That is sad, very sad - that you feel that way. It is a shame as many others like you feel the same way. Too bad...
D
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Steve Jobs Taking Medical Leave of Absence Until June
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
That is sad, very sad - that you feel that way. It is a shame as many others like you feel the same way. Too bad...
D
Well I'll tell you what, I'll meet you back here in June and we'll see who had common sense and who didn't. Wagering over a dying man is not in good taste or else I'd ask you to put some money where your mouth is.
Anyone who still thinks this is a "simple hormonal condition" which is what the SJ apologists were drinking up within just the last several days, is deluding themselves.
There are horses and there are zebras. When you hear hooves.....
My thoughts go out to Steve and his family.
He's going to get the best medical care on the planet, and the man is as resilient as they come. I'm hopeful that he will make a full recovery. Regardless of the outcome, I think it's a good thing that he's spending time with his family. I'm sure he's had to make a lot of sacrifices in that dimension of his life over the years and focusing on the things that truly matter in life have a way of rejuvenating us. Let's try to keep things positive.
He's going to get the best medical care on the planet, and the man is as resilient as they come. I'm hopeful that he will make a full recovery. Regardless of the outcome, I think it's a good thing that he's spending time with his family. I'm sure he's had to make a lot of sacrifices in that dimension of his life over the years and focusing on the things that truly matter in life have a way of rejuvenating us. Let's try to keep things positive.
Yeah, Steve must be doing something. I would highly doubt that he's just going to get Apple out of his mind for 6 months.
I bet that Snow Leopard will be released some time in June, since that's when Steve will be coming back. He would need to have control when it's released.
Suddenly????
No, I don't think so; no one gets that sick in a week or two. Apple has been less than forthright in coming through with information on his illness. After the worst keynote speech ever at MacWorld, now we are hit with this.
No, I don't think so; no one gets that sick in a week or two. Apple has been less than forthright in coming through with information on his illness. After the worst keynote speech ever at MacWorld, now we are hit with this.
Typical. "we love you, no wait we hate you, we'll just sue you."
They can't sue him saying he has made no efforts to ensure a future plan, he has his #2 in line and has from the beginning. That lawsuit won't fly.
I agree with this. I don't feel sorry for Apple or their products at all. They will get by just fine. But, looking at those before-and-after pictures of Steve, I really feel bad for him. He just looks so frail and sickly in them. And there were people denying that he was sick?
Yes, it's true. Many people do feel this way and many people probably do wish they had spent more time at the office perhaps creating that breakthrough product or service they never quite achieved be it an iPod, a novel, etc. No one achieves immortality for having taken great vacations.
No, I don't think so; no one gets that sick in a week or two. Apple has been less than forthright in coming through with information on his illness. After the worst keynote speech ever at MacWorld, now we are hit with this.
No, this was not a sudden thing. One week we are told one thing, the next we hear the opposite. It just doesn't add up.
Possibly just side effects
OK, I agree that the whole weight loss aspect could be due to an unfortunate cancer recurrence, however I can posit a chain of events that actually makes sense to me AND includes the "hormone" aspect from the recent email.
1) He had pancreatic cancer.
2) Standard treatment would likely include removal of part or all of the pancreas, probable removal of the gall bladder, possible removal of some small bowel, and almost certainly radiation therapy.
3) Radiation therapy can cause scarring/strictures of the small bowel and abnormal motility, in addition to decreased absorption of food. If small bowel was removed at the original surgery or subsequent surgeries, it would cause decreased absorption of nutrients.
4) The pancreas secretes enzymes that aid in digestion AND absorption-related hormones such as insulin, glucagon. Also: bicarb for neutralizing the stomach acid. Many people who have bad or removed pancreases have to take oral enzymes with meals to break down food. Diabetics have to take insulin to improve uptake of glucose.
5) Loss of gallbladder can cause mild to significant absorption problems.
Add it all up: He might well be cancer-free but suffering from nutritional problems due to his surgery and radiation therapy. I'm inclined (having worked at cancer hospitals) to cut the man some slack.
OK, I agree that the whole weight loss aspect could be due to an unfortunate cancer recurrence, however I can posit a chain of events that actually makes sense to me AND includes the "hormone" aspect from the recent email.
1) He had pancreatic cancer.
2) Standard treatment would likely include removal of part or all of the pancreas, probable removal of the gall bladder, possible removal of some small bowel, and almost certainly radiation therapy.
3) Radiation therapy can cause scarring/strictures of the small bowel and abnormal motility, in addition to decreased absorption of food. If small bowel was removed at the original surgery or subsequent surgeries, it would cause decreased absorption of nutrients.
4) The pancreas secretes enzymes that aid in digestion AND absorption-related hormones such as insulin, glucagon. Also: bicarb for neutralizing the stomach acid. Many people who have bad or removed pancreases have to take oral enzymes with meals to break down food. Diabetics have to take insulin to improve uptake of glucose.
5) Loss of gallbladder can cause mild to significant absorption problems.
Add it all up: He might well be cancer-free but suffering from nutritional problems due to his surgery and radiation therapy. I'm inclined (having worked at cancer hospitals) to cut the man some slack.
huh? How is Steve Jobs achieving immortality? By marketing a portable music device? Really?
I think this whole thing stinks and I wish Steve the best of health. But, this should have been handled better. I don't know what has been going on behind the scenes and don't think it helps to speculate.
I really hope Steve feels better, but I can't help but think we are not getting the whole truth here. And that does not help things within the company, it doesn't help Steve, and it doesn't help investors.
Yes, that is a very common event. And that's exactly why it doesn't make sense - don't you think any 2nd rate cancer center could have figured that diagnosis out in a few months at most. SJ has money to have the best care in the world, and I don't buy for one second that that sort of diagnosis would have been missed for over a year when it's so freakin obvious.
But all of this occurred in mid-2004, and treatments into 2005. That was 4-5 years ago. Your theory, however, is very well thought out. But you do work in the medical industry, and unless radiation treatments have began again, I don't see how that could affect him so far down the road if he has been stable up to the last few months. But that's something no one knows as of now.
His Whipple was back in 2004 though. If he had any malabsorptive syndrome, this would have been evident in the months post-op, not 5 years post-op.
Maybe. I'm guessing that Snow Leopard is in "cruise control" right now - they've already figured out what's going to be in it, they've likely identified all the technical risks and hurdles, and figured out staffing. Now it's just a matter of delivering on time (on time being an internal deadline, since there is no precise external deadline announced).
I'm guessing he set June so he could make WWDC. Snow Leopard will likely coincide with that timeframe as well.
Actually, on his Wikipedia article, it says he never needed chemotherapy or radiation treatments.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5G77 Safari/525.20)
He won't be back at Apple. It's been a series if slow let-downs. No new innovation in Snow Leopard, just stability and speed allowing for future development. No more MacWorld. No keynote, just a dear John letter. Now a "leave of absence". He won't return. It's a post-Steve era now. Get used to it.
He won't be back at Apple. It's been a series if slow let-downs. No new innovation in Snow Leopard, just stability and speed allowing for future development. No more MacWorld. No keynote, just a dear John letter. Now a "leave of absence". He won't return. It's a post-Steve era now. Get used to it.
Next CEO
Will I think that this will handle the question about who will be the next CEO.
Obviously, Tim Cook.
Will I think that this will handle the question about who will be the next CEO.
Obviously, Tim Cook.