Posts like these are always funny.

You need to reread what Ive written, theres a motive to everything wether you realise that or not. When we lose that motive we become couch potatos. Its your fault if you think a motive is always a bad thing. If your aspiration is to call a socially iffy topic starter depressed well good for you. But this really belongs in off topic.

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All this because I used a word with not quite the meaning I was looking for.
 
Nothing is permanent

Everything changes. Those who have amassed great wealth due to business might be perceived as lucky, a visionary, or entrepreneur.

Money is attracted to money, poverty attracts poverty.

Poverty consciousness is a state of mind and a belief that one is poor and will always be poor.

Those we see in third world countries do not have the Bill Gates dream but something simpler.

Also wealth does not buy happiness or good health and you cannot take any of it with you which is the big leveler as we are all equal.

However it is very important that we hold gratitude for that which we have rather than lament what we do not have - like the new MacBook Pro!

Who is the more fullfilled being, Steve or Bill, which is the happier?

One needs to give some back...
 
And he plans to give away 90% of it in his lifetime.

Bill Gates as MS head - Hate him

Bill Gates philanthropist - great guy


Bill Gates (and all multimillionaire philanthropists) gives his money to charities for ulterior motives. I can't recall all the details, but when I was in law school we went over how charities can be used as a means of funneling money for corporations. Gates would have to pay a lot of money in taxes either way, but when he donates money to charity his taxes dramatically decrease, not to mention all the great publicity he gets for it.

Most importantly, he gets to say where his money goes and what its spent on. It was discovered that a significant amoount of Gates money that had been donated had gone to help anti-humanitarian purposes like sweat shops
 
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