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Steve Jobs Recovering From Hormone Imbalance, To Remain CEO

NT1440 said:
yes, hes not human and he and his family dont deserve the same rights that you do, simply because he happens to be well known.:rolleyes:
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Not because he's famous, because he happens to effect others financially. If you want the large compensation plan and the authority to play with the money of others, you have to give up something in return and that something is a bit of privacy.
 
BenRoethig said:
Not because he's famous, because he happens to effect others financially. If you want the large compensation plan and the authority to play with the money of others, you have to give up something in return and that something is a bit of privacy.
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Really? Where is that written into law?

Or is that another one of those "i just need to say what I feel and present it as fact" kind of things.

I dont see how a NON LIFE THREATENING ailment is anyones business, aside from the keynote it really doesnt seem like its affected his or the companies performance at all. If his cancer had returned I'd say yes once he had everything arranged personally first then bring it to public, merely because that would actually affect his performance.
 
farmboy said:
What part of IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS is not clear to you? Just because YOU say he's "rich" his life is an open door, there is no legal basis requiring any such disclosure, despite what some posters continue to say. It's a corporation, not Jobs personal fiefdom. Just because he has a personality doesn't change that.

Maybe we should demand an actuarial time clock accompany corporate information---clicking down how many days the CEO has left. And why stop there---the VP, COO, the Board Members and mailroom clerks too, as they all affect corporate performance.
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Are you an apple shareholder?

It's my business because it affects my wallet, and it's my business if they are lying to the public or intentionally withholding information which affects my ability to invest wisely. Certain positions in society involve giving up certain amounts of privacy, that is just reality.

Let me propose this to you: what if Jobs did have recurrent cancer (I don't believe he does) and the board knows it and allows release of fraudulent information because they don't want the stock to tank. according to your line of thinking that's perfectly OK because he has a right to privacy. According to my line of thinking that's fraud, and stockholders have a right to be upset.

Again, there is no "apple" as an organism, there are only shareholders who own the company and the board has a responsibilty to protect our interests.
 
canyonblue737 said:
There is legal precedent that a company with knowledge of a health issue of a CEO that could effect their job and company performance must disclose it.

Sorry. A shareholder has a fundamental right too.

He doesn't need to explain anything to us, but for the last year shrugging off his weight loss in public and having Apple PR release statement after statement saying there are no health concerns is flat out illegal.
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The legal precedent is ridiculous for a million reasons and if you are putting shareholder's rights first you are fundamentally wrong.
 
pprior said:
Are you an apple shareholder?

It's my business because it affects my wallet, and it's my business if they are lying to the public or intentionally withholding information which affects my ability to invest wisely. Certain positions in society involve giving up certain amounts of privacy, that is just reality.

Let me propose this to you: what if Jobs did have recurrent cancer (I don't believe he does) and the board knows it and allows release of fraudulent information because they don't want the stock to tank. according to your line of thinking that's perfectly OK because he has a right to privacy. According to my line of thinking that's fraud, and stockholders have a right to be upset.

Again, there is no "apple" as an organism, there are only shareholders who own the company and the board has a responsibilty to protect our interests.
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How much money are you making as an Apple shareholder? Really now?
 
NT1440 said:
Well idk, how bout you prepare for a few weeks to give a huge two hour speech under incredibly hot lights to a loud room. Its stressful, amazingly stressful, something someone who isn't completely healthy probably wouldn't want to do or shouldn't do.
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There was great article in one of the major newspapers about the entire keynote procedure a few years ago. Additionally, I think one of the xplane guys wrote a blog post on it.

Apple basically spends the entire month of December on Macworld. Steve himself rehearses it everyday for three weeks. He also creates his own keynote slides (but the marketing group inserts the graphics).

They put a lot of effort into this. It sounds grueling.
 
Great news Steve will be alright

After reading all of the recent speculation it is good to hear that Steve is going to be ok.

Interesting reading all the comments here!

Some medical conditions are described as having an 'insidious onset' which means it isn't always clear that whether there really is a problem in the early stages. If the doctors have been finding nothing wrong with each of their tests, then until they DO find something wrong they cannot be accused of misleading anyone.

Also interesting seeing people trying to guess what's wrong with him. If it's taken the doctors this long to find a diagnosis with access to his medical records then you can be sure it's not going to be something common like a thyroid problem. As someone with some medical knowledge it would be interesting to know the details, but clearly Steve feels that he has been forced into disclosing more than he would like anyway.

Now time to sit back and see what new products Apple has for us over the year ahead. Top of my wish list are: 1) iMac 2) Apple TV 3) Snow Leopard 4) Wireless extended keyboard 5) Mighty Mouse with touch sensor instead of the scroll ball.
 
When I scrolled to the bottom of the first page of comments on this story, I saw this randomly-served "Ads by Google" banner ad:


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Now, I know that Macrumors doesn't have control over which specific Google ads are served, but the juxtaposition of this particular ad with the story of SJ's weight loss is rather unfortunate.
 
Wow.
I have to give Steve some serious credit, he shared some very personal information with the world. I wouldn't be able to share something like that, but I appreciate that he finally clarified the situation.
As an Apple Shareholder this is reassuring and I hope Steve recovers and lives to lead Apple through many more decades.
 
WhySoSerious said:
uhhh....that's what Bear Stearns said.....an 85 year old brokerage firm that collapsed over 1 weekend because of a run on the bank.

ya never know.......ya never know.....
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Apple have $25 Billion in the bank, so thats not going to happen
and a run on apple products would surely be a good thing?
 
jaw04005 said:
There was great article in one of the major newspapers about the entire keynote procedure a few years ago. Additionally, I think one of the xplane guys wrote a blog post on it.

Apple basically spends the entire month of December on Macworld. Steve himself rehearses it everyday for three weeks. He also creates his own keynote slides (but the marketing group inserts the graphics).

They put a lot of effort into this. It sounds grueling.
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Exactly what I was referring to, alot of people seem to think he just strolls onstage and starts blabbing on. In reality he rehearses his keynotes endlessly, and that can be very demanding.

I think hes doing the right thing right now by focusing on getting better, but dammit he better be making more presentations with his new pleasantly plump figure:p
 
cmob said:
You are wrong. Capitalizing seasons has NEVER been taught in American schools. If anything, not capitalizing is "old school" and the trend to capitalize is "part of the dumbing down of English."
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If you want to be really "old school" then you would capitalise seasons, as that is how it is done in the United Kingdom, you know, where the language originated...

Just being pedantic, if I cause offense by this then I am minuspeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericabobulation.
 
swingerofbirch said:
If the explanation is so innocent, why isn't he keynoting? Maybe it's implicit that his health isn't the best and that having Schiller do the keynote is a continuation of him giving up more and more control as time goes on, not because of acute illness but because of a general knowledge that he seems to have a propensity toward illness at this stage of his life.
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Right at the beginning at the article: This was the first time he spent and uninterrupted Christmas holiday with his family in eleven years. That's a pretty good reason.
 
NT1440 said:
You sir, are a festusio.

See, I can make up words too ;)

any way back on topic:

How much has the stock risen since the letter?
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The letter hit the exchange at the start of play today I believe, so on the day stocks up 4.22%.

Touche, sadly my words were borrowed from messers Atkinson, Curtis and Elton (Google them if you don't know who they are).
 
pprior said:
Are you an apple shareholder?

It's my business because it affects my wallet, and it's my business if they are lying to the public or intentionally withholding information which affects my ability to invest wisely. Certain positions in society involve giving up certain amounts of privacy, that is just reality.

Let me propose this to you: what if Jobs did have recurrent cancer (I don't believe he does) and the board knows it and allows release of fraudulent information because they don't want the stock to tank. according to your line of thinking that's perfectly OK because he has a right to privacy. According to my line of thinking that's fraud, and stockholders have a right to be upset.

Again, there is no "apple" as an organism, there are only shareholders who own the company and the board has a responsibilty to protect our interests.
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Just so I'm clear, you're arguing that Mr Jobs needs to disclose his health to all shareholders because the Board or the Company MAY commit fraud with that information? Sounds like you're afraid of the BoD depriving you of investment information not of Steve's health. What if they know the new 17" MBP will catch fire 10% of the time? What if they know iPhone use causes some horrible disease? Steve talking about his health doesn't change the trust level we have to put in the BoD. Don't like it? Don't buy the stock, or attend the shareholder meeting and express your concern.

Besides, his health hasn't affected your wallet in any way what so ever. He hasn't made any ruinous decisions while ill nor has he hasn't failed to attend any critical meetings or functions (that we know of). So what's affected your wallet is rumors and speculation about Mr Jobs, not his health. They can disclose all the information they want. People are still going to try to out-guess the market irregardless of disclosures of health.

Just my thoughts....

Rich
 
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Poor steve. I give him credit for releasing such a letter to the public. :( Phil will do fine at the Keynote, Just work on get well soon Steve :D
 
pprior said:
Are you an apple shareholder?

It's my business because it affects my wallet, and it's my business if they are lying to the public or intentionally withholding information which affects my ability to invest wisely. Certain positions in society involve giving up certain amounts of privacy, that is just reality.

Let me propose this to you: what if Jobs did have recurrent cancer (I don't believe he does) and the board knows it and allows release of fraudulent information because they don't want the stock to tank. according to your line of thinking that's perfectly OK because he has a right to privacy. According to my line of thinking that's fraud, and stockholders have a right to be upset.

Again, there is no "apple" as an organism, there are only shareholders who own the company and the board has a responsibilty to protect our interests.
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I'm a shareholder. The stock was up over 4% today. Why are you so angry?

If you think Steve and the board are lying to you, why do you still own AAPL stock? If you think this is all one big lie and cover up, why didn't you get out a year ago when thin Steve showed up at Macworld?

You sound like a bit of a masochist holding AAPL shares while ranting on a message board about how Steve and the Apple Board keep screwing you over.

I would have thought more people would take my point of view. I own AAPL shares. Things that make AAPL go up in price make me happy. Am I the strange one here?
 
MBX said:
"The remedy for this nutritional problem is relatively simple and straightforward, and I've already begun treatment. But, just like I didn't lose this much weight and body mass in a week or a month, my doctors expect it will take me until late this Spring to regain it. I will continue as Apple's CEO during my recovery."

Does anybody know what he means by "simple and straightforward"? What kind of treatment is it?
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Probably some kind of natural supplement of the vitamins necessary, that have been taken by the hormone imbalance.
 
The story would be more believable if they would have use the word "enzyme" instead of "hormone."

Hopefully Steve has not totally given up on alternative cancer treatments, as the establishment really does not have the answer for pancreatic cancer.

Steve, when the body cannot digest "essential fats" because of an enzyme imbalance there is still one very healthy fat that the body can process...virgin coconut oil! Get some, eat it often!

Good luck Steve
 
ppnkg said:
How much money are you making as an Apple shareholder? Really now?
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Given the recent stock prices, very little, LOL.

Listen, I'm a small time investor. I'm not some big shot that makes a living trading, but I do invest in apple stock as an individual and simply am making the point that I (along with every other shareholder) have a right to be informed, or at the very minimum not misled by the board of directors.

I think my position is clear, and it is prinicpled. Others may disagree. I don't need to clarify futher and will leave with again stating my best wishes for SJ recovery from whatever mystery illness he has.

Addendum to Oxtail: I didn't realize I was ranting, I'm just reasoning around speculation, which is why I come to this forum. I don't get investing advice here, and am not dispensing any of my own. I'm not out because despite the hammering apple has taken and the horrible current business climate I think they are continuing to grow marketshare, have a wad of cash, and can make me money. I am arguing the principle of the matter, which I guess is intellectually interesting to me. If we don't hold our BoDs to high levels of expectation, we get Enron, which I don't want to see again.
 
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