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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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What does the FreeBSD kernel have to do with OS X anyhow ? I think you're confusing things a bit here.
(and note I'm not discussing the blu-ray thing anymore in this thread).
broken link - your FreeBSD system must have crashed while posting....
No, most likely an Internet Explorer limitation. Works here on Linux and OSX.
No, most likely an Internet Explorer limitation. Works here on Linux and OSX.
Nope, it's probably related to direct linking. Since you have seen the image once, you're pulling it from cache. If we do a straight request, we get a HTTP 200 code :
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HEAD /pictures/third_party_facepalm0.jpg HTTP/1.1
Host: static.funnyjunk.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OKHowever, pulling out HttpFox and tracing the connection for your image from the IMG tag returns a 302, which is a redirect :
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(Status-Line) HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily
Server nginx/0.7.64
Date Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:04:37 GMT
Content-Type text/html
Content-Length 161
Location http://www.funnyjunk.com/So the site is doing something depending on which headers it sees in the request, probably in an attempt to block forum posts of its pictures, like you did.
Of course, all of this is something a half competent Unix admin could've understood, instead of just posting an anti-Windows rant.
First, I am no fanboy. If Banana Computer, Inc. made better products than SJ and Co. I would drop SJ like a hot potato. The only reason I use Apple is because they currently make the best products. No one will come out with a better iPad. In fact an Etch A Sketch has the competetion beat by a long shot. Nothing will touch the MacBook Air ( I want one but don't need one yet). iPod? Yeah right. Phones? No comment. And last, the best working computers by far. Oh, and an added bonus is that Apple products look elegant, "not as clumsy or random as a blaster."
Second, I am not even going to entertain a OSX versus Windows 7 debate. Its pointless to argue with Windows fans on this subject. I would rather spend my time on my computer that "just works." With over two decades of Windows use, I have never witnessed such a headache free computing experience such as OSX. I am willing to bet the majority of forum members would agree.
Then I have no idea why I see iMacs and Mac Pros in the offices of Advertising/Photo/Video professionals businesses? Perhaps they make good decorations.
And to get back on topic again, not having a BD player in a Mac is a non issue for the millions of Mac users out there. It doesn't seem to be hurting MacBook Air sales.
No, most likely an Internet Explorer limitation. Works here on Linux and OSX.
sorry fails on OSX, Chrome, Safari, Firefox, IE, Windows.
I recomend you do not make yourself look like a fool. I tested it on every browser I have access to and fails in everything.
Nice of you to admit Aiden was right and you were wrong in this case, no matter how subtle you're trying to make it.
Nice of you to admit Aiden was right and you were wrong in this case, no matter how subtle you're trying to make it.
I didn't realize we were keeping score. I thought we were talking about why BD not in Macs is really a non issue for the millions of Mac users out there.
Out of curiosity, do you wish your new MBA had a BD player? I would like to hear your input being a new 13" MBA owner. The reviews have been great so I would like to see what your thoughts are on Apple's game changing laptop not having a BD player.
I can respect that. Then can you tell me, after using your new MBA, would you consider trading it in for that faster Gateway pictured earlier? According to the critics here, you over paid and could get a faster and better machine for less. If I had not just purchased my 13"MBP 4 months earlier I would have bought the MBA instead. So perhaps you could help me out as I am considering an MBA for my next laptop.
I'd trade it for a Sony Vaio Z if I could afford one, but I essentially bought the MBA to have a lighter bag load on my back when I need my laptop and I take my motorcycle.
If you read any of my comments in the Air threads, you'd know I'm the first to say to people who claim it's underspecced for the price that "Weight and Size are a spec".
Until it drops. Then it's as "solid" as a tangled Slinky.
But you'll buy a second one. But when that one drops, you won't be buying another, much to Steve Jobs' eternal chagrin.
Not if it cost you over $20,000 to replace your hardware and all software, you wouldn't.
You wouldn't sit here and whine; you would sit here and SCREAM at the jerk refusing to give you and millions of other high-end high-ticket customers what they needed.
It will cost me $20,000 PLUS to switch platforms. You first.
It will cost me $20,000 PLUS to switch platforms. You first.
Once again, it is the businesspeople who've put BANK into Apple arguing with the iBois who think they own Apple because they have every piece of iToy available for a grand investment of $3000, if that much.
Your right. But then, I've dropped numerous other products (not Apple) and have the same thing. A tangled slinky. Electronics are made pretty tough for the most part, but you drop it enough times, something isn't going to work - Apple products or made by other companies. If I had kept all of my Walkman, Palm, Motorola items after they were dropped even once and never worked again, I would need one of those plastic storage boxes.
It will cost me $20,000 PLUS to switch platforms. You first.
Once again, it is the businesspeople who've put BANK into Apple arguing with the iBois who think they own Apple because they have every piece of iToy available for a grand investment of $3000, if that much.
I wouldn't blink if it meant a better bottom line for my business. I bought my Macs for my business. I decided to make the switch in October of 2009 (in 2007 left Windows for Linux then to Mac in 2009 - hence "linux2mac") and have spent well beyond $3000 (the Macs listed in my signature do not include my staff's Macs). Not quite $20K yet but it may get there if I decide to add a couple of Mac Pros to the list. I am testing the waters with the Mini server before nabbing a couple of Mac Pros. My Macs have already paid for themselves due to employee improved efficiency. The equipment tax breaks are just an added bonus to me.
Perhaps my industry differs from yours in that I do not require a BD player. I am sorry you feel betrayed by Apple. But from my view point, I come from a world full of over two decades of Windows let downs and I am just amazed at how well OSX and Mac hardware operates.
Aside from business, I did pick up a couple of "iGadgets" for personal use like Apple TV and iPod - I am pleased with them too.
No, it won't work, most likely because of hardware acceleration required, and in my experience the video overlay support inside a VM hasn't always been the best. I've tried it with VMWare and Parallels but not recently.
You seem to have a static view of Windows stuck in the past. It would be like someone arguing against a Mac based on OS9.
I too have switched/converted to the Mac over the past few years -- when the Intel switch happened (technically it started with a G4 mini but I went whole-hog with the Intel switch). But I still have to keep a PC around for Blu-Ray and multichannel high-res audio. I've pointed out this irony time and time again, but I need to keep a PC for multimedia that my Macs just can't handle. Who would have guessed that 5 years ago the Mac would be a general purpose machine and a PC would be the media machine?
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But OS 9 worked. Hardly going to work as a comparison to Windows <7.
After 20 years of Windows being utter garbage, people say Win 7 is wonderful. K. I'll worry about that when OSX becomes garbage. Til then, I'm fine with Apple's OSes. It's problem is just compatibility due to market share. Hence threads like this.
When I built my PC I opted not to include a Blu Ray drive because they are roughly the same price as a BD player. As far as data storage and backup, honestly I would never use it. Slow optical drive vs. the ever expanding backup drives, cloud storage and etcetera. Not saying BD is not the more economical and reliable solution, I am saying that, in being honest with myself, I would take the mild risk for the increased convenience of RAID mirrored drives and/or cloud storage.
So beyond that, it's movies, and as I've said, I just use my Blu Ray player. Granted I think Jobs is being a little silly not to implement it, and his argument is flawed. "It's going to be outdated by digital media soon" Yes, but I'm buying the computer right now. Not next year. So THIS years computer, ought to have Blu Ray, and next years computer can be digital download only.
I agree that in a few years, Desktop PC's will have to be home built or bought online, walking into most Best Buys and etc. will give you a host of only laptop PCs and, likely Tablets. Blu Ray is on it's way out at that point, in favor of digital downloads, but it will have long time support for the large amount of not-so-tech-savvy folks. However, once again, it's still twenty-frigging-ten, so there is no reason not to support 2010 standards because improvements are inevitable. In facts it's hypocritical, Apple depends on folks adopting products even when there is already news of it's next inception.
On that genteleman who thought cussing out Steve was appropriate. When you create a technological empire and your e-mail responses are often printed and what you say is front-page newsworthy, yes, you get to demand respect. Steve is commited to his customers but gains nothing from entertaining rude individuals who feel like Apple owes them anything. Apple is a company, trying to make money, by satisfying a market they think will buy their products. If you are not part of that market, then shop somewhere else, don't EXPECT Apple to change their product model to fit what you would prefer. Certainly let Apple know what changes you think are best, but that's not the way to do it AND be heard.
Airprint is still a feature, and 10 (or 11 or whatever it is) printers is better than no printers, like anything, it takes time to be 100% implemented.
So beyond that, it's movies, and as I've said, I just use my Blu Ray player. Granted I think Jobs is being a little silly not to implement it, and his argument is flawed. "It's going to be outdated by digital media soon" Yes, but I'm buying the computer right now. Not next year. So THIS years computer, ought to have Blu Ray, and next years computer can be digital download only.
I agree that in a few years, Desktop PC's will have to be home built or bought online, walking into most Best Buys and etc. will give you a host of only laptop PCs and, likely Tablets. Blu Ray is on it's way out at that point, in favor of digital downloads, but it will have long time support for the large amount of not-so-tech-savvy folks. However, once again, it's still twenty-frigging-ten, so there is no reason not to support 2010 standards because improvements are inevitable. In facts it's hypocritical, Apple depends on folks adopting products even when there is already news of it's next inception.
On that genteleman who thought cussing out Steve was appropriate. When you create a technological empire and your e-mail responses are often printed and what you say is front-page newsworthy, yes, you get to demand respect. Steve is commited to his customers but gains nothing from entertaining rude individuals who feel like Apple owes them anything. Apple is a company, trying to make money, by satisfying a market they think will buy their products. If you are not part of that market, then shop somewhere else, don't EXPECT Apple to change their product model to fit what you would prefer. Certainly let Apple know what changes you think are best, but that's not the way to do it AND be heard.
Airprint is still a feature, and 10 (or 11 or whatever it is) printers is better than no printers, like anything, it takes time to be 100% implemented.
And which industry is that?
Do you work in all of those industries and regularly tour the local shops? In my area, I actually do belong to the local ad fed. Our companies take turns hosting the monthly get togethers for discussions on various topics, mainly it's an excuse to just talk shop and drink booze.
Only one of our local firms is still all mac. They do photo illustration and print design. Others, like ours and two immediate competitors, switched production teams entirely to the PC after Apple updated the mac pro line. A few others switched before that, when mac pros continued to climb in cost without adding things like Blu support.
Perhaps they make good decorations.
That's exactly what we are using our old macs for. We have a macintosh SE sitting on a shelf as a fun conversation piece. It still boots up. Our G5s don't. One of the employees took two of the broken ones home to make a sculpture out of the frames. The old puck mice are now light up christmas ornaments.
I think from a backup perspective, cloud backups are very convenient, but for restoring any large amount of data, that could be very time consuming, depending on your connection. Most ISP downloads are much faster than uploads, so that could work.
Obviously, hard drive storage is cheap and local and if you care about your data, you have multiple drives (or a RAID solution) to have multiple/protected copies.
The optical solution is good for things that don't change, like completed Final Cut projects or music or movies (there's that DMCA concern being raised again). I've looked into putting larger-than-4Gb projects on BD, but at this time, it's not a solution that I'm using, mostly a financial decision (saving my money for a RAID solution).
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