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Steve Jobs Taking Medical Leave of Absence Until June
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And thats not real. If it were it would be taken down by now and they would have been sued. The picture has "steves" SS number on it.
They might be sued anyway, given Steve's most recent stance on his health in the media.
I'd like them to be for something as disgusting as this.
People are no different than computers in this respect. It's like trying to debug a system crash based only on a user's description ("well all I did was click on this button and the system panicked ..."). To figure it out you need some debug output, to look at system logs, examine a core dump file, etc.
I was looking at this: there are 2 mistakes (well, 1 affecting 2 things).
The first doctor is said to be William F Owen.
On the form it says his ZIP code is 94115.
This site (near the bottom) says that his ZIP code is 94114.
Secondly, the second doctor is said to be Assad A. Hassoun.
On the form it says that his ZIP code is 94114.
This site clearly shows that his ZIP code is 94115.
This could be a typo, but you'd think they'd want to check that.
To figure it out you need some debug output, to look at system logs, examine a core dump file, etc.
Are you saying we need a stool sample from Steve?
Are you saying we need a stool sample from Steve?
I'm sure that is involved, if not worse than that too.
has anyone see this:
http://www.macblogz.com/2009/01/17/steve-wozniak-sheds-some-light-on-steve-jobs-health-issues-video/
woz makes some good points... i think what makes steve steve is that he pushes people to there best. I think if jobs does not come back Apple will be ok, it will take time but i think people at apple will step up to the plate and still deliver top quality products.
http://www.macblogz.com/2009/01/17/steve-wozniak-sheds-some-light-on-steve-jobs-health-issues-video/
woz makes some good points... i think what makes steve steve is that he pushes people to there best. I think if jobs does not come back Apple will be ok, it will take time but i think people at apple will step up to the plate and still deliver top quality products.
To all you "Steve is entitled to his privacy" whiners who told me I was full of BS when I stated that the board had better not had misled the shareholders about SJ health status, I will point the following with a hearty "told ya so"
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50K3P220090121
This does not of course prove that there was lying going on, but I hope you cool-aid drinkers will pause and realize how foolish you are. The SEC does not invistigate such issues without reasonable suspicions.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50K3P220090121
This does not of course prove that there was lying going on, but I hope you cool-aid drinkers will pause and realize how foolish you are. The SEC does not invistigate such issues without reasonable suspicions.
As someone who is dealing with cancer in my mother, I wish Steve nothing but the best
I get the up's and down's that he probably gets with this fight.
I get the up's and down's that he probably gets with this fight.
What is going to happin if steve doesnt get better?
Will that be the end of Apple??
Apple will continue to make amazing products and might just benefit from not having to deal with his personal biases.
as much as i feel like a douche for commenting on this story, just wondered if anyone had considered the idea that apple are using this period to test the waters with alternatives to steve jobs handling all media/product announcements. after all they've seemed to have a different representative at each meeting so far this year
Part of me wants to ask "Why are we all still discussing this?" but then I remember where I am and who you all are. I don't mean that in a bad nor condescending way, but nevertheless it goes to show how much the public is tying Apple -- for good or ill -- directly to Steve.
Apple's future success lies in the fact that technology and the state of the art has advanced as much as it has. The fact that Steve has particularly good taste (in general; there are certainly exceptions) and is a "vision" guy means the entire industry, and not just the community of employees at Apple, have a better sense of how to create products which please the general public. I also think Apple has shown up enough major companies that the industry kind of "gets" the fact that pleasing the customer is not just the right thing to do, but it can be the insanely profitable thing to do.
What I mean by all of this is that I think there are enough people who've come of age in the industry during Steve's second tenure with Apple that there are likely options -- both within Apple and external to it -- for replacement which didn't necessarily exist before. So, for the sake of argument, let's give Steve's eventual replacement the benefit of the doubt and say he'll be an effective leader of Apple.
The question ultimately comes down to whether the existing Apple customer base as well as the general public does two things:
1. Gets over Steve Jobs
2. Gives the new person a chance
Sadly, I don't think these are things we can afford to just assume and expect to happen. Almost certainly when Steve leaves (in a few weeks, a few months, or several years from now) Apple's stock is going to take a hit. How much and for how long, of course, is a question nobody can know right now. But it certainly is going to happen, just as certain as I am sitting here in front of my Mac mini, typing this on my wireless Logitech keyboard.
I wish Steve all the best, and hope he is able to fully recover and return permanently to Apple. Likewise, I'd love to see this thread go away, but I don't think this sort of thread will ever entirely go away because we all know, one day sooner or later, Steve will leave Apple, and when that happens, we're going to be right back where we started in this thread, only worse because then it'll be for real, and we're all of us going to be sitting here, to one extent or another, wondering what will happen next, and whether we can truly trust the judgment of the next guy.
Which brings up another point, actually, and that is the role of the person who comes after Steve. Steve has achieved a number of very incredible things, the very least of which is turning Apple around in the financial sense. Before Steve came back, Apple was rapidly loosing relevance. They had no clear strategy or vision for the future. Their OS was seriously legacy, badly in need of an overhaul, and nobody at the top in Apple's structure had the vision or capability to drive the company in a positive direction. Before Steve, they had a confusing, complex, and aimless product line. They had no killer products, and frankly were only able to tread water simply because of the fanatical devotion of many of us long-term customers. Before Steve, Apple was a near-laughingstock of a company; with no street cred, no traction, and no leadership role in the technology industry. Steve changed all of that, and rightfully deserves an immense amount of credit for all the results he's thus far achieved.
So, short of the Second Comming himself taking over for Steve, those are some pretty big shoes to fill, and anyone who might get the job is going to be, frankly, somewhat untested, untried, and usurping the footholds of success often described as "standing on the shoulders of giants". Again, Steve deserves our gratitude and thanks, but we've elevated him to such an extent, and placed him on such a high pedestal, that (in my opinion) I don't think anyone can come close, and so everyone who could conceivably come after will seem like a let-down.
It's not fair, not to them, not to Apple, not to Steve, and not even to ourselves.
Apple's future success lies in the fact that technology and the state of the art has advanced as much as it has. The fact that Steve has particularly good taste (in general; there are certainly exceptions) and is a "vision" guy means the entire industry, and not just the community of employees at Apple, have a better sense of how to create products which please the general public. I also think Apple has shown up enough major companies that the industry kind of "gets" the fact that pleasing the customer is not just the right thing to do, but it can be the insanely profitable thing to do.
What I mean by all of this is that I think there are enough people who've come of age in the industry during Steve's second tenure with Apple that there are likely options -- both within Apple and external to it -- for replacement which didn't necessarily exist before. So, for the sake of argument, let's give Steve's eventual replacement the benefit of the doubt and say he'll be an effective leader of Apple.
The question ultimately comes down to whether the existing Apple customer base as well as the general public does two things:
1. Gets over Steve Jobs
2. Gives the new person a chance
Sadly, I don't think these are things we can afford to just assume and expect to happen. Almost certainly when Steve leaves (in a few weeks, a few months, or several years from now) Apple's stock is going to take a hit. How much and for how long, of course, is a question nobody can know right now. But it certainly is going to happen, just as certain as I am sitting here in front of my Mac mini, typing this on my wireless Logitech keyboard.
I wish Steve all the best, and hope he is able to fully recover and return permanently to Apple. Likewise, I'd love to see this thread go away, but I don't think this sort of thread will ever entirely go away because we all know, one day sooner or later, Steve will leave Apple, and when that happens, we're going to be right back where we started in this thread, only worse because then it'll be for real, and we're all of us going to be sitting here, to one extent or another, wondering what will happen next, and whether we can truly trust the judgment of the next guy.
Which brings up another point, actually, and that is the role of the person who comes after Steve. Steve has achieved a number of very incredible things, the very least of which is turning Apple around in the financial sense. Before Steve came back, Apple was rapidly loosing relevance. They had no clear strategy or vision for the future. Their OS was seriously legacy, badly in need of an overhaul, and nobody at the top in Apple's structure had the vision or capability to drive the company in a positive direction. Before Steve, they had a confusing, complex, and aimless product line. They had no killer products, and frankly were only able to tread water simply because of the fanatical devotion of many of us long-term customers. Before Steve, Apple was a near-laughingstock of a company; with no street cred, no traction, and no leadership role in the technology industry. Steve changed all of that, and rightfully deserves an immense amount of credit for all the results he's thus far achieved.
So, short of the Second Comming himself taking over for Steve, those are some pretty big shoes to fill, and anyone who might get the job is going to be, frankly, somewhat untested, untried, and usurping the footholds of success often described as "standing on the shoulders of giants". Again, Steve deserves our gratitude and thanks, but we've elevated him to such an extent, and placed him on such a high pedestal, that (in my opinion) I don't think anyone can come close, and so everyone who could conceivably come after will seem like a let-down.
It's not fair, not to them, not to Apple, not to Steve, and not even to ourselves.
What is going to happin if steve doesnt get better?
Will that be the end of Apple??
The more Apple becomes a consumer electronics company, the less interest I have in the answer to that question.