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Steve surely is not a zenist. Everyone who follows it, know that sure doesn't exists, and there are endless points of view for everything. Contrary, he's absolutely confident that all what he does, is best, and the only right. And he better knows what others need. He's more as crusader catholic, George Bush of technology.

There is not such a word as "zenist". Steve was married by a zen monk fyi.

And about the charitable Gates, read a bit from this

"Investments
The foundation invests the assets that it has not yet distributed, with the exclusive goal of maximizing the return on investment. As a result, its investments include companies that have been criticized for worsening poverty in the same developing countries where the Foundation is attempting to relieve poverty. These include companies that pollute heavily and pharmaceutical companies that do not sell into the developing world.[50] In response to press criticism, the foundation announced in 2007 a review of its investments to assess social responsibility.[51] It subsequently cancelled the review and stood by its policy of investing for maximum return, while using voting rights to influence company practices.[52]"

Here too, http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/the_bigger_picture/Bill_Gates_Philanthropist_or_Polluter.html

Why would they review and choose not to check where they invest in? Maximising profit by investing in companies that add to poverty, pollution, the withholding of medical treatments? Don't they have enough money to perform their "charities" already? They are richer than many 3rd world countries. Can't they find better investments, are all other companies that don't contribute negatively to the world un-invastable for the Gates foundation? Because thousands of these companies are turning a profit to stay in business.

Read the Lancet article on Bill Gates Foundation too, one can hardly find more reliable or prominent sources than this.

Better Steve being honourable and contributing behind closed doors than this pathetic circus...
 
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Better Steve being honourable and contributing behind closed doors than this pathetic circus...

But, if it's behind closed doors, we have no evidence whether it
is true or not.

Only the faith of the Apple fans that the turtlenecked overlord
is donating billions to help the world's less fortunate - no
evidence.
 
But, if it's behind closed doors, we have no evidence whether it
is true or not.

Only the faith of the Apple fans that the turtlenecked overlord
is donating billions to help the world's less fortunate - no
evidence.

As per your usual another misinformed and irrelevant post by you.

First of all how is this a respond to the criticism of the Gates Foundation? You conventionally omitted that.

Secondly, I don't like the use of the mocking and pejorative term overlord? If you think you are in a forum with fans with overlords why do you bother posting? Masochism? It's also offensive to posters here, such as myself, because in your infinite wisdom you somehow think you can insinuate that other people are ignorant deluded ship.

Of course it's not your fault, it's the moderators fault who 've repeatedly allowed you to be grating and offensive to apple users here. You should have been banned three years ago.But it helps that you 've buddied up some time ago to the moderators here so you are immune to the moderating that other users accept, and you can be ironic and mocking. That's why the best posters have mostly gone over to ai, and mr has been reduced to kids.

Thirdly, yes there won't be any evidence, because unlike your crass understanding of charity, real charity does not involve pr machines and media friendly foundations, it's done silently and in private because it's an act of altruism not self promotion. Charity is the antithesis actually of self promotion, and should have nothing to do with it.
 
First of all how is this a respond to the criticism of the Gates Foundation? You conventionally omitted that.

It wasn't a response to anything about the Gates Foundation.

It was a response to:

Originally Posted by applesupergeek

Better Steve being honourable and contributing behind closed doors than this pathetic circus...

This post has some blind assumption that Steve is making huge
donations behind closed doors. Since it's closed, we'll never
know. We have no evidence, only the belief of the faithful.
 
But, if it's behind closed doors, we have no evidence whether it
is true or not.

Only the faith of the Apple fans that the turtlenecked overlord
is donating billions to help the world's less fortunate - no
evidence.

You're so subversive. How many Macs and iPhones do you own??? :rolleyes:
 
comment from the sideline: subversive? bad attitude? come on, guys. macrumors isn't a finishing school. just because we like apple doesn't mean we always have to like apple.

Dmann and I frequently clash with Aiden and are far from the sideline. He doesnt need to like Apple but hes descending further and further into annoying white noise with nothing real to contribute and often the cause of a thread derail.
 
These MSM lists never list the Rothchilds, Rockefellers, or other banking dynasty elites, who are literally worth many hundreds of trillions. Probably more than Forbes' entire list combined.
 
When you have that much it's easy to give.

Bigger respect to all the regular people who have very little, who might be struggling themselves, but still give financially, or of their time.

Of course, the big-dollar handouts get the most attention.

Totally agree with you, and someone who has loads of money and gives nothing, looks like a total ass compared to the regular people who have very little, might be struggling, but still give financially, or of thier time. oww wait, Jobs is really rich... gives away nothing :rolleyes:
 
Jobs is really rich... gives away nothing :rolleyes:

You have no proof of that. Many people prefer to donate anonymously, as I'm sure a man who enjoys his privacy as much as Jobs would.

I have no proof that he has donated, but I don't go making that claim. Little lesson in life, be sure to have evidence for your claims. ;)
 
You need to re-read my sentence because your comprehension skills are terrible. Yes Apple uses Chinese 'practically slave' labour but thats not relevant to the original point.

I guess youve never done anything remotely close to running a business.

Let's try again. Here is your original sentence: "Because of Mr Gates' creation of the 'cheap computer for all' revolution, we now have slave labour for electronics production."

Hypothesis: Mr. Gates did not actually create the cheap computer for all revolution.

1) "Cheap computer revolution" refers to the use of Chinese manufacturing in the production of computers.

2) Apple products are manufactured in China.

3) Apple goes out of its way to avoid any of Mr. Gates's "revolutions".

∴ Mr. Gates did not create the cheap computer for all revolution.

Q.E.D.


No, I'm still a student and therefore, yes, I don't have any relevant business experience. What does this have to do with the double standard some are applying to Mr. Jobs and Mr. Gates?
 
Let's try again. Here is your original sentence: "Because of Mr Gates' creation of the 'cheap computer for all' revolution, we now have slave labour for electronics production."

Hypothesis: Mr. Gates did not actually create the cheap computer for all revolution.

1) "Cheap computer revolution" refers to the use of Chinese manufacturing in the production of computers.

2) Apple products are manufactured in China.

3) Apple goes out of its way to avoid any of Mr. Gates's "revolutions".

∴ Mr. Gates did not create the cheap computer for all revolution.

Q.E.D.


No, I'm still a student and therefore, yes, I don't have any relevant business experience. What does this have to do with the double standard some are applying to Mr. Jobs and Mr. Gates?

The advent of the Wintel PC caused a race to the bottom between OEMs. They ended up resorting to Cheap Chinese Labour. Macs were made in America until around about the G3/4s. Now most Computers including macs are made in China or use Chinese labour in some form. I'm not talking about the present I was talking about the past. The Revolution has happened. - There is no double standard. Bill Gates thorugh windows started the cheap computer r evolution. Apple was always the slightly higher priced option. They were cheaper overall because they offered more overall.
 
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