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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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iEdd said:
I doubt it. I mean it would be all well and good for the neo Apple users who's computing needs are met by an iPad, but some of us need to get stuff done. :(
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I sold my iPad because I didn't have any use for it. Then I see a sign for $399 after selling it for over $500 on Craigslist, so I'm stuck with another one. It was one of those no-brainer's, but you get my point.

So why exactly do you think that you "have to have one" [optical drive] (or Bluray drive). I'm no "neo Apple" user. In fact, I just bought my first Mac since '92 about six months ago. And I'm loving every minute I get to sit in front of this beauty, but I digress. ;)

Just check out the MacBook Air. That's the future of MacBook's and MBP's. Did you see what comes with the new Air's in place of the restore DVD's? A tiny little "Flash key" in case you need to re-install. Why are so many people so stubbornly stuck with the idea of having a, by comparison, huge CD or DVD to store files. I remember the days when I was a PC user when people used to cry about how long it took to install Vista or Windows 7. :rolleyes: Really? I just made myself, as I always do, a bootable Flash drive and it installed in a little more than 5 minutes onto my SSD. I could hear a pin drop with no optical drive and with no traditional hard drive. :D
 
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Skim over the last few 10s of pages for why users still need optical drives.

As for the MacBook Airs. I have one. Brand new 11.6". It's amazing, but it's not my computer for getting more serious work done. SSDs are very much the future though, I agree on that point.
 
iEdd said:
Skim over the last few 10s of pages for why users still need optical drives.

As for the MacBook Airs. I have one. Brand new 11.6". It's amazing, but it's not my computer for getting more serious work done. SSDs are very much the future though, I agree on that point.
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I agree with you on the Air. It wouldn't be my primary computer either, nor would it replace my laptop, although I suppose it could depending on what you need your laptop to be able to do.
 
Who cares about Blu-Ray? Blu-Ray is dead.

Just bring (Flash) full internet experience to iPad! ;) Just like MBP´s have!
 
Every time this thread comes up, I want to post this, and I"m sure it has been said by someone else in the millions of pages of replies, but I just want to say it.

My problem with Steve's statement in this issue is that the type of high-speed Internet needed to download or stream at least 720p movies is still not available to everyone.

In the US, there are massive amounts of people with no reliable broadband option that don't live in urban areas. Still, there are people in some urban areas where there is no Comcast, Road Runner, Verizon, or AT&T broadband but instead a locally-owned, slow-as-balls family-owned cable company/ISP. They still exist.

Meanwhile, every one of these people is more than capable of using Netflix, Blockbuster by mail, or Redbox (they're doing Blu-Ray now, right?) to get HD movies, and being able to play them on a Mac would probably be pretty nice.
 
Mal said:
Wow, you picked the one item that's even less likely than Bluray on a Mac.

jW
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Yeah, Flash appears to be the tech item that has a quicker decline. Sure, it's still used a lot, but HTML5 is the steamroller here.

brownpaw makes a good point about companies like RedBox having Blu-ray. The mainstream broadband is big, but there's still a lot of people that don't have capable broadband for downloading or streaming. And a place like Red Box gives them the option to rent a movie.
 
OllyW said:
How than that be Bubba, when it's common knowledge that Blu-ray is already dead? ;)
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It's unpossible. Must be zombie dead. :D

When my store got the first Vaios with BD players, the first thing I did was pop BD King Kong in the unit and let her rip. Customers were stunned at the quality. They thought it was 3D. We couldn't keep them in stock. My manager told me to quit demoing the BD movie because it was hurting sales on non-BD laptops. I won a backpack at the monthly sales award meeting. :D
 
Aren't most of the older DVD "blu-rays" just upscaled versions of their original quality? I didn't notice any difference in several "blu-ray" copies vs. the original DVD copies I have.
 
please try again, your post doesn't seem to make sense

Stvwndr219 said:
Aren't most of the older DVD "blu-rays" just upscaled versions of their original quality? I didn't notice any difference in several "blu-ray" copies vs. the original DVD copies I have.
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First, what is a '"blu-ray" copy' ? If it's not a legally purchased BD disc, then who knows what it is? (If you're stealing content via the torrents, there probably are some upscaled DVD rips touted as BD.)

And what is an 'older DVD "blu-ray"' - that makes no sense. A disc can be a DVD or a BD, there's no "DVD BD" anywhere.

I've only upgraded a few of my favorite DVDs to BD, and they've all been dramatically sharper than the DVD. I recently picked up the BD of a 35 year old classic. Blu-ray.com's review says:

Rocky Horror fans will rejoice at Fox's stellar, all-new 2K/4K master, struck from the original camera negatives and given a satisfying 1080p/AVC-encoded transfer in the intended 1.66:1 aspect ratio. ...
Fox has gone well beyond the call of duty to give Rocky Horror a robust DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 surround track—yes, 7.1—that straight up rock 'n' rolls.
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So, a remastered 4K digital master and a lossless 7.1 audio track makes it worth the price.

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(note - not a 1080p screen cap)​

If you're curious about a particular BD disc, look it up at Blu-ray.com to get production details.
 
AidenShaw said:
I've only upgraded a few of my favorite DVDs to BD, and they've all been dramatically sharper than the DVD.
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I have done this, too. And for the ones I have, the difference is very noticeable. The Bourne Series appeared to be crisper and less jumpy and the remastered "Songs Remains The Same" was heads above the previous video released I had owned (which looked like a bad VHS>DVD transfer)
 
Stvwndr219 said:
Aren't most of the older DVD "blu-rays" just upscaled versions of their original quality? I didn't notice any difference in several "blu-ray" copies vs. the original DVD copies I have.
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Absolutely not. Not anymore than the early DVDs were "upscaled" from LaserDisc or VHS.

All transfers start from film (with the exception of straight-to-digital like Pixar and Star Wars II and III). The quality of the original film is a big variable.

What did happen, however, is telecine transfer technology has continually improved. Some early Blu-Rays had lazy MPEG-2 transfers made for HDTV (such as Fifth Element, which was notorious for it) and these transfers may be as old as 10 years. Going through the effort to do a new transfer and use a newer codec like H.264 vastly improves the picture quality. Lazy early transfers like Fifth Element have been corrected by the offending studios and pretty much every new transfer is leagues ahead of it.
 
janstett said:
Absolutely not. Not anymore than the early DVDs were "upscaled" from LaserDisc or VHS.

All transfers start from film (with the exception of straight-to-digital like Pixar and Star Wars II and III). The quality of the original film is a big variable.

What did happen, however, is telecine transfer technology has continually improved. Some early Blu-Rays had lazy MPEG-2 transfers made for HDTV (such as Fifth Element, which was notorious for it) and these transfers may be as old as 10 years. Going through the effort to do a new transfer and use a newer codec like H.264 vastly improves the picture quality. Lazy early transfers like Fifth Element have been corrected by the offending studios and pretty much every new transfer is leagues ahead of it.
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Registration (with digital software correction) has also vastly improved. What makes today's productions so clear is because they've never been projected or run through a telecine, therefore the registration (the picture jumping around) is perfect. Digital software correction of registration can make even the oldest of films look unbelievably clearer and sharper than anyone has ever seen them before, especially on larger screens where registration bounce-around is incredibly annoying.

:apple:
 
AidenShaw said:
Do you have USB 3.0 and eSATA versions of "CrankyJobs" ? The overlord's anti-technology crusade is wider than just BD.
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There's already a separate thread for USB 3... but it seems to have fizzled out, apparently due to lack of interest (plus folks like you couldn't stop chirping about BD in that thread either).
 
I really think that the Apple line of systems would benefit from a BluRay drive - not for the movie playback etc, but more for the storage abilities. I for one wouldnt mind being able to back data up onto BluRay discs etc, or to read data from BluRay.
As it is, Im probably going to need to look for an external solution.....
 
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